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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 12:18 AM ET
He is the wrong lemieux.
- TheHank

I brought that up because that is another daddy issue apparently.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 15 @ 12:26 AM ET
I brought that up because that is another daddy issue apparently.
- sbroads24

I gotcha. It’s been brought up before. It seems to ring true. I was implying that if he was Mario’s kid he would have been an nhler immediately.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 12:38 AM ET
I gotcha. It’s been brought up before. It seems to ring true. I was implying that if he was Mario’s kid he would have been an nhler immediately.
- TheHank

Probably.

I am interested to see exactly how much influence these kids have from agents/parents etc. I can’t imagine someone like a 21 year old William Nylander who’s had money his entire life doesn’t want to be playing right now on a good Leafs team. Like how big could the gap possibly be between what he wants and what the Leafs are offering? 500k? 1 mil?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 12:45 AM ET
Probably.

I am interested to see exactly how much influence these kids have from agents/parents etc. I can’t imagine someone like a 21 year old William Nylander who’s had money his entire life doesn’t want to be playing right now on a good Leafs team. Like how big could the gap possibly be between what he wants and what the Leafs are offering? 500k? 1 mil?

- sbroads24


$2M+ allegedly. He wants $8M+ and the Leafs are at $6M.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 15 @ 12:49 AM ET
$2M+ allegedly. He wants $8M+ and the Leafs are at $6M.
- Wetbandit1

F the leaves
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 12:49 AM ET
$2M+ allegedly. He wants $8M+ and the Leafs are at $6M.
- Wetbandit1

Right, but I can’t imagine either side wouldn’t budge a mil. But who knows
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 12:57 AM ET
Right, but I can’t imagine either side wouldn’t budge a mil. But who knows
- sbroads24


Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. You'd think, but here we are.

Edit: I think they'll be hard pressed to afford him at $6M. Can you really be paying your 4th best forward $6M while 1-3 are ~$30M and still be a Cup contender? Better to get defensive help.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 15 @ 1:01 AM ET
Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. You'd think, but here we are.

Edit: I think they'll be hard pressed to afford him at $6M. Can you really be paying your 4th best forward $6M while 1-3 are ~$30M and still be a Cup contender? Better to get defensive help.

- Wetbandit1

Contender? I thought they already engraved it.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 1:10 AM ET
Contender? I thought they already engraved it.
- TheHank


Only on the HOF one. It's in their city why shouldn't they?

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 1:26 AM ET
Shout out to all the “know it alls” that ripped me when i said Larsson & Girgs weren’t as bad as you all were making them seem,
and that they’d be ok if just used in the correct roles on the 4th line
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 1:28 AM ET
Probably.

I am interested to see exactly how much influence these kids have from agents/parents etc. I can’t imagine someone like a 21 year old William Nylander who’s had money his entire life doesn’t want to be playing right now on a good Leafs team. Like how big could the gap possibly be between what he wants and what the Leafs are offering? 500k? 1 mil?

- sbroads24


If the reports are correct...
he’s asking for 8-8.5 and the leafs are offering around 6mil per

Even a 1mil difference over 8yrs is still pretty significant
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 15 @ 1:35 AM ET

So, not being from buffalo, what’s the deal with Lockport? I never quite follow the conversations when you guys talk about south towns or Clarence etc. mind explaining someone?

- Da_Cashman

I am from Buffalo, but as I got older, moved down into the Southtowns where I went to High School. I met only ONE person from Lockport my entire life, and the only thing I knew about Lockport was Reid's and it was on the way to my Uncle's house up in Newfane...

I moved here on a whim a handful of years ago because of cheap rent... But the cost of living is closer to Amherst than it should be...

Anyway, that ONE person from Lockport could never give a reason for having left, just that he hated it and wanted to get as far away as possible.

At first, it seems like any other suburb or "mini-city" in the area - 20,000+ people is a lot larger than the 5,000 population town I went to high school in... It looks quaint, it's not filthy, and that's about it.

I maddeningly asked an acquaintance while out one night "OH MY GOD WHY THE (frank) ARE YOU PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN SO (frank)ING WEIRD???" and he just shrugged and said "It's Lockport... you either accept it or you don't, we're all (frank)ing weirdos with weird issues."

There is a really disgusting job economy, endless job postings with not even so much as an e-mail response, and you would think it's nepotism but I know locals who can't even get into places their families work at... Jobs are SUPER locked down, mostly in the service sector, and since the DSS moved here, there's a welfare economy.

