So stupid. Listen, I LOVE the Packers. LOVE THEM! I HATE the Queens. Guess what? If MN drafted me, I'd done the purple and gold and play my heart out for them. To say that Skinner, who has reportedly said he's seeking 9+mill would sign with TML for 6-7 because he "likes" them is absurd. This site is becoming more entertainment than anything. Drop me your PayPal link. The TDL has to be worth $100's

I heard to they were going to throw in Eichel and hold his salary. I know Pot is legal now in Canada but maybe they should still drug test. Just so they know who is not to get them in any kind of trouble.

How exactly are the Leafs in salary cap hell right now?

They have what, 30 million dollars free next year? Yes, they need to sign Marner, Matthews, Nylander and blah blah blah but they are just fine right now.

Not that I want or think any of this will happen but what if they up and traded Matthews, Marner, or Nylander before signing them to new deals? Who says they don't trade Kadri, or Reilly, or someone else to relieve cap space?

I do think they will be hard pressed to fit all of these guys in under the cap, but that's next year, not this year.
- Kinger34

don’t feed the trolls

Your best defenseman?
- Good On Paper

your best actually. ours is Rielly.

don’t feed the trolls
- Skalapy

snap all their (frank)ing pencil necks

The Maple Leafs of course are in salary cap hell right now

What b.s. They have the 3rd lowest payroll on the cap right now with Horton NOT placed on LTIR. If he did, they would be #1.

Yeah, they will eat up a lot of cap soon, but that doesn't mean they are in "Cap Hell". That's ridiculous.

The Leafs will never trade Nylander for a UFA and some prospects. Forget it.

Your best defenseman?
- Good On Paper

You mean the guy that is a Norris contender right now?

If the Coyotes offer max contract and seeing how that team's budget is set up , it wil bel Austin and a bunch of league minimum scrubs .
- Alexzanki

These Coyotee fantasy offer sheet scenarios are ridiculous. Arizona loses 30 million+ per year. How will they afford the biggest contract in history?

Yeah, your posting history this past summer proves otherwise.

How are you and Glak doing with your insistence that the Flyers were as much a contender as Toronto? How about the Flyers have as good a forward group as Toronto?

... you guys sure went silent. Reminds me of a couple fans from that other Ontario team who also had a helluva lot to say one summer.
- Aetherial

That's HB for ya....

How about this, you find any post over the past offseason with me stating the Flyers are a contender I will delete my account, but if I find a post of me clearly stating the Flyers are NOT contenders then you delete yours.

Deal? If you are going to flip words around to act sassy, you better have the source to back it up.

Did I say the Flyers forward group is just as deep, if not deeper than Toronto...hell yeah I did. Do I still believe they are a deep froward group, I do. Ohhh Toronto is winning so that means the forward group is deeper, maybe it just means Toronto is a better TEAM.

It’s The internet smart guy. When you try and be sarcastic it makes that person look like a fool. LOL

Leaf fans have been miserable since 1967. They think they are high and mighty now cause they got Tavares. I wouldn’t be surprised if they still lose the next 10 years. Carry on little guy.
- KINGS67

Leafs fans all high and mighty.

Numerous fans of other teams in here telling us how bad our cap situation is, how screwed we are going forward, etc.

Get (frank)ed.

don’t feed the trolls
- Skalapy

I know, my mistake.

That question was actually directed at EK.

Again, my bad.

I heard to they were going to throw in Eichel and hold his salary. I know Pot is legal now in Canada but maybe they should still drug test. Just so they know who is not to get them in any kind of trouble.
- richc111

Yes, Canada made up this rumor.

So the Leafs are going to retain most of their homegrown talent (Matthews, Marner, Reilly, Kadri) AND sign John Tavares & Jeff Skinner for bigtime UFA dollars?

They can't make that work. Marner wants $10 million per and Matthews will command more than JT.

Maybe Skinner bolts from Buffalo at the end of this season, but I don't see how Toronto is the landing spot even if Nylander is dealt for assets.

That's HB for ya....

