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BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 15 @ 8:40 AM ET
Is this the point where we start trading younger players/prospects for other teams veterans? I didn't think we were that dumb yet, but who knows with Dubas

Seriously though, we all remember back when the gong show started with trades for guys like Nolan, Housley, Francis, Leech...

Stay the course Dubas. If we have to trade someone (like Nylander) get back other young players and picks/prospects to replenish the cupboards. That is the only way to ensure long term success. I mean, just look at us. Talking about cap numbers already and losing players and we have won nothing! The key is to keep bringing guys through the system... not trading for vets. You can sign a few as UFAs, but for gods sake don't trade away guys like Bracco for players in the twilight of their career!

- Hockey_Reverend


don't think you have too much to worry about there... there's really nothing to indicate that Dubas is in love with older guys like a Pat Quinn used to be.

that trade proposal Keith for whoever is pretty ridiculous...

you'd have to believe that Dubas has already been presented with a bunch of teams veiled attempts at cap dumps in return for Nylander.. etc... He(Dubas) knows he needs to hit a homerun in a trade - there's way too much press out there hinting at the Hall trade as the "thing to watch out for"...

if he had a good offer for a up echelon D man he would probably made the deal already ...

its a classic game of chicken at this point... will Nylander decide he's willing sit a year and forego a year's worth of money and hockey career damage that will result (image wise) or will he not.

all the trade talk heating up will do nothing but put more pressure on Nylander (not his agent or his Dad) if he really does want to stay in Toronto..


in my opinion the only way "out of this" for Nylander at this point is to sign a cheap enough bridge deal for 2 or 3 years to allow Dubas to keep him without crunching the CAP - if he(Nylander) does this.. he sends an undeniable signal he wants to stay (which doesn't guarantee anything) and gives him a real chance at a big payday at the end of the bridge. Show me time. If he gets dealt, then he can still do the same somewhere else.

but it has to be pretty clear at this point that Dubas is willing to let him sit out ... and that Nylander isn't getting 6 or 7 years at anything close to the 8M speculated about.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 8:50 AM ET
no.. no more domis...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Weve had one and he was a fan fav during a different era.
Max has played quite well, same or close jt in points.
So whats the issue?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:03 AM ET
Man do we ever need some 7pm games in here.
- gravyface

I stayed up for the game on Tuesday and I payed for it yesterday. I’m tempted to do it again tonight.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 15 @ 9:10 AM ET
Weve had one and he was a fan fav during a different era.
Max has played quite well, same or close jt in points.
So whats the issue?

- Fakepartofme


that he's a douchebag?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:11 AM ET
I stayed up for the game on Tuesday and I payed for it yesterday. I’m tempted to do it again tonight.
- bryant

Once it was 5-1, i went to bed
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:18 AM ET
Once it was 5-1, i went to bed
- Fakepartofme

Ya I just wanted to see if kadri would get the hat trick, which turned into watching the whole game.
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:21 AM ET
Weve had one and he was a fan fav during a different era.
Max has played quite well, same or close jt in points.
So whats the issue?

- Fakepartofme


that he's a douchebag?
- plantheparade



Yes.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Nov 15 @ 9:22 AM ET
I stayed up for the game on Tuesday and I payed for it yesterday. I’m tempted to do it again tonight.
- bryant



All the cool birds are doing it.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
Nylander for Myers and Connor

who says no?

