8 per year is madness but that’s where the game is going and it’s going to get worse and worse....you have two good years and all of a sudden you deserve to be paid like an elite player....sadly that’s where it’s going
- RatedR80

It's about 10% of the cap right now. Roughly the equivalent of signing a $6 million per year contract in 2013.

Barzal is much better than Nylander.
Much much much better.
- plantheparade

I realize I could have been more clear, but yes, that's exactly what I wrote.

If we are talking 8 years, I'll lend Willy my pen to sign at AAV of $7 milly.

But seriously - not a franking penny over that.

Take it down to 7 years and the AAV has to come down.

Simply put: he's not that good of a player to be getting top dollars in the league.

$8 million is franking madness.
- Atomic Wedgie

"They" told us that he asked for 8 milly way back in September. I'm sure that was the starting point from his side. I'm also sure that Dubas didn't start by offering 8 years and 7 million.

Wait so he's not good enough to get paid, but he's too good to be traded for anything other than top end talent?
- BINGO!

22 year old RFA. That's how it goes in terms of getting paid.

And he's 22, so yes, he's worth top end talent.

Wait so he's not good enough to get paid, but he's too good to be traded for anything other than top end talent?
- BINGO!

Just need to find a GM stupid enough to pay him $8 million.

Forgive me for thinking that's a pretty easy task.

The media in Toronto is nuts. they seem upset when the Leafs are good. I have read articles today saying Matthews is bolting for Arizona soon and Matthews needs to be traded because JT was signed.
Jets fans don't deal with this crap.

Next lockout imminent with these nylander at 7m+ demands..

Strongly feel Nylander resigns.
- RogerRoeper

his calling is to be an actor

Just need to find a GM stupid enough to pay him $8 million.

Forgive me for thinking that's a pretty easy task.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's so easy, since every NHL GM said that they won't pay him that much.

Trust me you don’t want Ebs.....sure he will get you 20 goals but you will forget he exists at times when he is on the ice....not a player the leafs need
- RatedR80

We all kinda expected that from Eberle when he first got traded here. But he's honestly been very consistent. and He hasn't disappeared in the sense that he refuses to hit people. He's usually quite visible on the ice.

Ho-Sang is a wild card. I think Babs can help him, like he did with Kadri.
Sorokin replaces Sparks. Cause Sparks has been...well, not the best.
It would net us 4 pieces. A good goalie prospect, a decent forward, a good depth C, and a top 4 RHD.
- PatC80

Back-up goalie and depth players can be acquired for free or for cheap. They need that top pairing D to come from Nylander. Less than that is a waste of Nylander as a trade chip. If that means waiting another year or two, so be it but Nylander should be moved (as part of a package if necessary) for a #1 RHD.

Next lockout imminent with these nylander at 7m+ demands..
- plantheparade

I can't say I blame the owners.

They need a new CBA that protects themselves from...themselves.

If I was counselling the NHLPA, I'd give them the same advice I would have offered for the previous two lockouts:

Play hardball for a while, but make sure you sign a deal before you miss your first paycheque.

Don't worry - the owners will always find a way to screw themselves over, to pay you guys more money.

And one more thing:

The Leafs can afford to put in a lock-out proof payment for whatever year the CBA expires.

That's franking free money.

That needs to be factored into any negotiations.
- Atomic Wedgie

Agreed the Leafs can add some incentives that will hopefully lower the cap hit.

Back-up goalie and depth players can be acquired for free or for cheap. They need that top pairing D to come from Nylander. Less than that is a waste of Nylander as a trade chip. If that means waiting another year or two, so be it but Nylander should be moved (as part of a package if necessary) for a #1 RHD.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'd rather have Nylander sit for a year than trade him for a bagload of crap.

Take a look at Pasternak's deal.

Take a look at Johnny Hockey's deal.
- Atomic Wedgie

People thought the Bruins were crazy for giving Pastrnak that deal at the time too.


That deal was worth 8.89% of the cap when it was signed.

The equivalent of that is a $7.07 Mill deal under today's cap.

Gaudreau is even worse. His was 9.25%. That's $7.35 Mill per today.

Don't tell Tavares that!!
- Tonybere

I wont since he was 27

People thought the Bruins were crazy for giving Pastrnak that deal at the time too.


That deal was worth 8.89% of the cap when it was signed.

The equivalent of that is a $7.07 Mill deal under today's cap.

Gaudreau is even worse. His was 9.25%. That's $7.35 Mill per today.
- BINGO!

I have no issue giving Nylander 7 million per. In fact it actually comes out to less if he signs now as the season is well underway.
Pasta did have a 70 point season prior to that deal.

People thought the Bruins were crazy for giving Pastrnak that deal at the time too.


That deal was worth 8.89% of the cap when it was signed.

The equivalent of that is a $7.07 Mill deal under today's cap.

Gaudreau is even worse. His was 9.25%. That's $7.35 Mill per today.
- BINGO!

Gaudreau and Paternak are both better players than Nylander.

I have no issue giving Nylander 7 million per. In fact it actually comes out to less if he signs now as the season is well underway.
Pasta did have a 70 point season prior to that deal.
- RogerRoeper

Yep, and only 26 points the year before that. The Bruins rolled the dice on his potential with a long term deal and won big.

Question is can the Leafs actually afford to do that?

Gaudreau and Paternak are both better players than Nylander.
- Atomic Wedgie

Those are the contracts you wanted to compare. So there you go.

Why even bring them up if you don't think they're comparable?

Back-up goalie and depth players can be acquired for free or for cheap. They need that top pairing D to come from Nylander. Less than that is a waste of Nylander as a trade chip. If that means waiting another year or two, so be it but Nylander should be moved (as part of a package if necessary) for a #1 RHD.
- Unholy_Goalie

Not trying to come off as a dlck but would WN actually fetch a legit #1 Dman? I'm not trying to bash him, but unless you're a team thats overly flushed with top end dmen, I don't know if teams would do that.

I'd rather have Nylander sit for a year than trade him for a bagload of crap.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'd rather Nylander not sit a year. The Leafs don't lose his rights but missing a year is a huge step back. The NHL is the type of league where if you're not getting better, you're getting worse. A year out of action could cost the Leafs a lot of value with Nylander. He absolutely needs to be on the ice. But I agree, no way should they trade him for the sake of trading him.

Back-up goalie and depth players can be acquired for free or for cheap. They need that top pairing D to come from Nylander. Less than that is a waste of Nylander as a trade chip. If that means waiting another year or two, so be it but Nylander should be moved (as part of a package if necessary) for a #1 RHD.
- Unholy_Goalie

I thought we were trading Rielly for a top RHD and trading Nylander for a top LHD?

Make up your mind idiot!

Not trying to come off as a dlck but would WN actually fetch a legit #1 Dman? I'm not trying to bash him, but unless you're a team thats overly flushed with top end dmen, I don't know if teams would do that.
- Dedshark

Depends on the guy we're talking about. The Kings are in 31st. The Blues suck too. Carolina is very interested and they have Dougie Hamilton. Maybe the Leafs need to add to the deal to bridge the gap and they have a few prospects and draft picks they could afford to give up.

Those are the contracts you wanted to compare. So there you go.

Why even bring them up if you don't think they're comparable?
- BINGO!

They are better players, who both gave up UFA years for less money than Nylander is demanding.

Is this really such a hard concept to grasp for you?