That is a legit complaint and it falls squarely on Ron Hextall. The GM said that the PK would be addressed in the offseason, but it was not.
- BiggE

I would really go big and try to get Petriangelo and Steen from STL. Petriangelo because he would be that top end guy to either pair with Provorov or go 1-2 with on different pairs.

I like Steen as a solid vet who can kill penalties but always seems to be around the puck and has kind of a calm to his game.

I know you would have to give to get but I think this team needs to start using some chip to get. the window is about to open and they need to be ready to push through.

I would really go big and try to get Petriangelo and Steen from STL. Petriangelo because he would be that top end guy to either pair with Provorov or go 1-2 with on different pairs.

I like Steen as a solid vet who can kill penalties but always seems to be around the puck and has kind of a calm to his game.

I know you would have to give to get but I think this team needs to start using some chip to get. the window is about to open and they need to be ready to push through.
- J35Bacher

Would love to see AP in orange and black!

At least they had fun.

I would really go big and try to get Petriangelo and Steen from STL. Petriangelo because he would be that top end guy to either pair with Provorov or go 1-2 with on different pairs.

I like Steen as a solid vet who can kill penalties but always seems to be around the puck and has kind of a calm to his game.

I know you would have to give to get but I think this team needs to start using some chip to get. the window is about to open and they need to be ready to push through.
- J35Bacher

I think we should really go big and go after Hedman in TB.

I would really go big and try to get Petriangelo and Steen from STL. Petriangelo because he would be that top end guy to either pair with Provorov or go 1-2 with on different pairs.

I like Steen as a solid vet who can kill penalties but always seems to be around the puck and has kind of a calm to his game.

I know you would have to give to get but I think this team needs to start using some chip to get. the window is about to open and they need to be ready to push through.
- J35Bacher

I don't think STL will trade their captain.

I think we should really go big and go after Hedman in TB.
- MJL

In a second but if ever something was not realistic or feasible it's this.

In a second but if ever something was not realistic or feasible it's this.
- opeth_pa

So really is the STL idea.

They should really shake this team up and trade Raffl for Darren Archibald and a 4th

In a second but if ever something was not realistic or feasible it's this.
- opeth_pa

That was really the point of the post. Although I think we can get them to throw in Kucherov if we sweeten the deal.

I don't think STL will trade their captain.
- dragonoffrost

You don't think you can entice them?

Captains get traded.

I don't think STL will trade their captain.
- dragonoffrost

Probably not, but it doesn't have to be AP. If Winnipeg can't get Trouba re-signed after the end of the season, he'd be a guy I'd ask about. A top pair of Provorov-Trouba would be nice both at ES and on the PK.

You don't think you can entice them?

Captains get traded.
- J35Bacher

St. Louis is in win now mode, coach and GM on the hot seat. I'm not sure what we could offer that would help them with that by taking AP away from them. Jake straight up? Does that make sense for them?

Probably not, but it doesn't have to be AP. If Winnipeg can't get Trouba re-signed after the end of the season, he'd be a guy I'd ask about. A top pair of Provorov-Trouba would be nice both at ES and on the PK.
- BiggE

I am tired of hearing "they won't do that".

I am sure there were plenty of people that said that about guys like Weber, Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk, Kessel, Phaneuf.

Yuo have to make it worth it. And if the farm has been stockpiled so much like people say then you use that. I am not saying you go just for anyone. It has to be the right one.

The window for the Flyers is about to open. I don't want to figure it out when it's open. I want to be ready to run threw it when it opens.

If it's making a play a year early for a top tier guy then I want to go that route and be ready.

St. Louis is in win now mode, coach and GM on the hot seat. I'm not sure what we could offer that would help them with that by taking AP away from them. Jake straight up? Does that make sense for them?
- ClaudeFather

I know they are win now and are not playing well at all. At some point they might try to get back some pieces they moved for O'Reilly and Schenn.

I am tired of hearing "they won't do that".

