Jeremy Whites super secret person said that Skinner wants 8 years $9-$9.5m per. Thoughts?

I think thats too much, but i really want him on this team. I trust Botts to get that to a more friendly number as Skinners number is a “starting” point for negotiation.
- Lilroot9

I'd probably do it at 8x8.5-9

It just makes purging Okposo and Bogo more important

I still think it'll end up being 8 years by 7.5-8

I'd probably do it at 8x8.5-9

It just makes purging Okposo and Bogo more important

I still think it'll end up being 8 years by 7.5-8
- jcragcrumple

This cap world makes it so you can lock up four or five players long term and still be a championship team.

Eichel is one.
Dahlin will have to be another.
With a deal like that, you are making Skinner your 3rd.
Okposo is fourth unless you can trade him.
Ristolainen is here for 3 more years at $5.4 million, unless you can trade him.

Ristolainen might have to be moved as well.

Jeremy Whites super secret person said that Skinner wants 8 years $9-$9.5m per. Thoughts?

I think thats too much, but i really want him on this team. I trust Botts to get that to a more friendly number as Skinners number is a “starting” point for negotiation.
- Lilroot9

Is that secret guy ever right ?

If this is true, give him whatever he wants. He's worth it.

This cap world makes it so you can lock up four or five players long term and still be a championship team.

Eichel is one.
Dahlin will have to be another.
With a deal like that, you are making Skinner your 3rd.
Okposo is fourth unless you can trade him.
Ristolainen is here for 3 more years at $5.4 million, unless you can trade him.

Ristolainen might have to be moved as well.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, 55 might have to go eventually, but I think 4, 6 and 21 are first on the chopping block for me. Maybe Bogo is moveable for the last year of his deal.

Okposo is the one I want gone badly. Idk, we'll see. It seems overly cautious to not sign Skinner because of other contracts though. He's the best goal scoring winger since prime Vanek was entering his 7x7 deal 10 years ago

Yeah, 55 might have to go eventually, but I think 4, 6 and 21 are first on the chopping block for me. Maybe Bogo is moveable for the last year of his deal.

Okposo is the one I want gone badly. Idk, we'll see. It seems overly cautious to not sign Skinner because of other contracts though. He's the best goal scoring winger since prime Vanek was entering his 7x7 deal 10 years ago
- jcragcrumple

You can survive next year giving Skinner that deal and keeping everybody. It's the years going forward when guys like Mittelstadt and Dahlin will be up for their first deals when it becomes a problem.

You can survive next year giving Skinner that deal and keeping everybody. It's the years going forward when guys like Mittelstadt and Dahlin will be up for their first deals when it becomes a problem.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, we're not adding $8m+ to our existing cap, we're adding his raise to the cap. So somewhere between 2-4 mil more to what we have now

I think this is too strong a response. You negotiate.

You’ll tell me the Blackhawks prove avteam cant pay that much money to a few elite players. And I point out that had 3 cup wins.
- Der Kaiser

I mean if we can get it more reasonable absolutely......but if he won’t come off that number, we can’t do that imho.

Jeremy Whites super secret person said that Skinner wants 8 years $9-$9.5m per. Thoughts?

I think thats too much, but i really want him on this team. I trust Botts to get that to a more friendly number as Skinners number is a “starting” point for negotiation.
- Lilroot9

I would do 4 or 5 years for 9 Mill, or 8 for 7.50 mil. I think that gets it done.

I mean if we can get it more reasonable absolutely......but if he won’t come off that number, we can’t do that imho.
- gordong

Moulson goes, Pomminville's contract gets far more reasonable, Bogo is only a year away. As others have said we're already covering close to $6Mill on Skinner's contract, and we only need to find the raise money, not the whole contract.

Replacing Skinner with anybody that is anywhere hear his level of talent is going to cost at least $6Mill. So take somebody you know has the MOJO with Jack and make hay

I would do 4 or 5 years for 9 Mill, or 8 for 7.50 mil. I think that gets it done.
- hehateme[/

Him and his agent laugh at that

5 years @ $9 million is $45 million
8 years @ $7.5 is $60 million

He would get 7 years @ $9 million-$10 million on the open market ($63-$70 million)

8 years @$8.5 or $8.75 is where they'll meet around $68-$70 million

Moulson goes, Pomminville's contract gets far more reasonable, Bogo is only a year away. As others have said we're already covering close to $6Mill on Skinner's contract, and we only need to find the raise money, not the whole contract.

Replacing Skinner with anybody that is anywhere hear his level of talent is going to cost at least $6Mill. So take somebody you know has the MOJO with Jack and make hay
- Der Kaiser

You can easily make this work, especially with Casey's number not being great this season since this is technically year 2 of his deal. Say he puts up 60-70 points next year you can bridge him for a 3 year deal again and by that time Okposo's contract is gone as well.

Moulson, Pommer, and Bogo's deal would be gone.

Signing Skinner between $8 and $9 million is completely doable

Moulson goes, Pomminville's contract gets far more reasonable, Bogo is only a year away. As others have said we're already covering close to $6Mill on Skinner's contract, and we only need to find the raise money, not the whole contract.

