I’m so glad this violence is leaving the game.
- Dongull_Trump

Right? Talk about taking a step backward...about 40 steps.

I completely agree

How does Hyman get 2 games and Wagner gets nothing?

Hyman got knocked to the ice and then elbowed in the head as he was getting up.

Perhaps he should have shared that highlight in the hearing and explained that he was still dazed from that non-call.

Hyman got knocked to the ice and then elbowed in the head as he was getting up.

Perhaps he should have shared that highlight in the hearing and explained that he was still dazed from that non-call.
- Feeling Glucky?

From my understanding, no Bruins player is allowed to be suspended and Ryan Reaves has buddies in high places in the league.

Hyman got knocked to the ice and then elbowed in the head as he was getting up.

Perhaps he should have shared that highlight in the hearing and explained that he was still dazed from that non-call.
- Feeling Glucky?

The one on one play when the Leafs were shorthanded?

If it is...I backed it up and watched it slow motion...shoulder to shoulder - didn't hit his head at all.

Pietrangelo is coming to Tampa.
- Bolts91

Coming to the Leafs to play with his buddy Tavares.

Coming to the Leafs to play with his buddy Tavares.
- Unholy_Goalie

For Zaitsev and not Nylander.

Mike Augello: Hyman suspended two games, another Boston Massacre and Pietrangelo talk
- mikeinbuffalo

Been saying Pietrangelo for weeks. The Blues are a terrible team this year, they need to rebuild and with big name guys set to become UFAs soon, they're going to have a hard time convincing them to re-sign long term.

I doubt they'd want Zaitsev but if they do, (frank)ing yippy. If they can move Zaitsev and Brown, that'd be the perfect amount to pay for Pietrangelo. Even as a rental, that'd be a fine price to pay. To extend him long term, that might be a challenge. But given he's never won awards like Doughty, it's also possible he could be re-signed for 8 AAV which would be a huge win for the Leafs if they could dump Zaitsev and replace him with a legit, top pairing RHD.

For Zaitsev and not Nylander.
- PatC80

Sure, fine by me.

But I doubt Armstrong is that stupid. If he is though, so be it. I'd happily keep Nylander and move Zaitsev and Brown to get Pietrangelo. I just think it's more realistic that Armstrong would have a higher price than that, especially when other teams start making him offers and the price goes up.

Either way, the Leafs become better but obviously if it only costs Zaitsev and Brown, that's the better price to pay if they can make the cap hits work.

If the reffing on this game called just a fraction of the Bruin cross checks this game wouldn't have gotten as chippy as it did.
The Leafs, who are one of the leagues top puck possession teams with speed to burn, are dead last in the league for power play opportunities. Dead last. How is that possible? And the stats were similar last year.
Face off violation penalty that's called like never....who got the first one ever called?
Visor violation penalty....who got the first one ever called?
Is there a bias going on here?
Wilson's hit should have been a suspension....Hymens? Maybe a fine....game penalty should have been more than enough.
The league is going down the sh!tters with garbage calls like that....

Sure, fine by me.

But I doubt Armstrong is that stupid. If he is though, so be it. I'd happily keep Nylander and move Zaitsev and Brown to get Pietrangelo. I just think it's more realistic that Armstrong would have a higher price than that, especially when other teams start making him offers and the price goes up.

Either way, the Leafs become better but obviously if it only costs Zaitsev and Brown, that's the better price to pay if they can make the cap hits work.
- Unholy_Goalie

Zaitsev would need to be added to make salaries work. Think it was a 1st rd pick, Zaitsev, Johnsson and a prospect.

If the reffing on this game called just a fraction of the Bruin cross checks this game wouldn't have gotten as chippy as it did.
The Leafs, who are one of the leagues top puck possession teams with speed to burn, are dead last in the league for power play opportunities. Dead last. How is that possible? And the stats were similar last year.
Face off violation penalty that's called like never....who got the first one ever called?
Visor violation penalty....who got the first one ever called?
Is there a bias going on here?
Wilson's hit should have been a suspension....Hymens? Maybe a fine....game penalty should have been more than enough.
The league is going down the sh!tters with garbage calls like that....
- Smileypants17

You sure about that? Kind of hard to believe the Leafs are the best puck possession team when they're regularly getting outshot and giving up 40+ shots a game.

Zaitsev would need to be added to make salaries work. Think it was a 1st rd pick, Zaitsev, Johnsson and a prospect.
- PatC80

Done. No problem. But how do you extend Pietrangelo?

But I doubt the price would be that low. It's not a Karlsson situation where he "must" be traded. A lot of teams will be interested in Pietrangelo and that price may go way up, especially at the trade deadline.

Zaitsev would need to be added to make salaries work. Think it was a 1st rd pick, Zaitsev, Johnsson and a prospect.
- PatC80

Kap/johnsson , zaitsev, 1st/prospect

Zaitsev also needed to play RD for the blues

Watching the Oilers play lately is like watching a completely different team. Hitchcock is truly one of the best coaches in the game. He transformed this team in less than 10 games and they're playing some great hockey.

Been saying Pietrangelo for weeks. The Blues are a terrible team this year, they need to rebuild and with big name guys set to become UFAs soon, they're going to have a hard time convincing them to re-sign long term.

