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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 9:57 AM ET
No.
The cap is a real thing.
Its a concern, but not completely doom and gloom.

- Fakepartofme


Of course it's a concern, but it is annoying that if Kapanen has a big night I have to hear he is leaving, and no one says a peep is Laine gets 5 goals about the Jets cap.

Tampa and Winnipeg have as much if not more cap concerns than us.

The actual play on the ice is not discussed enough.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Dec 1 @ 9:57 AM ET
Well no
He hasnt signed, so if he sits, we'll have daily trade proposals to non playoff teams

- Fakepartofme

Not for Nylander though. Make him sit and get someone else with his cap space.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Dec 1 @ 9:58 AM ET
Minimum bridge deal i think.
- Garnie

Even a 1 year, just get him on the ice.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 1 @ 9:59 AM ET
No.
The cap is a real thing.
Its a concern, but not completely doom and gloom.

- Fakepartofme

Only reason it's an issue is because Edmonton went and (frank)ed it with the McDavid draisaitl contracts. Mackenzie was on yesterday saying Marner wants 5 years at around 10m. If true these guys want Ufa money right out of entry level and a term that takes them right to Ufa years so they can cash in again even highee. Trying to hit a home run right off the bat.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Not for Nylander though. Make him sit and get someone else with his cap space.
- Drapz


They simply have to go out and get an addition this year. Despite all the hype about the cap, they have the 3rd most cap room in the entire NHl this year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Of course it's a concern, but it is annoying that if Kapanen has a big night I have to hear he is leaving, and no one says a peep is Laine gets 5 goals about the Jets cap.

Tampa and Winnipeg have as much if not more cap concerns than us.

The actual play on the ice is not discussed enough.

- RogerRoeper

Sn radio was discussing the jets possible cap issues Thursday.
But you have to remember, jets cap issues....no one gives a sh!t about outside of winterpeg.
The leafs are national news, everything is amplified. Part of being a fan of a team in the 5th largest market in NA.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Not for Nylander though. Make him sit and get someone else with his cap space.
- Drapz

Sitting him waste an asset.
Trade him.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
No.
The cap is a real thing.
Its a concern, but not completely doom and gloom.

- Fakepartofme


It doesn't help the Leafs current situation, but for the next CBA - I am fairly confident that the current loophole - where an RFA coming off an entry level deal is not eligible for arbitration in the first year only, will be eliminatied.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
Only reason it's an issue is because Edmonton went and (frank)ed it with the McDavid draisaitl contracts. Mackenzie was on yesterday saying Marner wants 5 years at around 10m. If true these guys want Ufa money right out of entry level and a term that takes them right to Ufa years so they can cash in again even highee. Trying to hit a home run right off the bat.
- HealthyScratch6


The rich teams will start to get real pissed about this. The cap is not high enough with this massive change in RFAs' contracts.

They did this "Hard Cap" system to help the poorer teams, and then those teams turn around and give their players ridiculous deals (Florida giving Ekblad 7.5 million is another great example.) with the $ they get in revenue sharing and hurt everyone else.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:02 AM ET
Of course it's a concern, but it is annoying that if Kapanen has a big night I have to hear he is leaving, and no one says a peep is Laine gets 5 goals about the Jets cap.

Tampa and Winnipeg have as much if not more cap concerns than us.

The actual play on the ice is not discussed enough.

- RogerRoeper

Winterpeg 12 free agents next year and $20m in cap space.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 1 @ 10:02 AM ET
Sitting him waste an asset.
Trade him.

- Fakepartofme

Would you rather trade him for pennies on the dollar because I your backs against the wall or have him sign next year and have the player for the he next 6 years?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 1 @ 10:04 AM ET
Sitting him waste an asset.
Trade him.

- Fakepartofme

Too late to trade him.

New team would have 7 hours to sign him.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 10:05 AM ET
The rich teams will start to get real pissed about this. The cap is not high enough with this massive change in RFAs' contracts.

