To put it in perspective...

Cory Schneider, at 26, was traded for the 9th overall in the off-season. A budding goaltender who at the time was just reaching his prime and was playing behind Luongo.

In that category currently, probably John Gibson or Andrei Vasilevskiy.

There is NO ONE who would be available worth a 1st or close to it.
- Glak18

You're forgetting that there is a pretty good comparable from only a few years ago.

Ryan Miller, at age 33, was traded from the Sabres to the Blues along with Steve Ott for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick. Quick will be 33 at this season's trade deadline.

So cap dump, cap dump, quality prospect, 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick.

I'm not saying it's an exact comparison (Miller was a rental, Quick has injury history, Ott was included, etc.), but a contending team looking to improve their goaltending at the deadline will give up a comparable haul for Quick.

Yeah, LA is terrible. They should seriously be considering blow it all up. It's not limited to Quick.

Doughty is going to start carrying a cap hit of 11 million as a 31 year old next year and they're dead last in the league. They've got some serious questions to ask themselves moving forward.
- hereticpride

They are. Pretty much the only untouchables are players under 21, Kopitar, and Doughty. Everyone else is for sale.

Because they're going to suck for several years and they'll likely lose him to Seattle in the expansion draft anyway.
- tkecanuck341

Okay, that's one reason why they might want to trade him. What might be another reason?

Coach Facepunch leading the charge

https://nhl.nbcsports.com...agile-blues-go-from-here/
- Just5

He should thank Mason for making him relevant. Oh wait he already did.

You're forgetting that there is a pretty good comparable from only a few years ago.

Ryan Miller, at age 33, was traded from the Sabres to the Blues along with Steve Ott for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick. Quick will be 33 at this season's trade deadline.

So cap dump, cap dump, quality prospect, 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick.

I'm not saying it's an exact comparison (Miller was a rental, Quick has injury history, Ott was included, etc.), but a contending team looking to improve their goaltending at the deadline will give up a comparable haul for Quick.
- tkecanuck341

The Blues made a bad deal.

Okay, that's one reason why they might want to trade him. What might be another reason?
- MJL

Cal Petersen stepped up and had a quality showing this season while Quick was out. He's going to be the goaltender of the future, so might as well hand over the reins now to maximize the return.

The Blues made a bad deal.
- MJL

Not saying they didn't. However, there are 29 other GMs in the league. Odds are at least one of them will offer up a bad deal to try and improve their goaltending to try and make a run.

You're forgetting that there is a pretty good comparable from only a few years ago.

Ryan Miller, at age 33, was traded from the Sabres to the Blues along with Steve Ott for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick. Quick will be 33 at this season's trade deadline.

So cap dump, cap dump, quality prospect, 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick.

I'm not saying it's an exact comparison (Miller was a rental, Quick has injury history, Ott was included, etc.), but a contending team looking to improve their goaltending at the deadline will give up a comparable haul for Quick.
- tkecanuck341

Hopefully not the Flyers, unless those cap dumps are MacDonald, Weise and Neuvirth

So it came down to not winning and not about not talking enough to his bosses.
- MJL

In a simplistic way, I believe so. If you're doing what you think is best for the company while doing your job but when the bosses ask you why things aren't going well and your response to them is don't worry about it, I got a plan. I would think that would only last for so long. But if you can show your bosses, here is what I've been doing to improve the company, they may not like the results but they may understand your rationale for doing it and give you more freedom to continue...Just my opinion

Not saying they didn't. However, there are 29 other GMs in the league. Odds are at least one of them will offer up a bad deal to try and improve their goaltending to try and make a run.
- tkecanuck341

A team that is a goaltender away, or a playoff team that has an injury might. That's not the Flyers.

Hopefully not the Flyers, unless those cap dumps are MacDonald, Weise and Neuvirth
- Glak18

I'm sure you could get the Kings to agree to take all 3 of those guys in exchange for Quick, assuming there is a 1st and a quality prospect coming back their way.

In a simplistic way, I believe so. If you're doing what you think is best for the company while doing your job but when the bosses ask you why things aren't going well and your response to them is don't worry about it, I got a plan. I would think that would only last for so long. But if you can show your bosses, here is what I've been doing to improve the company, they may not like the results but they may understand your rationale for doing it and give you more freedom to continue...Just my opinion
- Shafe5858

Cart and horse. If the team is winning, they're not coming to ask for an explanation on why things aren't going well. It's about winning. Everything else is nonsense. They knew what Hextall was doing and what his plan was the day they hired him.

A team that is a goaltender away, or a playoff team that has an injury might. That's not the Flyers.
- MJL

It might not be. I'm just saying that there will likely be other deals from other teams in and around that asking price. If the Flyers want a shot at him, it's not going to be for a cap dump and a 2nd round pick. The better option for them might be to pass and look elsewhere.

Not sure if it has been brought up yet but according to Left Wing Lock the Flyers have new Line Combs:

JVR - G - Konecny
Raffl - Coots - Voracek
Laughton - Patrick - Simmonds
Lindblom - Varone - Weise

I'm sure you could get the Kings to agree to take all 3 of those guys in exchange for Quick, assuming there is a 1st and a quality prospect coming back their way.
- tkecanuck341

Yeah it would have to include a lot of junk to add that 1st in there and more coming back for a prospect too.

With Quick's term, age and uncertainty...a 3rd round pick, a 2nd for a TDL desperation team. Adding high value picks or prospects to get rid of 1 or 2 year contracts isn't worth it. Luckily the Flyers don't have to trade based on no cap room.

