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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
The pressers would be a lot more entertaining
- BiggE

Yes, Yes they would be. I still miss his interviews...
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
Yep. If you make a legit threat to one's safety in real life and know where to find that person, you can and will be banned.
- jmatchett383


Wow I had no idea. Took long enough for him to get banned.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
I would be a little worried if I was an Ottawa Senator at this point.

You’d think these guys come out balls on fire for the next one.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yes, permaban
- jmatchett383

I've heard he is rumored to be a Flyers GM
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
I dunno..I take Stamkos and Barkov well before Coots.
I would say to me Coots is 100% a top 20 center. Hell if you are honest about your list you have 12 players listed with Stamkos not being one of them.

- opeth_pa


(Whispers that possibly due to injury, Stamkos isn't the player he used to be)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
Wow I had no idea. Took long enough for him to get banned.
- ajw12


You can get small vacations for a lot of things. But making threats to people's personal safety and making 9/11 jokes will get you a lifetime vacation.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
WTF is happening.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'd be okay with an interim coach, tbh.
- jmatchett383


Wheres that one guy on the lower level who cleans the seats ? He will do for a hc for now. The popcorn guys on the 1st tier can be the assist coaches. I don't care anymore. I want them gone now!!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
I'd be okay with an interim coach, tbh.
- jmatchett383


It can still happen.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
When you pile it all up.

-Hartnell traded for an already bad Umberger

-Del Zotto signed and replaced Timonen

-Dave Hakstol without pro coaching experience anywhere, hired, and coached Brett Hextall

-I can already feel the hatred but trading Brayden Schenn for two firsts and Lehtera. Lehtera is a serious anchor. Fast forward to a year later, he signs JvR to a bigger deal, he’s older and in my experience Schenn is better offensively, can play all three positions and more physical.

-Our team is softer since Hextall has come in. We aren’t faster. A decision on Simmonds hasn’t been made.

- SuperSchennBros


I would also add that lucking into Patrick makes the draft crops look much better then they might actually be...there are good players, but you don't know how much of that is the staff doing there job vs Hexy getting the credit...

Ticket sales are down, they can't give away tickets, Sixers are doing better (they just tanked better), STH are not renewing...this is bad GM work and it was having a financial cost...hell, imagine the thought of Gritty under Ed's ownership...not ever...this is just a move to try and sell tickets...the product on the ice is not doing that and the GM has to go for not putting a team on the ice that can compete every night...

and to agree with you..we will most likely be the losers of the B Schenn deal...maybe long term it might help, but like you have always said, this team got worse when he left...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Wheres that one guy on the lower level who cleans the seats ? He will do for a hc for now. The popcorn guys on the 1st tier can be the assist coaches. I don't care anymore. I want them gone now!!
- jmdodgeser4


Why's it gotta be the lower level seat cleaner? Give a chance to the guys in the nosebleeds.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Someone one mentioned it but could there have been a disconnect between hackstoll and Hextall? Maybe Hackstol wanted to push this thing forward. Waive guys like Weise and Lehtara but Hextall said no, let our guys in the AHL?

Maybe he asked for a reliable goalie and Hextall said no, we are waiting on Hart.

All any of us can do is speculate.

As good as Hextall did for the Flyers he also wasn't immune to some glaring issues.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
WTF is happening.
- Tomahawk


Peanuts Unleased.

In my view, a necessary evil.

A bit on edge about what happens next.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
should i tune into wip? or will it still be eagles talk all day bc of their win against a pathetic giants team yesterday?
- hammarby31


occasional flyers call but still mostly eagles
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Hakstol

“We haven’t had poor starts outside of the Buffalo/Toronto game”.

Lol
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Someone one mentioned it but could there have been a disconnect between hackstoll and Hextall? Maybe Hackstol wanted to push this thing forward. Waive guys like Weise and Lehtara but Hextall said no, let our guys in the AHL?

Maybe he asked for a reliable goalie and Hextall said no, we are waiting on Hart.

All any of us can do is speculate.

As good as Hextall did for the Flyers he also wasn't immune to some glaring issues.

- J35Bacher



This actually makes more sense. Especially in light of Hak still being here.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Lol Hakstol just spoke to media and said we haven’t been that bad outside of the Toronto and Buffalo games and that slow /complacent starts to games is not a trend of ours. Good (frank)ing bye
- arichardson22

Seriously? Wow. I guess he doesn't watch the same games I do...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Peanuts Unleased.

In my view, a necessary evil.

A bit on edge about what happens next.

- flyer_nutter


The worst thing to say right now is be patient, but I got nothing else.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
No, but they aren’t going to force a new GM to keep a HC.
- flyer_nutter


No, I don't think so either but I don't see it as "Ron, we want you to fire the coach". Hextall says no. So they fire Hextall and keep the coach.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
When you pile it all up.

-Hartnell traded for an already bad Umberger

-Del Zotto signed and replaced Timonen

-Dave Hakstol without pro coaching experience anywhere, hired, and coached Brett Hextall

-I can already feel the hatred but trading Brayden Schenn for two firsts and Lehtera. Lehtera is a serious anchor. Fast forward to a year later, he signs JvR to a bigger deal, he’s older and in my experience Schenn is better offensively, can play all three positions and more physical.

-Our team is softer since Hextall has come in. We aren’t faster. A decision on Simmonds hasn’t been made.

- SuperSchennBros

The decision on Simmonds is a big one. The rest are water under the bridge so not as interesting to me to hash out in retrospect. I’m very interested in what happens with Wayne.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
I would also add that lucking into Patrick makes the draft crops look much better then they might actually be...there are good players, but you don't know how much of that is the staff doing there job vs Hexy getting the credit...

Ticket sales are down, they can't give away tickets, Sixers are doing better (they just tanked better), STH are not renewing...this is bad GM work and it was having a financial cost...hell, imagine the thought of Gritty under Ed's ownership...not ever...this is just a move to try and sell tickets...the product on the ice is not doing that and the GM has to go for not putting a team on the ice that can compete every night...

and to agree with you..we will most likely be the losers of the B Schenn deal...maybe long term it might help, but like you have always said, this team got worse when he left...

- JW98FlyerFan


Who has said otherwise???
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
No, I don't think so either but I don't see it as "Ron, we want you to fire the coach". Hextall says no. So they fire Hextall and keep the coach.
- MJL


I could have seen it as multiple conversations going back before this season and Hextall having refused.

Lack of overall improvement and poof. I do think if he fires Hak before this season, or even a couple weeks ago he is still here.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Why's it gotta be the lower level seat cleaner? Give a chance to the guys in the nosebleeds.
- jmatchett383


I don't know, maybe we can promote them both and alternate the days they coach until a suitable replacement can be found. I hear the person in the cote suite making the popcorn is looking for a promotion.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Someone one mentioned it but could there have been a disconnect between hackstoll and Hextall? Maybe Hackstol wanted to push this thing forward. Waive guys like Weise and Lehtara but Hextall said no, let our guys in the AHL?

Maybe he asked for a reliable goalie and Hextall said no, we are waiting on Hart.

All any of us can do is speculate.

As good as Hextall did for the Flyers he also wasn't immune to some glaring issues.

- J35Bacher

LOL you think the guy playing Weise on the 2nd line isn't part of the problem?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
No, I don't think so either but I don't see it as "Ron, we want you to fire the coach". Hextall says no. So they fire Hextall and keep the coach.
- MJL


Hextall got fired for EVERYTHING, not just the coaching staff. The questioning of having the right players and moves, lack thereof, to improve the team as well.
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