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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
Both streaks are over. Can we get back to reality?
- Chris16


We’ve got 40pts now in 31games

As long as we stay healthy...
100pts is a real possibility
(60pts in 51games)

Which would pretty much blow my expectations out of the water

I was thinking 90ish points
Possibly less
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:29 PM ET
Most underappreciated buffalo athlete of all time.

Jack is a mega superstar.


*On pace for 100.5 points this year

- Boss34


Jack?!
He’s overwhelmingly adored here
A few ppl wanting him to score more goals doesn’t change the overall sentiment
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
Jack?!
He’s overwhelmingly adored here
A few ppl wanting him to score more goals doesn’t change the overall sentiment

- jdfitz77



What?

Common normal Buffalp fans, they get it.

But our "experts" here call him overpaid and "clank"

He should score more goals? How's 5 in 3 games?

It was inevitable that Jack was gonna score goals.
He is dominant
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
It's not necessarily the goal numbers. His shot and shot attempt numbers are pretty low for someone who is being given the reverse larsson treatment. And despite that, hes still apparently hurting the team defensively.

It's not bad, especially like you said, weren't expecting too much from him, but by all accounts they've put him in a position to have a good year and he's kind of been meh.

- Sabresfan-365


That’s fair
I do notice his speed out there though
For whatever reason,
we just haven’t been able to get anyone clicking on the 2nd or 3rd lines
They’ve all looked mostly “meh”
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:34 PM ET
What?

Common normal Buffalp fans, they get it.

But our "experts" here call him overpaid and "clank"

He should score more goals? How's 5 in 3 games?

It was inevitable that Jack was gonna score goals.
He is dominant

- Boss34


Even now he’s on pace for 25 goals
A select FEW have called him out for that
Most would’ve thought 30-35goals

That said
99% of ppl in & around Buffalo LOVE Jack
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 11 @ 10:36 PM ET
That’s fair
I do notice his speed out there though
For whatever reason,
we just haven’t been able to get anyone clicking on the 2nd or 3rd lines
They’ve all looked mostly “meh”

- jdfitz77



I must admit, ive made a mistake here. The stats I was looking at weren't up to date, appears sheary is trending in the right direction now. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come because you're right, that entire line has kinda just been meh in most areas. Surprising tbh because I thought they'd fit well together.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 11 @ 10:36 PM ET
You could also be impressed with them sitting 4th overall in the conference and 5th in the league up from last place last year but I have a feeling you like to wallow in pity.
- sabresfan69

Or they should have handled a 31st place team coming off a back to back. But I guess my expectations are too high.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 11 @ 10:38 PM ET
What?

Common normal Buffalp fans, they get it.

But our "experts" here call him overpaid and "clank"

He should score more goals? How's 5 in 3 games?

It was inevitable that Jack was gonna score goals.
He is dominant

- Boss34


Only a few players in the entire league have more shots on goal then Eichel. Going a whole season with a shooting percentage of 4.97% was not going to happen. With all of this considered he was still averaging over a point a game which I thought was a remarkable feat.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 11 @ 10:40 PM ET
Or they should have handled a 31st place team coming off a back to back. But I guess my expectations are too high.
- ImThatGuy


You’re not wrong. This team is still flawed. I’ll take the two points though and be mad on a night they lose.
Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:42 PM ET
Only a few players in the entire league have more shots on goal then Eichel. Going a whole season with a shooting percentage of 4.97% was not going to happen. With all of this considered he was still averaging over a point a game which I thought was a remarkable feat.
- Pegullaville


I’m not sure people can use the “eichel never takes over a game” argument.

He pretty much willed the team to the win today with his effort in the third
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:43 PM ET
Even now he’s on pace for 25 goals
A select FEW have called him out for that
Most would’ve thought 30-35goals

That said
99% of ppl in & around Buffalo LOVE Jack

- jdfitz77



25/75 = 100 points
22 years old
Signed for 7 more years

Jack's gonna get 30.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 11 @ 10:43 PM ET
I wouldn't be against them going nuclear on that 2nd line (even 3rd)

Near as I can tell the line really lacks a leader in the sense that two of them can't drive the offense and one of them is a little too young for that role.

Imo they could swap Okposo and Skinner or Move Mittelstadt to Eichel's wing, less puck on his stick may reduce the pressure, could equal more points. Then put Sheary, Berglund/sobotka and Skinner together.

I know it looks putrid but the middle six has been totally ineffective for most of this year. Tonight they generated 4 shots and no points.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:45 PM ET
I must admit, ive made a mistake here. The stats I was looking at weren't up to date, appears sheary is trending in the right direction now. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come because you're right, that entire line has kinda just been meh in most areas. Surprising tbh because I thought they'd fit well together.
- Sabresfan-365


I know it’s kinda crazy to say...
but maybe we should swap Sheary & Skinner

We gotta get that 2nd line going at least
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:47 PM ET
25/75 = 100 points
22 years old
Signed for 7 more years

Jack's gonna get 30.

