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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 12 @ 12:36 PM ET
Sure... But they aren't trading Nylander, Brown, Johnsson or anyone of significance to do it. And they certainly aren't doing it till the deadline.

They aren't

- .OHOH.

Oh ok.
Brown and johnsson are moveable assets.
Nylander wont be moved, but those other two easily could.
So prepare yourself
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 12 @ 12:36 PM ET
What stung most was when we acquired Billy Sweatt in the Versteeg trade, and he refused to sign with Toronto.

I always hated Vancouver for signing him after that.

It just wasn't fair.

- Atomic Wedgie



It hurts to think how different the fortunes of the Toronto Maple Leafs may have been had he signed.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
I 2nd that.

I don't think he causes problems now...but in years 5,6,7 he will be a nuisance.

- Santo_44

Imo he is not worth what he is currently being paid and may never be.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 12 @ 12:39 PM ET
https://www.fox7austin.com/facebook-instant/sources-say-houston-rockets-owner-fertitta-met-with-nhl-commissioner

Will this hurt the lock of Matthews to Arizona?

- RogerRoeper


I'm going to miss Matthews when he refuses to play because he can't live in Pheonix.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 12 @ 12:40 PM ET
https://www.fox7austin.com/facebook-instant/sources-say-houston-rockets-owner-fertitta-met-with-nhl-commissioner

Will this hurt the lock of Matthews to Arizona?

- RogerRoeper

You should ask Tanner.

No, seriously, I'm begging you; go ask Tanner.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 12 @ 12:40 PM ET
No, he actually prefers Houston I'm told.
- prock



because Austin is in Texas...and Auston likes that name
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Dec 12 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'm going to miss Matthews when he refuses to play because he can't live in Pheonix.
- TrashPanda

Honestly, we should just chase him out of town now.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
Honestly, we should just chase him out of town now.
- markmark


Agreed. It will save the time and energy later.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
Imo he is not worth what he is currently being paid and may never be.
- Fakepartofme

You are probably right.

He isn't a scrub though...I would pay him 3-3.5 million and be happy.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
see the second reply on page 5 of this thread

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=156523&page=5

- senstroll


Yeah, Poulin pumping Keith's tires as an option for the Leafs is demonstrating exactly why he is no longer in hockey management.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
Id like to see any deal that moves out Z's poopty contract
- Fakepartofme


If the Leafs get St. Louis to bite on that thing I think it's easy to build a package from there. Liljegren/Sandin + 1st or 2nd.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
because Austin is in Texas...and Auston likes that name
- senstroll


The outcome is so simple to see that it writes itself.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
3. Nick Kypreos shook the masses last weekend, wondering on Headlines if Alex Pietrangelo would be a fit for Toronto. With a few more days to work off it, my guess is this: St. Louis put him in William Nylander discussions, but the Maple Leafs decided to keep the winger. I see two reasons. First, Nylander is six years younger. Second, they might not be able to fit Pietrangelo’s extension (he’s eligible in July) and would prefer someone with term in that particular trade. It doesn’t mean they can’t/won’t re-consider him in the future.

They are doing due diligence on defencemen. They’re not crazy about term, but may consider some length if the cap hit is small enough. The defenceman has trade protection, but if Novice-age teammate John Tavares can handle Toronto, no reason Pietrangelo can’t.

Which is it Freidman? Do the Leafs want a D with term or without
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
If the Leafs get St. Louis to bite on that thing I think it's easy to build a package from there. Liljegren/Sandin + 1st or 2nd.
- Aaron_85


Johnnson/Kap are involved in any significant D trade. Both need to be re upped this offseason while Lil and Sandin do not.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
3. Nick Kypreos shook the masses last weekend, wondering on Headlines if Alex Pietrangelo would be a fit for Toronto. With a few more days to work off it, my guess is this: St. Louis put him in William Nylander discussions, but the Maple Leafs decided to keep the winger. I see two reasons. First, Nylander is six years younger. Second, they might not be able to fit Pietrangelo’s extension (he’s eligible in July) and would prefer someone with term in that particular trade. It doesn’t mean they can’t/won’t re-consider him in the future.

They are doing due diligence on defencemen. They’re not crazy about term, but may consider some length if the cap hit is small enough. The defenceman has trade protection, but if Novice-age teammate John Tavares can handle Toronto, no reason Pietrangelo can’t.

Which is it Freidman? Do the Leafs want a D with term or without

- Santo_44



That's how you work in media you play both sides.

You can probably even swing sending the 2020 first round pick to St. Louis because this year is protected from the Buffalo trade from the top 10.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:00 PM ET
Johnnson/Kap are involved in any significant D trade. Both need to be re upped this offseason while Lil and Sandin do not.
- Santo_44


I'm going off the idea that St. Louis would want a high-end D prospect in return to replace Pieterangelo. You can trade Johnnson or Kap for Simmonds. Problem solved.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
I'm going off the idea that St. Louis would want a high-end D prospect in return to replace Pieterangelo. You can trade Johnnson or Kap for Simmonds. Problem solved.
- Aaron_85



no thank you.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
That's how you work in media you play both sides.

You can probably even swing sending the 2020 first round pick to St. Louis because this year is protected from the Buffalo trade from the top 10.

- Aaron_85


What I got form that is St. Louis may be interested in moving Petro. He isn't untouchable.

And Dubas is looking for D.

He also said that Dubas does not care about "toughness". You look at the two top teams in the league right now and they are both being built the same way. TB and Toronto.

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:07 PM ET


no thank you.

- Santo_44


Wait...they have to be included in a deal for Pieteroangelo in your eyes but for any other trade no? Simmonds would be fine.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Those talking heads have no sources. Marc Savard was the only one right about Nylander
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Wait...they have to be included in a deal for Pieteroangelo in your eyes but for any other trade no? Simmonds would be fine.
- Aaron_85

Yeah...Petro is leaps and bounds better than Simmonds. It isn't even close.

Petro has another year.

Oh. and the Leafs need a RHD not a winger.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yeah...Petro is leaps and bounds better than Simmonds. It isn't even close.

Petro has another year.

Oh. and the Leafs need a RHD not a winger.

- Santo_44


My post said to get both of them....
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
What I got form that is St. Louis may be interested in moving Petro. He isn't untouchable.

And Dubas is looking for D.

He also said that Dubas does not care about "toughness". You look at the two top teams in the league right now and they are both being built the same way. TB and Toronto.

- Santo_44

Where did you see this? Just curious
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
Where did you see this? Just curious
- ClarksonDavid

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ade-nylander-pietrangelo/
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
My post said to get both of them....
- Aaron_85

At the expense of Sandin, LIljegren, Kapanen? They aren't trading all of them.

They don't need Simmonds. Let a team that actually needs a forward to trade for him.
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