Replacing Skinner with anybody that is anywhere hear his level of talent is going to cost at least $6Mill. So take somebody you know has the MOJO with Jack and make hay
- Der Kaiser

And if Mitts and Dahlin work out (like we hope)???? how do you pay 4 guys top coin and still have enough for all the rest? I don't know (don't get me wrong I want him here ) just not sure we can afford it. Luckily it not my problem if botts can make it work... fine whatever, but we all know if we do it and he starts to fall off its going to be a poop show around here... And are we setting ourselves up for failure because this is a contract year? We've been burned on that before.. Stafford had a fantastic contract year...

Him and his agent laugh at that

5 years @ $9 million is $45 million
8 years @ $7.5 is $60 million

He would get 7 years @ $9 million-$10 million on the open market ($63-$70 million)

8 years @$8.5 or $8.75 is where they'll meet around $68-$70 million
- Stripes77

I could live with that, but I think the Sabres may do better

Two years ago:

Okposo: 7 years, $6m

Last year

Kane: 7x7

I say 8x7.5-7.75

WE can sign
EVERYONE
HERES my
CAP FRIENDLY

BOOM

I could live with that, but I think the Sabres may do better

Two years ago:

Okposo: 7 years, $6m

Last year

Kane: 7x7

I say 8x7.5-7.75
- jcragcrumple

Skinner is tied for 2nd in the league in goals

Kane and Okposo was nowhere near that

Skinner is over a point per game so far

Even when his cools off he will still finish over 70 points

Neither of those two players are in that ball park

WE can sign
EVERYONE
HERES my
CAP FRIENDLY

BOOM
- sbroads24

C

You should do you.

Skinner is tied for 2nd in the league in goals

Kane and Okposo was nowhere near that

Skinner is over a point per game so far

Even when his cools off he will still finish over 70 points

Neither of those two players are in that ball park
- Stripes77

The body of work, excluding this year, makes it a strong comparable between the 3

The Sabres aren't going to pay the full value of the "Eichel bump" imo. They'll pay him a nice raise on his career average of 50 or so points, a la Kane. I just don't see a deal north of 8 mil based on a 20 game sample size when there's 8 years of previous data. We shall see though

The body of work, excluding this year, makes it a strong comparable between the 3

The Sabres aren't going to pay the full value of the "Eichel bump" imo. They'll pay him a nice raise on his career average of 50 or so points, a la Kane. I just don't see a deal north of 8 mil based on a 20 game sample size when there's 8 years of previous data. We shall see though
- jcragcrumple

Kane hit 50 points once in his career

Skinner has done it 4 times and has 2 60 point seasons and is well on his way to a 3rd

Kane scored 30 goals once in his career, Skinner has done it 3 times and is on his way for a 4th time and will most likely end up over 40.

Okposo has never scored 30 but has 4 60 point seasons (playing with Tavares) but he was a free agent.

Again giving Skinner only a half a million more doesn't seem enough

Is that secret guy ever right ?

If this is true, give him whatever he wants. He's worth it.
- kritter65

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- sbroads24

It's amazing what happens when you protect your franchise QB!

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Kane hit 50 points once in his career

Skinner has done it 4 times and has 2 60 point seasons and is well on his way to a 3rd

Kane scored 30 goals once in his career, Skinner has done it 3 times and is on his way for a 4th time and will most likely end up over 40.

Okposo has never scored 30 but has 4 60 point seasons (playing with Tavares) but he was a free agent.

Again giving Skinner only a half a million more doesn't seem enough
- Stripes77

I think it gets done at 8 x 8.5, I say it stays under 9 mil...

Kane hit 50 points once in his career

Skinner has done it 4 times and has 2 60 point seasons and is well on his way to a 3rd

Kane scored 30 goals once in his career, Skinner has done it 3 times and is on his way for a 4th time and will most likely end up over 40.

Okposo has never scored 30 but has 4 60 point seasons (playing with Tavares) but he was a free agent.

Again giving Skinner only a half a million more doesn't seem enough
- Stripes77

Kane: 369p in 595gp = .62 PPG

Skinner: 400 in 599 = .66 PPG

Kane- 7x7

Skinner- 8x7.5-7.75

Idk, that's the way I see it

I think it gets done at 8 x 8.5, I say it stays under 9 mil...
- hehateme

I think somewhere between $8.5-$9 per year is where they end up.

If GMJB gets it under $8.5 I would call that a huge win for him.

If that’s true, you trade him at the deadline for a non-protected 1st... that gives you maybe 4 first round picks this year. And a chance at a top ten.
- gordong

I disagree with the direct trade, but I dont want to spend that much on him. If he was a center, maybe. But not a winger.

I doubt you could trade him for a non-protected first that would not be a guaranteed playoff team.

Is that secret guy ever right ?

If this is true, give him whatever he wants. He's worth it.
- kritter65

From what I know, he is close to spot on pretty much every time. Now this one is weird cause let's say Skinner signs for $8.5-8.75, is this super secret guy wrong, that Skinners ask was $9+?