The cops supposedly start off around 40k per year but no one knows what they do because I NEVER see them pulling someone over, and hardly ever see any cops or vehicles. The occasional K-9 unit and near the cop-shop yeah, but it's baffling...

This town has a lot of closet homosexuals, a lot of white trash, a lot of governmental corruption for such a small town. Women are THIRSTY. There's a shortage of straight d!ck in this town, apparently.

The thing is, the locals worship it and everything in it; They never leave, and very few come here. When you do move here and you aren't from here, you get absolutely GLARED at every time you leave your house... as if they all non-verbally say to you "I DIDN'T GO TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH YOU!" and they GLARE. They just (frank)ing stare at you and have absolutely no manners.

There's an Italian restaurant, a pizza place or a church on every street corner and as for the aforementioned sweet sauce... Yeah, if you're (frank)ing from this town you know about it but if you aren't? Hope you like jam on your pizza.

The roads are in terrible shape - You think you've driven into Salamanca FFS, and my god.... Lockport has the WORST drivers on the planet. They have no concept of the left-lane being the fast lane on a 4-lane highway, so you're usually stuck behind 2 pace cars which are MONSTER pickup trucks (there's seriously more pickup trucks per person per square mile in this town than anywhere else on Earth, I swear) and at night, everyone drives with their brights on.

There's nowhere to go where you don't feel like you're going to get jumped at night, there's nowhere to have fires or walk through the woods (no, a poopty nature trail near the water treatment plant is not that), and it has the absolute worst dive bar in WNY - The Niagara Hotel. I won't even walk on that side of the street, it's such a poop-hole.

They usually find at least 1 body per year when they drain the canal, they act like the locks are the greatest engineering feat of all-time and they act like Buffalo is 2 hours away... "You're going all the way to BUFFALO tonight??? You're crazy man!"

They built a 30 million dollar double-rink ice hockey arena, only to have their junior team, the Lockport Express, relocate to NIAGARA FALLS 2 years later...

The good: The absolute best ice cream place on Earth - Lake Effect Ice Cream; The Palace Theater is gorgeous; Transit Drive-In; Um. That's about it.

Now all I need is a local to come in here telling me I 'don't get Lockport!"
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 15 @ 2:02 AM ET
I am from Buffalo, but as I got older, moved down into the Southtowns where I went to High School. I met only ONE person from Lockport my entire life, and the only thing I knew about Lockport was Reid's and it was on the way to my Uncle's house up in Newfane...

I moved here on a whim a handful of years ago because of cheap rent... But the cost of living is closer to Amherst than it should be...

Anyway, that ONE person from Lockport could never give a reason for having left, just that he hated it and wanted to get as far away as possible.

At first, it seems like any other suburb or "mini-city" in the area - 20,000+ people is a lot larger than the 5,000 population town I went to high school in... It looks quaint, it's not filthy, and that's about it.

I maddeningly asked an acquaintance while out one night "OH MY GOD WHY THE (frank) ARE YOU PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN SO (frank)ING WEIRD???" and he just shrugged and said "It's Lockport... you either accept it or you don't, we're all (frank)ing weirdos with weird issues."

There is a really disgusting job economy, endless job postings with not even so much as an e-mail response, and you would think it's nepotism but I know locals who can't even get into places their families work at... Jobs are SUPER locked down, mostly in the service sector, and since the DSS moved here, there's a welfare economy.

The cops supposedly start off around 40k per year but no one knows what they do because I NEVER see them pulling someone over, and hardly ever see any cops or vehicles. The occasional K-9 unit and near the cop-shop yeah, but it's baffling...

This town has a lot of closet homosexuals, a lot of white trash, a lot of governmental corruption for such a small town. Women are THIRSTY. There's a shortage of straight d!ck in this town, apparently.

The thing is, the locals worship it and everything in it; They never leave, and very few come here. When you do move here and you aren't from here, you get absolutely GLARED at every time you leave your house... as if they all non-verbally say to you "I DIDN'T GO TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH YOU!" and they GLARE. They just (frank)ing stare at you and have absolutely no manners.

There's an Italian restaurant, a pizza place or a church on every street corner and as for the aforementioned sweet sauce... Yeah, if you're (frank)ing from this town you know about it but if you aren't? Hope you like jam on your pizza.

The roads are in terrible shape - You think you've driven into Salamanca FFS, and my god.... Lockport has the WORST drivers on the planet. They have no concept of the left-lane being the fast lane on a 4-lane highway, so you're usually stuck behind 2 pace cars which are MONSTER pickup trucks (there's seriously more pickup trucks per person per square mile in this town than anywhere else on Earth, I swear) and at night, everyone drives with their brights on.