They did this "Hard Cap" system to help the poorer teams, and then those teams turn around and give their players ridiculous deals (Florida giving Ekblad 7.5 million is another great example.) with the $ they get in revenue sharing and hurt everyone else.

- RogerRoeper


The Hard Cap sucks, especially for the Leafs.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:06 AM ET
Not for Nylander though. Make him sit and get someone else with his cap space.
- Drapz

It's all going to work out...you'll see.

William Andrew Michael Junior Nylander Altelius

Isn't that precious?

Wonder if he would have signed already if his name was simply Bob or Joe?
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
The Hard Cap sucks, especially for the Leafs.
- winsix

Chiarelli single handedly (frank)ed the whole cap system for teams. Also ruined the market for defenseman.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
Winterpeg 12 free agents next year and $20m in cap space.
- Drapz


Yeah but no one bothers Jets fans about this.
And Trouba also wants out.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:08 AM ET
Chiarelli single handedly (frank)ed the whole cap system for teams. Also ruined the market for defenseman.
- HealthyScratch6


Not sure anyone would ever repeat that Larsson for Hall type deal, but he just handed-over massive deals for no reason. And to be fair, Edmonton was doing this before he got there. Why did RNH get 6 million per so fast?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 10:08 AM ET
Too late to trade him.

New team would have 7 hours to sign him.

- Atomic Wedgie


I agree, unless there is a deal in place. Leafs have far less to lose if Nylander sits. The way they destroyed San Jose this week. That first unit power play (which Nylander would not likely be in anyways) - Wow!
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:09 AM ET
Too late to trade him.

New team would have 7 hours to sign him.

- Atomic Wedgie


The issue with trading him, is you would trade him for the sake of it. Do you really want Montour or Sanheim as the centrepiece and then see Willy become PPG next year?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 10:13 AM ET
It's all going to work out...you'll see.

William Andrew Michael Junior Nylander Altelius

Isn't that precious?

Wonder if he would have signed already if his name was simply Bob or Joe?

- Woderwick


Nylander simply used a flaw in the CBA where there is no arbitration for a player coming off an entry level contract. The JT signing has everything to do with this. He is no longer in the long range plan. Kapanen's emergence also hurts Nylander's long term plans to be a Leaf. He knows, he's going to be traded, he doesn't want to sign a sh!t deal only to go to some sh!thole franchise.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:14 AM ET
I agree, unless there is a deal in place. Leafs have far less to lose if Nylander sits. The way they destroyed San Jose this week. That first unit power play (which Nylander would not likely be in anyways) - Wow!
- winsix

I say Willy plays first PP for a whole bunch of reasons. Summarized - he's really good.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 1 @ 10:15 AM ET
The issue with trading him, is you would trade him for the sake of it. Do you really want Montour or Sanheim as the centrepiece and then see Willy become PPG next year?
- RogerRoeper

I’m really thinking he plays in the KHL this year.

I hope I am wrong.

It’s hard to stay rational about this - my emotions tell me that the Leafs haven’t been this close in 50 years, and this selfish little wiener can’t see that.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:16 AM ET
I’m really thinking he plays in the KHL this year.

I hope I am wrong.

It’s hard to stay rational about this - my emotions tell me that the Leafs haven’t been this close in 50 years, and this selfish little wiener can’t see that.

- Atomic Wedgie


I would not feel comfortable playing in the KHL, but that's just me.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:18 AM ET
Nylander simply used a flaw in the CBA where there is no arbitration for a player coming off an entry level contract. The JT signing has everything to do with this. He is no longer in the long range plan. Kapanen's emergence also hurts Nylander's long term plans to be a Leaf. He knows, he's going to be traded, he doesn't want to sign a sh!t deal only to go to some sh!thole franchise.
- winsix

Speculation. Leafs may not need him, but sure would like to have him...what team wouldn't?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 1 @ 10:19 AM ET
I say Willy plays first PP for a whole bunch of reasons. Summarized - he's really good.
- Woderwick


He will definitely be 1st unit power play this year. Ak Bars Kazan has the 21st powerplay in the league this year, clicking at an unimpressive 14.3%
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