How about this, you find any post over the past offseason with me stating the Flyers are a contender I will delete my account, but if I find a post of me clearly stating the Flyers are NOT contenders then you delete yours.

Deal? If you are going to flip words around to act sassy, you better have the source to back it up.

Did I say the Flyers forward group is just as deep, if not deeper than Toronto...hell yeah I did. Do I still believe they are a deep froward group, I do. Ohhh Toronto is winning so that means the forward group is deeper, maybe it just means Toronto is a better TEAM.


- Glak18

LOL no, because, I heard 2 things from Flyers fans this summer, and 2 people primarily posting them... so it is entirely possible that you were never a part of the "contender" discussion. In fact, I know that WarAmps was the one who was pretty clear that because the leafs had not won an opening round the last couple years they could not contend.

While I get where he is coming from (and feel similarly myself) I think there is a pretty big non sequitur in that argument.

You do however own that post about the Flyers forward depth, AND you were the one talking about how the Leafs forward depth was not all it was cracked up to be once you get outside the top-6... which is a mind-boggling position to have taken.

Now, are you going to tell us you never said anything disparaging to the Leafs or never compared to the Flyers to the Leafs in any way favoring the Flyers?

So the Leafs are going to retain most of their homegrown talent (Matthews, Marner, Reilly, Kadri) AND sign John Tavares & Jeff Skinner for bigtime UFA dollars?

They can't make that work. Marner wants $10 million per and Matthews will command more than JT.

Maybe Skinner bolts from Buffalo at the end of this season, but I don't see how Toronto is the landing spot even if Nylander is dealt for assets.
- Losman

The whole idea is ludicrous.

So the Leafs are going to retain most of their homegrown talent (Matthews, Marner, Reilly, Kadri) AND sign John Tavares & Jeff Skinner for bigtime UFA dollars?

They can't make that work. Marner wants $10 million per and Matthews will command more than JT.

Maybe Skinner bolts from Buffalo at the end of this season, but I don't see how Toronto is the landing spot even if Nylander is dealt for assets.
- Losman

It gets even more complicated when we sign Karlsson.

So the Leafs are going to retain most of their homegrown talent (Matthews, Marner, Reilly, Kadri) AND sign John Tavares & Jeff Skinner for bigtime UFA dollars?

They can't make that work. Marner wants $10 million per and Matthews will command more than JT.

Maybe Skinner bolts from Buffalo at the end of this season, but I don't see how Toronto is the landing spot even if Nylander is dealt for assets.
- Losman

What would they even do with skinner? Adding more to the forward group would be silly at this point.

LOL no, because, I heard 2 things from Flyers fans this summer, and 2 people primarily posting them... so it is entirely possible that you were never a part of the "contender" discussion. In fact, I know that WarAmps was the one who was pretty clear that because the leafs had not won an opening round the last couple years they could not contend.

While I get where he is coming from (and feel similarly myself) I think there is a pretty big non sequitur in that argument.

You do however own that post about the Flyers forward depth, AND you were the one talking about how the Leafs forward depth was not all it was cracked up to be once you get outside the top-6... which is a mind-boggling position to have taken.

Now, are you going to tell us you never said anything disparaging to the Leafs or never compared to the Flyers to the Leafs in any way favoring the Flyers?
- Aetherial

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

Good Lord

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

What about the fact they have TAvares/Matthews/Kadri as their top 3 centres?

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

Are you joking? The only position the flyers are better at is first line centre (assuming Giroux is considered centre not wing. If wing same situation) and that's actually arguable too. The next 2 centers the leafs are better by miles and at wing it's not remotely close either.

The leafs forwards are better than the flyers by a wide wide margin.

Well I have explicitly said numerous times the Flyers were far from a contender, I mean they couldn't even get out of the first round in the last few years.

Again are the Flyers forwards comparable to Toronto, absolutely. On paper the Flyers have a better top 9 no question. Now if the Flyers showed up every night, had the work ethic of the Leafs under Babcock then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Why are the Leafs better...goaltending and Babcock. There it is.
- Glak18

You wanna rethink your statements? Our third line is making pylons of your team right now.