- Boss34


Probably
But a few ppl wanting him to score more when he only had 5 goals a few games ago isn’t exactly uncalled for
Even they know how good he is
That’s why they wanted to see more
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:49 PM ET
I wouldn't be against them going nuclear on that 2nd line (even 3rd)

Near as I can tell the line really lacks a leader in the sense that two of them can't drive the offense and one of them is a little too young for that role.

Imo they could swap Okposo and Skinner or Move Mittelstadt to Eichel's wing, less puck on his stick may reduce the pressure, could equal more points. Then put Sheary, Berglund/sobotka and Skinner together.

I know it looks putrid but the middle six has been totally ineffective for most of this year. Tonight they generated 4 shots and no points.

- Sabresfan-365


It’s easily our biggest issue thus far

I don’t wanna separate Jack & Skinner,
but we are running out of options
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
I’m not sure people can use the “eichel never takes over a game” argument.

He pretty much willed the team to the win today with his effort in the third

- Shadman306


I was a huge Jeff Skinner fan even when he was in Carolina but before the season his historical point production and even goals per game was almost identical to Evander Kane. He already has 21 goals and is averaging a point a game. Now Skinner is obviously an elite 5v5 goal scorer but without Eichel this team is a lottery team. Eichel is willing us to a possible playoff berth nevermind just one game.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
Probably
But a few ppl wanting him to score more when he only had 5 goals a few games ago isn’t exactly uncalled for
Even they know how good he is
That’s why they wanted to see more

- jdfitz77[/quote

It was completely uncalled for:
Jack leads the league in shots
Jack was shooting at a career low %
Jack has skinner setting records
Jack has sam getting points.

If you go to the games, jack is better then any player on the ice 95% of the time.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
It’s easily our biggest issue thus far

I don’t wanna separate Jack & Skinner,
but we are running out of options

- jdfitz77


Yeah I dont think its crazy at all fwiw, but maybe im crazy.


The extreme offense/defense set up for lines 2-4 isn't usually sustainable anyways, they may as well give "spreading the wealth" a shot.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:55 PM ET
[quote=jdfitz77]Probably
But a few ppl wanting him to score more when he only had 5 goals a few games ago isn’t exactly uncalled for
Even they know how good he is
That’s why they wanted to see more

- Boss34[/quote

It was completely uncalled for:
Jack leads the league in shots
Jack was shooting at a career low %
Jack has skinner setting records
Jack has sam getting points.

If you go to the games, jack is better then any player on the ice 95% of the time.


While all that’s true...
ppl just wanted to see it translate into more goals

I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with that

Ppl wanted more, bc they knew how awesome he is

And it really wasn’t even that many ppl
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 11 @ 10:55 PM ET
Yeah I dont think its crazy at all fwiw, but maybe im crazy.


The extreme offense/defense set up for lines 2-4 isn't usually sustainable anyways, they may as well give "spreading the wealth" a shot.

- Sabresfan-365


Is that really up for debate at this point?

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:55 PM ET
I was a huge Jeff Skinner fan even when he was Carolina but before the season his historical point production and even goals per game was almost identical to Evander Kane. He already has 21 goals and is averaging a point a game. Now Skinner is obviously an elite 5v5 goal scorer but without Eichel this team is a lottery team. Eichel is willing us to a possible playoff berth nevermind just one game.
- Pegullaville



If people can't see why we tanked for jack, they are blind.


Aside from the drive, power and speed:

Jack's entertainment value is incredible

Exciting young mega superstar
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 10:56 PM ET
Yeah I dont think its crazy at all fwiw, but maybe im crazy.


The extreme offense/defense set up for lines 2-4 isn't usually sustainable anyways, they may as well give "spreading the wealth" a shot.

- Sabresfan-365


I’d rather tinker with the lineup now,
then when we are down 3 games to 1 in the playoffs

Yeah, i said PLAYOFFS!!!
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 10:57 PM ET
While all that’s true...
ppl just wanted to see it translate into more goals

I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with that

Ppl wanted more, bc they knew how awesome he is

And it really wasn’t even that many ppl

- jdfitz77



Sure

But the "is eichel playing tonight "

"He's overpaid"


Couldn't be more incorrect



Mega superstar
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 11 @ 10:59 PM ET
Yeah I dont think its crazy at all fwiw, but maybe im crazy.


The extreme offense/defense set up for lines 2-4 isn't usually sustainable anyways, they may as well give "spreading the wealth" a shot.

- Sabresfan-365


Pominville can have success with Jeff and Jack. The almighty Reinhart should be able to spark Sheary and Mitts.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 11 @ 11:01 PM ET
Sure

But the "is eichel playing tonight "

"He's overpaid"

Couldn't be more incorrect


Mega superstar

- Boss34


I think even when ppl get all dumb with that kinda stuff that they still know he’s a stud and are really happy he’s here

It’s easy for debates on here to spiral outta control
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