Why are you guys going after Bingo?

He's been a valuable contributor here for a long time.
- StLBravesFan

I find. Bingo excellent and if. Scmaltz had half the piss and vinegar of his many distractors, he would be going in the corners. I'm putting faith in JC to decide on him by deadline. He has that knack with kids. I'm very impressed with. JC

Agree with you he is not trolling . I like hearing other points of view. Others should be welcome
- HamiltonHawk

Yeah Bingo is okay. Sometimes he just needs someone to talk with. One Carolina fan is sick today and the other had to go to work.

Yeah Bingo is okay. Sometimes he just needs someone to talk with. One Carolina fan is sick today and the other had to go to work.
- 67hawks

Thanks everybody.

I don't mean to drag conversations back to Carolina talk, it's just that I can see the parallels between Schmaltz and TT and think the Hawks should be careful not to repeat their mistake.

Can we all discuss the big elephant in the room now? What happened to Q? No interview or anything with him yet?? Just disappeared into the wind...
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Check a Binny's store.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...jc-selection-camp-roster/

Beaudin, Mitchell and Entwhistle all projected to be at Canada's U20 World Junior Camp. I can't remember the last time the Hawks had ONE prospect on this roster....That Beadins well for the future see what I did there?? LOL

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...jc-selection-camp-roster/

Beaudin, Mitchell and Entwhistle all projected to be at Canada's U20 World Junior Camp. I can't remember the last time the Hawks had ONE prospect on this roster....That Beadins well for the future see what I did there?? LOL
- EnzoD

He's a beauty!

My concern with Schmaltz on a line with Kane is that if Schmaltz misses a pass to Kane you know Kane will be in his ear about getting him the puck. Kane plays like a C in the o-zone. He needs the puck.

I'd like to see:

Schmaltz Toews Kahun
Dcat Anisimov Kane
Saad Kampf Hayden
Martinsen Johnson/Kruger Fortin

Wouldn't mind Sikura up for turn either. Bump Hayden to 4th line with Martinsen and Kruger/Johnson. Maybe put Sikura up with Toews and Schmaltz.

This team really needs is a solid sized sniper to play in the Top 6. Sure those aren't hard to find. Wonder if the Jets would loan us Partik Laine for the next 5 years



- bhawks2241

Lmao that would be pretty sweet if we could swing that from them lol I agree though, it's becoming more apparent that Schmaltz needs to play away from Kane to develop his game because when they're together he's always looking to get him the puck instead of making the right play. I'm open to whatever works to get this team back to being a consistent Playoff team. Gotta think at some point Sikura is gonna get the call and get some big minutes to provide a jump

I think everyone is misinterpreting BINGO's posts as trolling.

BINGO has been a regular contributor on the Hawks blog, providing insight to ex-Hawks (now on Carolina) and general hockey knowledge/discussion.

I believe his post about TT was meant to draw comparisons to Schmaltz - particularly to the folks who are calling for Schmaltz to be traded.

I think his point is that a lot of guys don't think Schmaltz has value, but he may in fact have value (like TT adds to the Canes).

Now, the only place I disagree is that I think value can be affected by playing styles, team schemes, etc.

To explain:

For TT, the front office did not do him favors by billing him as the next coming of Kane. Kane is a prodigy and that's impossible for any young player to live up to, and when he couldn't, fans didn't understand why.

The other thing that led to TT's lack of success in Chicago was that he played a one-dimensional game, choosing to focus on offense almost-exclusively.

Him going to Carolina (small market) took him out of the Chicago microscope and allowed him an environment where he didn't have to be a two-way player and could focus on offense - thus releasing his talents.
- Hank3Henshaw

THIS

He's a beauty!
- DarthKane

To you or any others...who is the last Hawks player/prospect to play for Canada at the World Junior Championship???? It CAN'T be Toews...can it??!?!?

In one of your earlier posts you pondered what factors may have helped Teravainen grow into the player he is now in Carolina versus what he was in Chicago. A few factors come to mind (some mentioned already in other posts): playing with fellow Finn in Aho who is fierce as a smallish forward and who exudes offensive talent, playing in a new system that allows him to be an offensive contributor amongst many rather than an all-world offensive dynamo, and playing on a team with Brind'Amour as an assistant and now head coach.

As a workout freak himself, Brind'Amour had an impact on his workout regimen. Could be wrong but I believe Aho had a role as well in Teravainen's off-season training, maybe even sharing the same Finnish trainer.

Agree that just because players don't publicly share their off-season training via social media or news articles like Kane doesn't mean they don't have one. Or just because there are more pictures of Toews on vacation than of him working out doesn't mean he's a slouch. Maybe he just likes to post fun pictures and keep his exercise private.

Not saying you're the one who said this because I know you didn't, I don't think it's a fair statement to say that Schmaltz isn't working on building up his strength. I remember reading articles this summer where Schmaltz did say strength training was something he was focusing on. He's never going to be a hulk like Martinsen due to his body type so he just needs to focus on the right amount of muscle so that he doesn't become so lumbering it slows him down.

Earlier in his career Seabrook used to do a lot of power exercises for his legs but it made him slower so he cut back. Brendan Shanahan did the same. I recall an article many years ago (during his prime years) where Shanahan said his legs became thick as trees but his offense and agility suffered.

One factor that is exacerbating this debate about Schmaltz is the fear of him signing a long-term deal with high AAV (i.e. $6MM or more) when most would feel comfortable with a 2-3 year bridge deal worth south of $4MM. I prefer the latter so he can continue to develop under Colliton and prove his worth.

If Schmaltz was already under contract with a bridge deal, say at $3.5MM, I feel there would be less complaining about him. There would still be criticism about what he needs to work on but possibly less talk about getting rid of him or calling him completely worthless.

