I think Kap is gonna get a contract for 2-3 years at $2.5-$3.5 million.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Yeah, like a brown like contract but more money.

Either him or Johnnson will be traded next offseason through.

Some awful hockey so far in the San Jose vs Ottawa game.

Yeah, like a brown like contract but more money.

Either him or Johnnson will be traded next offseason through.
- Santo_44

You think? I feel like we should keep both of them. Good young players not making a whole lot, so they're not hard on the cap.

new blog everyone

You think? I feel like we should keep both of them. Good young players not making a whole lot, so they're not hard on the cap.
- GreatGigInTheSky

depends to a great degree on what happens with Willy Holdoutlander...

if Nylander signs cheapish... then those guys become trade material and I would think pretty attractive to teams at the deadline... if the Leafs go looking for help on defense

new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo

let me guess what it is about?

your big question still holds, but there's no way that Kapanen gets north of 4M or Johnsson gets anywhere near 3M per year.

the body of work is far too small and they are in exactly the same RFA siituation as Nylander - except with much much less statistical support
- BorjeFan4Ever

If Kapanen scores 30 goals and 55 points this year - what's the number? His argument would be he was not given the same opportunity in previous years and there would be some truth to it. And I don't know about Johnsson, I've heard he has an idiot agent. But with any level of success they will be looking for a serious pay hike

You're reaching man. I guess that's what happens when you have a rock solid argument. You can regret something at the time that it happens and then no longer regret it when things work out better. You're comparing the regret of taking a little less money and then ending up set for life to losing 40 years of your life for doing something horrible that probably hurt someone. You either over value money way to much or are a psychopath who care very little for other peoples well being. Either way you're (frank)ed in the head.
- HealthyScratch6

So a person can only regret doing something while they are currently doing it...WOW

I made a mistake, I thought you were the person who said "turning down a highly paid job and not regretting it because you won the lottery". That person is a complete moron. Obviously turning down a job has absolutely no direct correlation whether a person wins the lottery or not, but a sane person would regret it because that could of been a better life. Now a person may feel content about turning down the job because things luckily worked out, which at the time there was no guarantee it would have, but that does not remove regret. Again we are talking semantics about a made up example, but also an intelligent person knows the meaning of the word regret.

Then you call me a psychopath who doesn't care about the well being of other people based on a crime that was not specified nor actually done. Mental illness is not something that should be joked about, I plead with you to seek help. If you would like to pm me I will be more than happy to direct you to someone who can help.

Dude. Breathe. Take it easy. Calm down.. or just find somewhere else to be a complete (frank)ing scoont.
- systemtool

Are you ok? You tell me to calm down because one of YOUR Leafs fans asked me a question? That's his comment dingleberry with my answers that he DIRECTLY asked.

Yes, way before Lindros days for me.



Well first thing most people do is assume every single situation is the same, this player signed for this so this player will do the same.

1) Both agent and teams play a big part in it. One agent may have a great rapport with the acting GM, whereas another agent may not. That makes a huge difference in negotiations.
2) How the player thinks about themselves or future. Nylander could think very highly of himself and have confidence that Kucherov and Pastrnak are not nearly as good as what he can do. I don't know that for fact, but that is huge in negotiations.



Neither is wrong, it's a business. Both are doing what they feel is best for themselves. That's where compromise needs to happen, but as we have seen both are firm on their stance so they can only blame themselves.



You just answered it below.



Again you basically answered the question yourself. Lindros has absolutely no similarities to the Nylander holdout. Probably way more better examples. Lindros didn't holdout because he felt he wasn't being compensated for his worth, he held out because of his relationship with Bobby Clarke and the animosity they both built up with each over his career injuries and how they were handled. Not the money. Pretty sure he was offered a 1 year 8.5m contract in 2001, which was HIGH for the time.



Who criticized the Leafs management? If I was in the Leafs situation I wouldn't meet the speculative demands Nylander is asking for. I also would not be happy if the Flyers traded for him, not just for giving up assets, but purely agreeing on paying him that much, if the speculation was true.

Marner hasn't held out, which makes a big difference. Why on earth would Marner not talk to a teammate who has gone through the same situation he is about to go through? At the time JT signed that deal with the Islanders, fans and the team loved it. There is no denying that. He signed it to help the team compete, he was told that would allow the team to help him win. Did it? What did JT accomplish in NY? You put JT in that same situation today, I guarantee he does it differently knowing what he knows now. If you are going to get paid later and have no guarantee the team will do what they say they will, wouldn't you want to get paid now instead of waiting?
- Glak18

good blog

good blog
- TheMussel

Make sure you read Part 1 of the blog by BorjeFan4Ever

Jeremy Roenick
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23s23 seconds ago

Who wants to sit out a season, rather than make close to $7 million bucks and play for a Cup contending team.... I’ll sign the contract if he doesn’t. #NylanderWatch


- GreatGigInTheSky

Apparently this little blonde swedish coont does.

Told ya