There's nowhere to go where you don't feel like you're going to get jumped at night, there's nowhere to have fires or walk through the woods (no, a poopty nature trail near the water treatment plant is not that), and it has the absolute worst dive bar in WNY - The Niagara Hotel. I won't even walk on that side of the street, it's such a poop-hole.

They usually find at least 1 body per year when they drain the canal, they act like the locks are the greatest engineering feat of all-time and they act like Buffalo is 2 hours away... "You're going all the way to BUFFALO tonight??? You're crazy man!"

They built a 30 million dollar double-rink ice hockey arena, only to have their junior team, the Lockport Express, relocate to NIAGARA FALLS 2 years later...

The good: The absolute best ice cream place on Earth - Lake Effect Ice Cream; The Palace Theater is gorgeous; Transit Drive-In; Um. That's about it.

Now all I need is a local to come in here telling me I 'don't get Lockport!"

- BeadyEyedDouche

Tell him how you really feel
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 15 @ 2:03 AM ET
Tell him how you really feel
- TheHank

Suck it, Lockport!
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 5:03 AM ET
All I got out of it is Beady is a closeted homosexual who drives at night with his brights on, and wishes he could hike in real woods.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 6:55 AM ET
Suck it, Lockport!
- BeadyEyedDouche



You left out the massive drug problem, insane crime rate, and absolute trash that is the "city" of Lockport. I know you mentioned your homophobia in some of the bars, but last time I stepped foot in Lockport it was a good idea to where a stab-proof vest if you were in any of the "Main St' bars...

*Disclaimer* The Town AKA The "country" part of Lockport is actually beautiful. But if you have children you don't want your kids in school with the "City" kids. So still advised to stay far away.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 15 @ 7:01 AM ET
Move over Fitz, Beady is back

You gotta respect them drugs
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 15 @ 7:49 AM ET
Shout out to all the “know it alls” that ripped me when i said Larsson & Girgs weren’t as bad as you all were making them seem,
and that they’d be ok if just used in the correct roles on the 4th line

- jdfitz77


I must have missed it - where is the big success? Neither one of them contribute a lick offensively and at different times they've been sitting in the stands. Larry has been a little better but there's no room for both of these guys on the team.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 15 @ 7:58 AM ET
Probably.

I am interested to see exactly how much influence these kids have from agents/parents etc. I can’t imagine someone like a 21 year old William Nylander who’s had money his entire life doesn’t want to be playing right now on a good Leafs team. Like how big could the gap possibly be between what he wants and what the Leafs are offering? 500k? 1 mil?

- sbroads24


I brought this up yesterday. The two players the Sabres/Amerks had the most issues with
Ryan O'Reilly
Cal O 'Reilly (Ruined Nylander his rookie season)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 15 @ 8:03 AM ET
the (frank) is all this
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 15 @ 8:05 AM ET
The bar is just set so low with these two

Larsson: 12 games, 0g, 2a, -3

Congrats?

- jcragcrumple

STATS!!11!1!1!

Watch the games.
KilkennyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.07.2015

Nov 15 @ 8:07 AM ET
Hitting the post, for such highly skilled players like Kuch., is not a matter of bad luck.
He wasn't able to get the shot he wanted due to the checking efforts of Gus and Larry.

I too was ready to shuffle JFL off to anywhere other than Buffalo after last season. Fans need to take the team's departing message to heart too. We need to accept that there's a break from previous seasons. They duo are more than just earning an NHL paycheck; they're helping the team win.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 15 @ 8:10 AM ET


The good: One Eyed Jack's, Shamus, Wagner's

- BeadyEyedDouche


tl;dr, fixed for you.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 15 @ 8:11 AM ET
Hitting the post, for such highly skilled players like Kuch., is not a matter of bad luck.
He wasn't able to get the shot he wanted due to the checking efforts of Gus and Larry
.

I too was ready to shuffle JFL off to anywhere other than Buffalo after last season. Fans need to take the team's departing message to heart too. We need to accept that there's a break from previous seasons. They duo are more than just earning an NHL paycheck; they're helping the team win.

- KilkennyDan


His shots were not high danger opportunities, as he was being held outside the dots. They've been defensively respectable. I don't like either of them, but I'm calling it as it is.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 15 @ 8:14 AM ET
I don’t know anything about the restaurants but I can tell you the hospital in Lockport is second rate.

It’s pretty driving into Town from the east though - big old houses near a damn nice looking golf course.

- Der Kaiser

lockport country club


I worked there before I moved to Florida

very fast greens, and keep the ball below the hole at all times
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