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CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
Id dont really call the Drive In area lockport really....
- hubie



Agree. I also don't consider people like Angler, "Lockport folk" as he is old time LP(by the way he speaks). But the new breed there of drug addicts and trash bags have ruined that area for most of the WNY community. I would honestly walk through the Falls or down Broadway rather than through the city of LP.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
This is an article about them. I have a dissenting opinion that I want to express.

I could offer a treatise on living on the west side instead, if you'd prefer

- jcragcrumple


Honestly, yes. I would prefer this at this point.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
"The average point production for a fourth liner in the NHL is somewhere around 18-20 points over a 82 game season. Some will have more goals than others, but they typically end up around that mark. Some higher-end fourth liners excel beyond that, but then you could argue that they really should be a third-liner instead of toiling away on the fourth line, like a Brian Boyle."

https://www.google.com/am...ater-analysis-fourth-line

Larsson on pace for 13

Averaging 14:35 - 3rd line minutes

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/larssjo02.html

- jcragcrumple


More talking about your claim that all 4th lines don’t get scored on & “tilt the ice”
which is what our 4th line has been doing

Also...
5-7pts less is not a big deal to me whatsoever
And 1 or 2 hot games can change that projection quite a bit
We are only 20% through the season
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:49 AM ET


I cannot breathe. I am laughing uncontrollably.

- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Lockport has the Lockport outdoors store.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
This is an article about them. I have a dissenting opinion that I want to express.

I could offer a treatise on living on the west side instead, if you'd prefer

- jcragcrumple


I live in the west side
Near Resurgence & Gypsy Parlor
It’s nicer than its rep from back in the day
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
I live in the west side
Near Resurgence & Gypsy Parlor
It’s nicer than its rep from back in the day

- jdfitz77



How far back are we talking? Cause "back in the day" the Westside was run by the Italians. But yes, the west side is much nicer now than 10 years ago.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
More talking about your claim that all 4th lines don’t get scored on & “tilt the ice”
which is what our 4th line has been doing

Also...
5-7pts less is not a big deal to me whatsoever

And 1 or 2 hot games can change that projection quite a bit
We are only 20% through the season

- jdfitz77


It's 35% under what a "good" 4th liner is expected to get. It's time to raise expectations
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
Agree. I also don't consider people like Angler, "Lockport folk" as he is old time LP(by the way he speaks). But the new breed there of drug addicts and trash bags have ruined that area for most of the WNY community. I would honestly walk through the Falls or down Broadway rather than through the city of LP.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I agree, seems like in the last 10 years all the decent people moved out and the rift raf moved in . Like the falls trash just moved over
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
How far back are we talking? Cause "back in the day" the Westside was run by the Italians. But yes, the west side is much nicer now than 10 years ago.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


My husbands parents both grew up on the west side (both come from VERY Italian families). I hear stories about how that area was back when they were growing up all the time.

It's nice to see it making a bit of a come back, but there's still a LOT of work to do.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Lockport has the Lockport outdoors store.
- SABRES 89



Lockport is like Martin Luther King Blvd at the end of the strip.... but more heroin and less meth.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
I live in the west side
Near Resurgence & Gypsy Parlor
It’s nicer than its rep from back in the day

- jdfitz77


I'm over by the Richardson/Olmsted complex. Potomac/Richmond.

My neighbor has had 2 packages stolen off our porch in the past 2 days. Tis the season
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
My husbands parents both grew up on the west side (both come from VERY Italian families). I hear stories about how that area was back when they were growing up all the time.

It's nice to see it making a bit of a come back, but there's still a LOT of work to do.

- HonkFortheGoose



Im friends with a few Tomasulas, my buddys grandfather ran a lot of the poker games back then. I love listening to their stories of how it used to be. I wish i lived in that era when the Italians had control.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
I'm over by the Richardson/Olmsted complex. Potomac/Richmond.

My neighbor has had 2 packages stolen off our porch in the past 2 days. Tis the season

- jcragcrumple



Why are you stealing your neighbors packages? Shouldn't they be on his Porch?

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Why are you stealing your neighbors packages? Shouldn't they be on his Porch?


- gordong


I guess his porch and his neighbors are one in the same porch.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Why are you stealing your neighbors packages? Shouldn't they be on his Porch?


- gordong


Lol, no it's my downstairs neighbor. It's a house with apartments. I'm upstairs
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
Im friends with a few Tomasulas, my buddys grandfather ran a lot of the poker games back then. I love listening to their stories of how it used to be. I wish i lived in that era when the Italians had control.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


The interesting thing that I learned was that when his Grandparents were about our age, the Italians were heavily discriminated against and his grandfather had trouble finding a job but the Irish didn't. Even though he was Italian, he had red hair, so he went by the name of Patrick (real name was Pasquale) and had no trouble because people just assumed he was Irish.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
Lol, no it's my downstairs neighbor. It's a house with apartments. I'm upstairs
- jcragcrumple


Yell out the window hey you down there dont steal that package
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
I'm over by the Richardson/Olmsted complex. Potomac/Richmond.

My neighbor has had 2 packages stolen off our porch in the past 2 days. Tis the season

- jcragcrumple


I lived on Potomac for about a year and a half. Between Richmond and Baynes.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
The interesting thing that I learned was that when his Grandparents were about our age, the Italians were heavily discriminated against and his grandfather had trouble finding a job but the Irish didn't. Even though he was Italian, he had red hair, so he went by the name of Patrick (real name was Pasquale) and had no trouble because people just assumed he was Irish.
- HonkFortheGoose



That's a hate crime he should of went to the news.






SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Nov 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
[quote=jcragcrumple]"The average point production for a fourth liner in the NHL is somewhere around 18-20 points over a 82 game season. Some will have more goals than others, but they typically end up around that mark. Some higher-end fourth liners excel beyond that, but then you could argue that they really should be a third-liner instead of toiling away on the fourth line, like a Brian Boyle."

https://www.google.com/am...ater-analysis-fourth-line

Larsson on pace for 13

What if he gets a point next game, making it 3/13 or on pace for 19? Is he a valuable enough 4 liner then? That's why going game by game is just dumb, especially for guys who if they score a point will wildly fluctuate their ppg, meaning there isn't a bunch of statistical data points yet. What if he has a 2 point game soon, then is he a way above average 4th liner? He is excelling at the part of his job that is required most by the team. Points will come, they do for all NHL players, even the John Scott's.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
I lived on Potomac for about a year and a half. Between Richmond and Baynes.
- HonkFortheGoose


Weird small Buffalo thing

Yup, that's where I am
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
Lockport has the Lockport outdoors store.
- SABRES 89


And ironically, Jamestown Mattress.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
It's 35% under what a "good" 4th liner is expected to get. It's time to raise expectations
- jcragcrumple


5pts difference is 1 point every 16 games
We’ll survive

You’ve reached Sbroads level hate here

That line has been playing well all year
U can continue to say it hasn’t,
but u just aren’t gonna find anyone to back u up
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
i know it wasnt a huge hit here but i shut down the nhl lottery simulator finally

thanks to anyone who ever used it or talked about it. the response was a highlight of my life for sure.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
I'm over by the Richardson/Olmsted complex. Potomac/Richmond.

My neighbor has had 2 packages stolen off our porch in the past 2 days. Tis the season

- jcragcrumple


That sucks
A$$holes everywhere though
I usually get stuff delivered out to my parents place in the burbs bc i live in an old church and there’s no doorbell
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