As others have stated, Schmaltz has a ton of skill and is young so it would suck to give up on him so quickly. Yes he has rough edges but they can get smoothed out under the right coaching and development staff on top of his own personal workout regimen.

Agree, see my previous statement above.
- AEL_Fox

Exactly, I think people fail to realize that just because someone plays well for another team that they could do the same if they stayed with the team. See Kempny as a prime example of that. Or better yet, see the list of players who left for big contracts after our cup wins and never lived up to their deals.

It was someone who made a comment about his lack of commitment to train and what not that caught me off guard cuz as far as I've seen I haven't seen anyone really question his desire to train or how to train and get better. I think his issue has been confidence. Always playing in fear of Q demoting him for making a bad play or benching him. Now under JC he can play more freely and hopefully grow more as player. How his contract situation plays out we'll see. Gonna depend on how he plays the next few months.

Thanks everybody.

I don't mean to drag conversations back to Carolina talk, it's just that I can see the parallels between Schmaltz and TT and think the Hawks should be careful not to repeat their mistake.
- BINGO!

It's a valid point that needs to be made to everyone who wants to trade him before he fully develops into the player he's gonna be. He's already a very solid middle six guy, now he needs to start making steps to becoming a legit top six player

who gives a (frank)?
- GPHawksfan

Exactly what I said.

Exactly, I think people fail to realize that just because someone plays well for another team that they could do the same if they stayed with the team. See Kempny as a prime example of that. Or better yet, see the list of players who left for big contracts after our cup wins and never lived up to their deals.

It was someone who made a comment about his lack of commitment to train and what not that caught me off guard cuz as far as I've seen I haven't seen anyone really question his desire to train or how to train and get better. I think his issue has been confidence. Always playing in fear of Q demoting him for making a bad play or benching him. Now under JC he can play more freely and hopefully grow more as player. How his contract situation plays out we'll see. Gonna depend on how he plays the next few months.
- Savetheembers33

While on the topic, I will say that Aho and Brind'amour didn't have much to do with the workout regime. Teuvo hired a Finnish bodybuilder to help him bulk up. I think that extra strength has gone a long way in his confidence and getting into the dirty areas of the ice.

Aho is an obvious influence on him, though.

To you or any others...who is the last Hawks player/prospect to play for Canada at the World Junior Championship???? It CAN'T be Toews...can it??!?!?
- EnzoD

I think Danault and McNeill in 2013.

Yeah Bingo is okay. Sometimes he just needs someone to talk with. One Carolina fan is sick today and the other had to go to work.
- 67hawks

Ya Bingo ok far from a troll WTH the more the merrier

I think Danault and McNeill in 2013.
- breadbag

Thank you! On another note...Eric Haula looks to have blown out his knee for Vegas and is now month to month. With Stasny out....Vegas is VERY thin at center. If anyone watched the Vegas game last night, they looked like last year's team and blew out the Ducks. McPhee has clearly gone "all-in" again this year trading a TOP prospect in Suzuki for Paccioretty, in addition to signing Stasny. I'd like Stan to give George a call to see if they'd want Anisimov for 3C.......Hawks would be vastly improved if they signed the DUO of NYI power forwards in Brock Nelson for 2C and Anders Lee for top 6 power winger

Thanks everybody.

I don't mean to drag conversations back to Carolina talk, it's just that I can see the parallels between Schmaltz and TT and think the Hawks should be careful not to repeat their mistake.
- BINGO!

Bingo you are always welcomed here. Just leave that Canes talk at the door. Lol.. Bingo is a Good fella, he's one of us!

I think Danault and McNeill in 2013.
- breadbag

I think the other player we had between Toews and those guys was Dylan Olsen.

While on the topic, I will say that Aho and Brind'amour didn't have much to do with the workout regime. Teuvo hired a Finnish bodybuilder to help him bulk up. I think that extra strength has gone a long way in his confidence and getting into the dirty areas of the ice.

Aho is an obvious influence on him, though.
- BINGO!

I wasn't even aware that he had done that, but it was good that he did. He probably heard a lot of the criticism for not being a strong player and took it upon himself to make that adjust himself after being traded and not expecting it to happen. Playing with a special player like Aho, who is also a fellow Finn, I'm sure is helping him even more. Some guys just flourish under the right circumstances. It didn't have for him, but I'm glad he's living up to his potential. God I wish we had him still on this team to have some more depth though lol

And very few people want to hear one poster complain incessantly about another poster when you can simply scroll past it. Carolina is basically Chicago East. They have a high proportion of former players. TT has been compared numerous times on this board to Schmaltz for a variety of reasons. BINGO is simply providing additional context to the conversation.

You literally can just scroll right past the comment when you see his avatar.
- Chunk

Maybe practice what you preach?

Maybe practice what you preach?
- GPHawksfan

TOUCHE!

Thanks everybody.

I don't mean to drag conversations back to Carolina talk, it's just that I can see the parallels between Schmaltz and TT and think the Hawks should be careful not to repeat their mistake.
- BINGO!

What would give off the Carolina roster for smaltz? Just for discussion sake not saying it would happen.

What would give off the Carolina roster for smaltz? Just for discussion sake not saying it would happen.
- Scott1977

Schmaltz for Slavin !

Schmaltz for Slavin !
- EnzoD

Maybe swap one of our defensive prospects for one of the many Center prospects they have as well? D and "C" for D and C?

Ya Bingo ok far from a troll WTH the more the merrier
- oldduffman

How do make a room full of old ladies all say "aww F#@k" at the same time?


Yell BINGO!

sorry BINGO but I think its just the old ladies in the room that do not like you