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Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Nov 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
Insanity. For all of my drum beating about firing folks I never thought they’d actually can Ron so fast.

They must have approached him multiple times in the past about some kind of changes.

- flyer_nutter

Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Bye, Ron.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
I still can't believe they poopcanned Hextall.
- johndewar


who knows what's been going on behind the scenes. i wonder if this came from ownership of from holmger. maybe both, and maybe they've put more onus on hextall for the goaltending being a disaster, which he could have addressed, than any other issue, fair or not. that's not on the coach.

i just figured he'd get a longer leash with all of the assets he's stockpiled, and gotten them out of cap hell. he should have canned hakstol after the end of last season.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 26 @ 11:20 AM ET
But it makes perfect sense to have the new GM hire his coach.
- bodiva88

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 26 @ 11:20 AM ET
This move has gritty written all over it
- funmaster18


Gritty in as GM? Or at least 3C?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
But it makes perfect sense to have the new GM hire his coach.
- bodiva88


I have no idea what this came down to, but it just screams that Hextall didn’t want Hak to be let go, and dug his heels in. This decision didn’t happen overnight.

They fired him for his loyalty. I never thought it was happen so fast.

I think management was in line with a rebuild of sorts but not addressing the goalies probably put a big X on his back also.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
But it makes perfect sense to have the new GM hire his coach.
- bodiva88


and he will. thank god.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
I’m shocked.

Honestly, I’m ok with holding Hexy accountable because not fixing the goalie situation last summer has pretty much ruined this season.

On the other hand, I do NOT want to see them going away from the draft and develop philosophy that Hextall brought in. Only way to go in the salary cap era.

Not getting rid of Neuvy and bringing a capable 1B or backup to go with Elliot was fatal.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
maybe ownership really wanted hak canned and hextall just wouldn't (frank)ing do it, so they canned him first. can't dump everyone at once. that's probably what's going on here.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
maybe ownership really wanted hak canned and hextall just wouldn't (frank)ing do it, so they canned him first. can't dump everyone at once. that's probably what's going on here.
- hammarby31

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
For anyone who wanted to keep Hextall, the Hak hate club still has room.

It’s sad, funny, etc that this moron of a HC cost Hextall his job in a way.
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Nov 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
Hexy gone and Hak still has a job?WTF are these clowns doing?.There becoming the damn leafs of 2004-2015.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Ron, fire Hak.
Ron: No.
Brass: Bye, Ron.

- Flyskippy


For the life of me, unless there is more to it than this that we don't know about, this was the dumbest hill ever to die on.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
Gritty in as GM? Or at least 3C?
- jmatchett383


3C Player/coach/GM. He does it all
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
either way, i'm just glad SOMETHING has gone on. finally. it's way past due.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
For the life of me, unless there is more to it than this that we don't know about, this was the dumbest hill ever to die on.
- johndewar

That could have been the last hill, after Lappy Hill and Get a Better Goalie for 2018-19 Hill.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
Isn't Dean Lombardi still hanging around?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
Would anybody be against Yzerman if that's who they targeted?

I think you can find a guy that isn't going to put you in cap hell and can still build you a farm system and competitive team

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
For the life of me, unless there is more to it than this that we don't know about, this was the dumbest hill ever to die on.
- johndewar


I liked Hakstol more than most but I would've fired that entire staff before I took that walk
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
For the life of me, unless there is more to it than this that we don't know about, this was the dumbest hill ever to die on.
- johndewar


Being a martyr for Dave Hakstol.

Still can’t believe it. Holy poop guys. I wanted Hak out but they dropped the full nuke.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
3C Player/coach/GM. He does it all
- funmaster18


gritty can get bent.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
gritty can get bent.
- hammarby31

cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Nov 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
I’m shocked.

Honestly, I’m ok with holding Hexy accountable because not fixing the goalie situation last summer has pretty much ruined this season.

On the other hand, I do NOT want to see them going away from the draft and develop philosophy that Hextall brought in. Only way to go in the salary cap era.

Not getting rid of Neuvy and bringing a capable 1B or backup to go with Elliot was fatal.

- Marc D


I think we have made tremendous progress in the system under Hexy. Top 5 farm system. I hope that we do not go back to the old days of selling the farm for aging veterans. I would hope we could find a happy balance in there. Let a couple of prospects go for help at NHL level.

I definitely think Hexy dug his heels in over firing Hak and/or his staff. Remember, he pulled Hak from one of the top college jobs in the country. I think he wanted him to fulfill the contract length at least. Hak is next. Big trade right after.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
Would anybody be against Yzerman if that's who they targeted?

I think you can find a guy that isn't going to put you in cap hell and can still build you a farm system and competitive team

- J35Bacher


I would love to have Yzerman but I highly doubt he's coming here to be GM when he just resigned to be closer with his family
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
is it possible the new GM doesn't clean house? is it?
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