I am sure there were plenty of people that said that about guys like Weber, Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk, Kessel, Phaneuf.

Yuo have to make it worth it. And if the farm has been stockpiled so much like people say then you use that. I am not saying you go just for anyone. It has to be the right one.

The window for the Flyers is about to open. I don't want to figure it out when it's open. I want to be ready to run threw it when it opens.

If it's making a play a year early for a top tier guy then I want to go that route and be ready.
- J35Bacher

So tell me what a realistic deal the Flyers could make for either AP or Hedman is that doesn't hurt the Flyers in the end.

TK+Ghost or Sanheim+Frost+a pick ?
Patrick + Ghost or Sanheim + a pick?

I am tired of hearing "they won't do that".

I am sure there were plenty of people that said that about guys like Weber, Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk, Kessel, Phaneuf.

Yuo have to make it worth it. And if the farm has been stockpiled so much like people say then you use that. I am not saying you go just for anyone. It has to be the right one.

The window for the Flyers is about to open. I don't want to figure it out when it's open. I want to be ready to run threw it when it opens.

If it's making a play a year early for a top tier guy then I want to go that route and be ready.
- J35Bacher

It'll be a severe overpay to make the deal for AP. AP is who they are building around. That is someone calling Hextall on Provy. STL's core is Vlad, Steen, Schenn, AP, Parayko... and I know I'm forgetting at least one more. Those are the guys that they won't trade in their win now mode. The piece they need is a goalie so if you are calling them you better be bringing a good goalie to the table.

I know they are win now and are not playing well at all. At some point they might try to get back some pieces they moved for O'Reilly and Schenn.
- J35Bacher

At some point, in a tear down. That's not right now.

At some point, in a tear down. That's not right now.
- ClaudeFather

If STL goes into a tear down this fast after the Schenn and O'Rielly deals it's not just the coach's head that will roll.

So tell me what a realistic deal the Flyers could make for either AP or Hedman is that doesn't hurt the Flyers in the end.

TK+Ghost or Sanheim+Frost+a pick ?
Patrick + Ghost or Sanheim + a pick?
- opeth_pa

Why am I trying for Hedman. he is signed long term in Tampa.

I am tired of hearing "they won't do that".

I am sure there were plenty of people that said that about guys like Weber, Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk, Kessel, Phaneuf.

Yuo have to make it worth it. And if the farm has been stockpiled so much like people say then you use that. I am not saying you go just for anyone. It has to be the right one.

The window for the Flyers is about to open. I don't want to figure it out when it's open. I want to be ready to run threw it when it opens.

If it's making a play a year early for a top tier guy then I want to go that route and be ready.
- J35Bacher

Well that settles it. Since your tired of heating they won't do that, they probably will now.

If STL goes into a tear down this fast after the Schenn and O'Rielly deals it's not just the coach's head that will roll.
- dragonoffrost

Exactly, the coach and GM don't want assets they want players to help them win now. I just can't see us giving them a package that helps them do that for AP without a severe over payment.

The Flyers lost a 2-1 game in regulation? Their first regulation loss in what, 2 weeks?


ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
- BiggE

Its not the end of the world, but the same issues plague this team year after year after year. The players say the same thing and yet nothing changes.

I am not a fan of Hakstol, but the issue of not playing 60 minutes rests on the players, mainly the core, especially the captain

If we gonna make a “big move” for a dman it should be Trouba. His age fits our young core.

I know they are win now and are not playing well at all. At some point they might try to get back some pieces they moved for O'Reilly and Schenn.
- J35Bacher

That point is not now. St. Louis is not going to give up on their season in the middle of November.

Why am I trying for Hedman. he is signed long term in Tampa.
- J35Bacher

Cause if you are trying for AP with only this year an next you aren't going for the long term that bringing in Hedman is. Bringing in AP is a win now and be damned with the future move. Bringing in Hedman is a we want a long window move. And if I'm giving the assets needed to make either move I'm not doing the old Clarke/Holmgren move.