It might not be. I'm just saying that there will likely be other deals from other teams in and around that asking price. If the Flyers want a shot at him, it's not going to be for a cap dump and a 2nd round pick. The better option for them might be to pass and look elsewhere.
- tkecanuck341

Exactly, that's why most Flyer fans don't think Quick is in the sights of the Flyers. Most likely the "rumors" were LA planted to entice other teams to up their offer.

Not sure if it has been brought up yet but according to Left Wing Lock the Flyers have new Line Combs:

JVR - G - Konecny
Raffl - Coots - Voracek
Laughton - Patrick - Simmonds
Lindblom - Varone - Weise
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That top line scares me.

It might not be. I'm just saying that there will likely be other deals from other teams in and around that asking price. If the Flyers want a shot at him, it's not going to be for a cap dump and a 2nd round pick. The better option for them might be to pass and look elsewhere.
- tkecanuck341

Have to remember, the term on Quick's deal is going to be severely limiting at the deadline market. If the Kings are looking to move on from him, they're going to find it very difficult to get that high of a value. Look around the league and the prospective playoff teams. Who might be in the market for a goaltender at the deadline.

I'm not interested in Quick for the Flyers but if I was, to make an adjustment on the ridiculous deal offered earlier in the thread, at best I'd give Ratcliffe and maybe a 3rd round pick for Quick. That would be generous.

You're forgetting that there is a pretty good comparable from only a few years ago.

Ryan Miller, at age 33, was traded from the Sabres to the Blues along with Steve Ott for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick. Quick will be 33 at this season's trade deadline.

So cap dump, cap dump, quality prospect, 1st round pick, and a 3rd round pick.

I'm not saying it's an exact comparison (Miller was a rental, Quick has injury history, Ott was included, etc.), but a contending team looking to improve their goaltending at the deadline will give up a comparable haul for Quick.
- tkecanuck341

Yup now look at both teams.

I hope the flyers ride it out with elliott and stolarz. Reassess this summer. But that’s not what they brought fletch here to do. This man does action

Have to remember, the term on Quick's deal is going to be severely limiting at the deadline market. If the Kings are looking to move on from him, they're going to find it very difficult to get that high of a value. Look around the league and the prospective playoff teams. Who might be in the market for a goaltender at the deadline.

I'm not interested in Quick for the Flyers but if I was, to make an adjustment on the ridiculous deal offered earlier in the thread, at best I'd give Ratcliffe and maybe a 3rd round pick for Quick. That would be generous.
- MJL

The more likely scenario is LA adding a 1st or top prospect to unload salary with Quick. Although I don't see that happening with Hughes as a possibility, but if I am most teams it's 2019 1st or keep everything you have.

My money is on Quick.
- jmatchett383

"A Quick One, While He's Away"

Yeah it would have to include a lot of junk to add that 1st in there and more coming back for a prospect too.

With Quick's term, age and uncertainty...a 3rd round pick, a 2nd for a TDL desperation team. Adding high value picks or prospects to get rid of 1 or 2 year contracts isn't worth it. Luckily the Flyers don't have to trade based on no cap room.
- Glak18

I think the "uncertainty" surrounding Quick's health is over exaggerated. He missed significant time a few seasons ago due to a groin injury. This season, he was out with a pulled hamstring, then again with a meniscus tear. All of those injuries were unrelated to each other.

He has played 60+ games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, even surpassing 70 in 2014-15. If you watch his recent performances, you can see that he's still on top of his game. Just watch his highlights from the Carolina game last week and Vegas just a few days ago. His W/L record has more to do with the team playing in front of him than his own play.

I can see the Kings including players with contracts expiring in the next year or two to even out the cap and roster slots in exchange for cap dumps. Players like Nate Thompson and Trevor Lewis would be on the table. However, Quick would be the primary value of the contract. If they're not getting back a 1st and a prospect for him, then they'll look elsewhere.

The more likely scenario is LA adding a 1st or top prospect to unload salary with Quick. Although I don't see that happening with Hughes as a possibility, but if I am most teams it's 2019 1st or keep everything you have.
- Glak18

The Kings don't need to move Quick. He's still a quality goaltender. The only reason they would is to improve their prospect pipeline. If they don't get a reasonable offer for him, they'll keep him. Simple as that. They certainly don't need to pay to get rid of him.

Cart and horse. If the team is winning, they're not coming to ask for an explanation on why things aren't going well. It's about winning. Everything else is nonsense. They knew what Hextall was doing and what his plan was the day they hired him.
- MJL

Oh, I completely agree. That's why I said in my first post that if they were winning Hextall would still be here.
I'm just saying that because they were not winning, he may have needed to explain himself more and didn't. Obviously I have no idea what was happening with management at the time, just speculating

I think the "uncertainty" surrounding Quick's health is over exaggerated. He missed significant time a few seasons ago due to a groin injury. This season, he was out with a pulled hamstring, then again with a meniscus tear. All of those injuries were unrelated to each other.

He has played 60+ games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, even surpassing 70 in 2014-15. If you watch his recent performances, you can see that he's still on top of his game. Just watch his highlights from the Carolina game last week and Vegas just a few days ago. His W/L record has more to do with the team playing in front of him than his own play.

I can see the Kings including players with contracts expiring in the next year or two to even out the cap and roster slots in exchange for cap dumps. Players like Nate Thompson and Trevor Lewis would be on the table. However, Quick would be the primary value of the contract. If they're not getting back a 1st and a prospect for him, then they'll look elsewhere.
- tkecanuck341

You're omitting an important currency when considering what Quick may bring in a trade.