I would say we would definitely get more value trading Skinner at the deadline than what we gave up to get him. At minimum there would be a 1st in the deal as well as another pick and prospect. That being said, I doubt we trade him unless they know that he won't resign here.

Also, if they do agree on a new contract, I don't think it would be signed until after the trade deadline.

Eks idea of Skinner plus prospects for Nylander is laughable. If anything I would say it would need to be Nylander + for Skinner. It would be interesting to see if adding one Nylander could have a positive impact on another Nylander.

If somehow we are out of the playoff picture at the deadline, I would not be opposed to trading Skinner for the best package available and then signing him in the offseason.
- adambuffalo

The leafs trading their most valuable trade chip for a forward is in itself ridiculous. Gardiner for Skinner + would have been peak Eklund, though

What would you do:

Sabres are 3rd in the East come the deadline

Skinner says he wants to go to UFA

The offers for him are all futures

Do you trade him or chance him walking?

What would you do:

Sabres are 3rd in the East come the deadline

Skinner says he wants to go to UFA

The offers for him are all futures

Do you trade him or chance him walking?
- RhinoFan

trade him for futures and then trade those future for someone with term. This was a transition year to begin with, can't let assets go for nothing.

What would you do:

Sabres are 3rd in the East come the deadline

Skinner says he wants to go to UFA

The offers for him are all futures

Do you trade him or chance him walking?
- RhinoFan

Ask Jack what he thinks we should do.

trade him for futures and then trade those future for someone with term. This was a transition year to begin with, can't let assets go for nothing.
- Sabresfan-365

I was thinking take the money and run. Can't argue with reinvesting if that's the case.

Was wondering if there would be an array of opinions.

Ask Casey Nelson what he thinks we should do.
- adambuffalo

FTFY

I was thinking take the money and run. Can't argue with reinvesting if that's the case.

Was wondering if there would be an array of opinions.
- RhinoFan

The cup window isn't open yet. You keep him without a contract, you may sneak in and go out in the first round but your best case after that is having to sign him to a deal you probably didn't want to. That usually doesn't bode well long term.

If you dealt him before the deadline you'd probably have 4 first round picks to work with. you could deal a couple to add player(s) with term and still have two 1st rounders on draft day.

What would you do:

Sabres are 3rd in the East come the deadline

Skinner says he wants to go to UFA

The offers for him are all futures

Do you trade him or chance him walking?
- RhinoFan

The only way I'd trade him is for at least 1 roster player, or a player that is tearing up the AHL + +. It sends a terrible message to the team to tear it apart when they're playing well imo.

Boston treated Eriksson as an "own rental" in the last year of his deal when they went to the playoffs. There is precedent for it

If he walked, we would have lost a 2nd 3rd, and Pu. Not worried about that. Playoffs and success are worth more than another late 1st

The cup window isn't open yet. You keep him without a contract, you may sneak in and go out in the first round but your best case after that is having to sign him to a deal you probably didn't want to. That usually doesn't bode well long term.

If you dealt him before the deadline you'd probably have 4 first round picks to work with. you could deal a couple to add player(s) with term and still have two 1st rounders on draft day.
- Sabresfan-365

Totally agree. I am hoping that Botts doesn't feel obligated to shell out for him because he's been so good with Jack. Nice to know we have an escape plan that could work.

The only way I'd trade him is for at least 1 roster player, or a player that is tearing up the AHL + +. It sends a terrible message to the team to tear it apart when they're playing well imo.

Boston treated Eriksson as an "own rental" in the last year of his deal when they went to the playoffs. There is precedent for it

If he walked, we would have lost a 2nd 3rd, and Pu. Not worried about that. Playoffs and success are worth more than another late 1st
- jcragcrumple

Was hoping for one contrarian lol.

You'd accept the loss of the parts for the sake of seeing some more competitive hockey. Interesting. I showed my hand, so say I would disagree. I like that he's important enough to warrant pause though.

What if you could add a top6 LW for a lesser amount than Skinner's TDL return. Would you ship him out and replace or do you think the "bond" with Jack is just too good to mess with?

Totally agree. I am hoping that Botts doesn't feel obligated to shell out for him because he's been so good with Jack. Nice to know we have an escape plan that could work.
- RhinoFan

yeah, I think he's hedged his bet pretty well here (botts). Getting Skinner for peanuts helps avoid the sunk cost fallacy feeling.

Was hoping for one contrarian lol.

You'd accept the loss of the parts for the sake of seeing some more competitive hockey. Interesting. I showed my hand, so say I would disagree. I like that he's important enough to warrant pause though.