I doubt they'd want Zaitsev but if they do, (frank)ing yippy. If they can move Zaitsev and Brown, that'd be the perfect amount to pay for Pietrangelo. Even as a rental, that'd be a fine price to pay. To extend him long term, that might be a challenge. But given he's never won awards like Doughty, it's also possible he could be re-signed for 8 AAV which would be a huge win for the Leafs if they could dump Zaitsev and replace him with a legit, top pairing RHD.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yes and you haven't been chirped for it either. The news is that Friedman suspects he wants to waive and come to the leafs/tavares. If the blues want to rebuild and know he is not signing with them and he would waive for the leafs we may get a good deal. like I said before though pietrangelo may have a few teams in his list.

Yes and you haven't been chirped for it either. The news is that Friedman suspects he wants to waive and come to the leafs/tavares. If the blues want to rebuild and know he is not signing with them and he would waive for the leafs we may get a good deal. like I said before though pietrangelo may have a few teams in his list.
- Drapz

It's a great fit for both sides. Pietrangelo is from King City, he played with Tavares growing up, the Leafs need a RHD and Pietrangelo probably wants to make the playoffs.

As a rental, I'd dump Zaitsev and Brown in a second to get Pietrangelo even for 1 year. But it'd be really great if they could find the money to re-sign him long term. Adding Pietrangelo long term gives the Leafs a much better chance in the playoffs and helps them match-up a lot better with Tampa Bay.

Yes and you haven't been chirped for it either. The news is that Friedman suspects he wants to waive and come to the leafs/tavares. If the blues want to rebuild and know he is not signing with them and he would waive for the leafs we may get a good deal. like I said before though pietrangelo may have a few teams in his list.
- Drapz

That'd be sweet. Especially if we could move out Zaitsev too. If you have to give up someone like Kappy or Johnsson and a pick (1st or 2nd probably?), get it done. I like both Kapanen and Johnsson, but still a good trade.

Sending Brown instead of Kap or Johnsson would be even better, but I don't know if he has as much value.

That'd be sweet. Especially if we could move out Zaitsev too. If you have to give up someone like Kappy or Johnsson and a pick (1st or 2nd probably?), get it done. I like both Kapanen and Johnsson, but still a good trade.

Sending Brown instead of Kap or Johnsson would be even better, but I don't know if he has as much value.
- Thecakeisalie

Brown would have to go to re-sign Pietrangelo but it doesn't have to be to the Blues.

Much rather move Johnsson than Kapanen though. Blues have no cap space either so they may prefer the cheaper players and Kapanen could cost them more than they want to spend to re-sign him.

Brown would have to go to re-sign Pietrangelo but it doesn't have to be to the Blues.

Much rather move Johnsson than Kapanen though. Blues have no cap space either so they may prefer the cheaper players and Kapanen could cost them more than they want to spend to re-sign him.
- Unholy_Goalie

Im sure theres a deal to be had to make both teams happy but the huge issue is Pietrangelos contract on a 8 year deal.

Toronto has plenty of stuff Blues would be happy to get in a package, so thats not a ahuge factor.

Cap hit long term is the issue.

Im sure theres a deal to be had to make both teams happy but the huge issue is Pietrangelos contract on a 8 year deal.

Toronto has plenty of stuff Blues would be happy to get in a package, so thats not a ahuge factor.

Cap hit long term is the issue.
- Buggy166

If it's a 1.5 year rental but we get rid of Zaitsev, it's worth it.

The extension wouldn't be easy but he also can't ask for Doughty money either. He's very good but he's not the absolute best so he'll get less than top dollar. I think an 8 year, 8 AAV deal would be pretty fair. And because they'd have him before the deadline, the Leafs can actually offer him the 8th year that nobody else could.

Tavares at 11
Matthews at 10
Marner at 9
Pietrangelo at 8
Nylander at 7
Rielly at 5
Andersen at 5
Kadri at 4.5

Pretty good core to spend 60 million on.

How does Hyman get 2 games and Wagner gets nothing?
- PatC80

Because Boston always gets the benefit of the doubt.

Countless Marchand incidents go unpunished.
Chara just hacks the poop out of everyone all the time, nothing.
Kadri gets 3 (frank)ing games IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Hyman... Par for the course.

And on and on and on...

Hello Leafsbros

If we're shopping dmen Petro makes the most sense. We can't trade Parayko and then keep our fingers crossed Petro re-signs with us after next year.

Losing both in less than two years would be franchise suicide, and Armstrong knows that.

If we're shipping him off though I'm seriously doubting Armstrong takes on a 5.5 year cap dump @ that cap hit as part of the deal. Stats look like he's regressed hard since his signing year and that is a serious contract.

I feel like adding Zaitsev would require extra trade value coming our way.

Hello Leafsbros

If we're shopping dmen Petro makes the most sense. We can't trade Parayko and then keep our fingers crossed Petro re-signs with us after next year.

Losing both in less than two years would be franchise suicide, and Armstrong knows that.

If we're shipping him off though I'm seriously doubting Armstrong takes on a 5.5 year cap dump @ that cap hit as part of the deal. Stats look like he's regressed hard since his signing year and that is a serious contract.

I feel like adding Zaitsev would require extra trade value coming our way.
- Blueshockey47

Yeah, sending you Zaitsev seems like a tough sell to me too unless we really sweeten the deal. Unless GM's out there see more value in him than I do.