- Arctic_AARDVARK


No for me. You are doing a sideways move here. Myers is UFA and despite his "big name", he is actually a really bad DMan now.
Jeeps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: IA
Joined: 07.01.2012

Nov 15 @ 9:41 AM ET
Let him miss a year. Send a message
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
Nylander will sign an 8 year extension soon. mark my words
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
How many Sharks games have people watched? i have seen maybe 45 seconds of highlights, but I never watch full sharks games.
- senstroll


I've watched around 10-13 full games and bits and pieces of others.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
Wow what a ride those 2 posts are back to back
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:52 AM ET
Let him miss a year. Send a message
- Jeeps



The sheriff from Blazing Saddles strategy. Bold thinking!
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
don't think you have too much to worry about there... there's really nothing to indicate that Dubas is in love with older guys like a Pat Quinn used to be.

that trade proposal Keith for whoever is pretty ridiculous...

you'd have to believe that Dubas has already been presented with a bunch of teams veiled attempts at cap dumps in return for Nylander.. etc... He(Dubas) knows he needs to hit a homerun in a trade - there's way too much press out there hinting at the Hall trade as the "thing to watch out for"...

if he had a good offer for a up echelon D man he would probably made the deal already ...

its a classic game of chicken at this point... will Nylander decide he's willing sit a year and forego a year's worth of money and hockey career damage that will result (image wise) or will he not.

all the trade talk heating up will do nothing but put more pressure on Nylander (not his agent or his Dad) if he really does want to stay in Toronto..


in my opinion the only way "out of this" for Nylander at this point is to sign a cheap enough bridge deal for 2 or 3 years to allow Dubas to keep him without crunching the CAP - if he(Nylander) does this.. he sends an undeniable signal he wants to stay (which doesn't guarantee anything) and gives him a real chance at a big payday at the end of the bridge. Show me time. If he gets dealt, then he can still do the same somewhere else.

but it has to be pretty clear at this point that Dubas is willing to let him sit out ... and that Nylander isn't getting 6 or 7 years at anything close to the 8M speculated about.

- BorjeFan4Ever

If anyone would not grade UFA defensive liability Gardiner for Keith (5.5m).....
Try 1-800-giveyourheadashake
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
If anyone would not grade UFA defensive liability Gardiner for Keith (5.5m).....
Try 1-800-giveyourheadashake

- mr.sir


Duncan Keith is 35 years old and wasn't very good last season. He's slowing down rapidly.

Something about playing almost 900 games in 9 years.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
Duncan Keith is 35 years old and wasn't very good last season. He's slowing down rapidly.

Something about playing almost 900 games in 9 years.

- BINGO!

Good luck finding another top 4 Dman for that price......
I also suggested Muzzin for Gardiner
Tom Dusome
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
apparently Nylander is training in florida, Matheson is being paid the exact number the leafs want to pay Nylander. that may be a good trade.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
If anyone would not grade UFA defensive liability Gardiner for Keith (5.5m).....
Try 1-800-giveyourheadashake

- mr.sir


I wouldnt unless the hawks retained some money
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
apparently Nylander is training in florida, Matheson is being paid the exact number the leafs want to pay Nylander. that may be a good trade.
- Tom Dusome

Rather take Huberdeau 🤔

Shores up the weak left side after Marleau leaves
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
apparently Nylander is training in florida, Matheson is being paid the exact number the leafs want to pay Nylander. that may be a good trade.
- Tom Dusome



2 questions

Who?
And why?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
2 questions

Who?
And why?

- senstroll

Dman
So when Canucks come to town, we have someone to injure Pettersen
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Nov 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
apparently Nylander is training in florida, Matheson is being paid the exact number the leafs want to pay Nylander. that may be a good trade.
- Tom Dusome


No.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:27 AM ET
apparently Nylander is training in florida, Matheson is being paid the exact number the leafs want to pay Nylander. that may be a good trade.
- Tom Dusome


Matheson? That would piss off some posters on here that really want Ekblad
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 15 @ 10:28 AM ET
Good luck finding another top 4 Dman for that price......
I also suggested Muzzin for Gardiner

- mr.sir


Dougie Hamilton - ($5.75)
Jaccob Slavin - $5.3
Calvin de Haan - $4.55
Brett Pesce - $4.025
Shea Theodore - $5.2
Brady Skjei - $5.25
Colton Parayko - $5.5
Hampus Lindholm - $5.25
Gostisbehere - $4.5
Dmitry Orlov - $5.1
Brian Dumoulin - $4.1

and on and on and on....
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