What if you could add a top6 LW for a lesser amount than Skinner's TDL return. Would you ship him out and replace or do you think the "bond" with Jack is just too good to mess with?
- RhinoFan

I'm just not worried about what we gave up, or recouping it. If they're solidly in the playoff picture, you keep your team imo. I'm sure the Sabres have offers for Pominville too. Just cuz a guy is a UFA doesn't mean you have to trade him.

I don't see this being a problem though. Skinner re-signs once the 8th year is available. 8x7.75

Why would the Sabres want another nylander?

Why would two rivals trade, when they are 1 point apart in the playoff race?

What would you do:

Sabres are 3rd in the East come the deadline

Skinner says he wants to go to UFA

The offers for him are all futures

Do you trade him or chance him walking?
- RhinoFan

Good hypothetical, but Skinner will be signed by then.

Sincerely,

Me

I'm just not worried about what we gave up, or recouping it. If they're solidly in the playoff picture, you keep your team imo. I'm sure the Sabres have offers for Pominville too. Just cuz a guy is a UFA doesn't mean you have to trade him.

I don't see this being a problem though. Skinner re-signs once the 8th year is available. 8x7.75
- jcragcrumple

If he does walk it's kind of one step forward, two steps back.

Good hypothetical, but Skinner will be signed by then.

Sincerely,

Me
- sbroads24

I suspect he'll re-sign as well but it is worth exploring.

If he does walk it's kind of one step forward, two steps back.
- Sabresfan-365

I'd take the playoff step forward, and worry about addressing the vacancy through trade or Nylander/Olofsson. It's only a step back if they made it this year, and sucked next year imo

I'd take the playoff step forward, and worry about addressing the vacancy through trade or Nylander/Olofsson. It's only a step back if they made it this year, and sucked next year imo
- jcragcrumple

Agreed, which would be likely if you couldn't find someone to replace skinner. Bit easier to do with extra assets rather than bet on Nylander/olofsson or trading roster players.

Agreed, which would be likely if you couldn't find someone to replace skinner. Bit easier to do with extra assets rather than bet on Nylander/olofsson or trading roster players.
- Sabresfan-365

We have plenty of assets already. If Skinner doesn't want to sign, I'd take the playoff run with him and go hard after Stone in FA. Replace LW with Nylander/Olofsson

Simmonds and Eberle as plan C

We have plenty of assets already. If Skinner doesn't want to sign, I'd take the playoff run with him and go hard after Stone in FA. Replace LW with Nylander/Olofsson

Simmonds and Eberle as plan C
- jcragcrumple

Other than the draft picks, this is news to me. Any major trade involving actual player would more or less sink our prospect pool. Betting on FA replacements or two rookies isnt the way to build the team, once it's already built to contend then maybe.

Let's face it, what you call run, I call first round exit. If this was meant to be the start of our cup window I'd be all for it.

I'm just not worried about what we gave up, or recouping it. If they're solidly in the playoff picture, you keep your team imo. I'm sure the Sabres have offers for Pominville too. Just cuz a guy is a UFA doesn't mean you have to trade him.

I don't see this being a problem though. Skinner re-signs once the 8th year is available. 8x7.75
- jcragcrumple

With guys like Pommer I completely get it. He's meshed well with Jack. His return doesn't surpass his utility. Skinner would just get a pretty penny back I'd imagine, so it's more of a temptation. I understand the position though, I don't agree, but you aren't wrong if that's understandable.

We have plenty of assets already. If Skinner doesn't want to sign, I'd take the playoff run with him and go hard after Stone in FA. Replace LW with Nylander/Olofsson

Simmonds and Eberle as plan C
- jcragcrumple

The Skinner talk doesn’t need to exist.

Trust me, he’s staying.

My dude is never wrong

Good hypothetical, but Skinner will be signed by then.

Sincerely,

Me
- sbroads24

I would have preferred "Love broads"

But you're probably right.

Other than the draft picks, this is news to me. Any major trade involving actual player would more or less sink our prospect pool. Betting on FA replacements or two rookies isnt the way to build the team, once it's already built to contend then maybe.

Let's face it, what you call run, I call first round exit. If this was meant to be the start of our cup window I'd be all for it.
- Sabresfan-365

I asked the question because I think there's a case to be made either way fwiw. Still think getting what we can at the TDL would be prudent unless a deal was in place. At the same point, there is some value to making the playoffs, giving the fans some fun and giving Eichel the winger he deserves for at least one full year.

The Skinner talk doesn’t need to exist.

Trust me, he’s staying.

My dude is never wrong
- sbroads24

I feel better knowing now.

This is fun.