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Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Dec 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
Imho, coming out of camp healthy is far better than his current situation.
- Scoob

Wentz is done for the year why not Morin?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
I will say, this kind of job security is truly something to behold.

I think I’ll go give an enema to the wrong patient and put a catheter into someone’s nose.

Anything is possible.

- flyer_nutter


I don't think NHL coaches can be sued for medical malpractice...unless they practice medicine without a license.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
Wentz is done for the year why not Morin?
- Sinisalo4vr


It's the Eagles' now-annual "Foles to the Rescue" time.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Dec 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
So another year of hoping he can make the team out of camp with almost no NHL experience to draw upon? Just sit him in the press box while he's healthy so we can see more of Amac/Gudas/Folin?

poop, he might really not crack the roster until 2023 at this rate,

- jmatchett383


This sky is falling stuff people are spewing is out of control.

How many pro football players come of ACL normal recovery window and play fine....yet somehow with Sam its a MAJOR problem and he should get 18 months heal time. For christ's sake he's been skating for several weeks.

People need to brake check themselves.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
This sky is falling stuff people are spewing is out of control.

How many pro football players come of ACL normal recovery window and play fine....yet somehow with Sam its a MAJOR problem and he should get 18 months heal time. For christ's sake he's been skating for several weeks.

People need to brake check themselves.

- juiced


Yes, I can see a lot of scenerios playing out where after a conditioning stint with the phantoms, he can play on the Flyers 3rd pairing at the end of this season.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
I will say, this kind of job security is truly something to behold.

I think I’ll go give an enema to the wrong patient and put a catheter into someone’s nose.

Anything is possible.

- flyer_nutter


27th on the PP, dead (frank)ing last on the PK, tied for 14th in the conference, seventh in an 8-team division

I don't know what else Chuck Fletcher needs to think about, here -- you can do ANYTHING right now, address any area you want, and it's probably not gonna kill you

I mean seriously, WTF, man? These people act like they need 29 years to make a freaking decision -- Phil Varone ain't gonna get this done

Get on with it, people -- you're not trying to land a space rover on Mars

Get an effing defenseman and somebody who can help lock down a two-goal lead with 70 seconds left -- HOW ABOUT WE START THERE
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
So another year of hoping he can make the team out of camp with almost no NHL experience to draw upon? Just sit him in the press box while he's healthy so we can see more of Amac/Gudas/Folin?

poop, he might really not crack the roster until 2023 at this rate,

- jmatchett383


When you get injured and sit out a year or more that tends to push back a lot of things. It's not like he is coming back with half a season left, it will be well past the 3/4 mark even.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Dec 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
This sky is falling stuff people are spewing is out of control.

How many pro football players come of ACL normal recovery window and play fine....yet somehow with Sam its a MAJOR problem and he should get 18 months heal time. For christ's sake he's been skating for several weeks.

People need to brake check themselves.

- juiced
Ice is more slippery than grass.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
So he's guaranteed to reinjure himself if he plays in the NHL this year?
- jmatchett383


Anything can happen, but you do realize when he comes back his timing will be off, will make mistakes and if lucky will find a groove and the season will be over?

People keep harping that the only issue is whether he will or won't get injured again. When he gets back in the lineup I guarantee he will not be very effective at first.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
Anything can happen, but you do realize when he comes back his timing will be off, will make mistakes and if lucky will find a groove and the season will be over?

People keep harping that the only issue is whether he will or won't get injured again. When he gets back in the lineup I guarantee he will not be very effective at first.

- Glak18


As opposed to the rest of our defense?

If it's performance-related, that's one thing. I don't agree with it, but okay. But to keep him in bubble wrap even after he's been 100% cleared is silly to me.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
27th on the PP, dead (frank)ing last on the PK, tied for 14th in the conference, seventh in an 8-team division

I don't know what else Chuck Fletcher needs to think about, here -- you can do ANYTHING right now, address any area you want, and it's probably not gonna kill you

I mean seriously, WTF, man? These people act like they need 29 years to make a freaking decision -- Phil Varone ain't gonna get this done

Get on with it, people -- you're not trying to land a space rover on Mars

Get an effing defenseman and somebody who can help lock down a two-goal lead with 70 seconds left -- HOW ABOUT WE START THERE

- AllInForFlyers


Love you sweet cheeks, but I think the time for big changes is not now. Simmonds? Sure why not. He’s pretty trash 5 on 5 and why give a guy who is likely to decline - a big contract? I don’t see the need, and as part of a “leadership core” he is as much to blame as anyone. He was one of the biggest floaters to start this season. (frank) him.

In terms of other trades, I just don’t see the point at this time. You aren’t winning poop this season, it’s already mid December. Make the deals at the draft and the deadline. In FA. When teams aren’t as likely to exploit you.

My other big reason for wanting to wait is this. You’ve got Myers an inch away from establishing himself. You’ve got Sanheim who is showing he is ready for more. Frost likely close. Patrick and Lind who are indeed going through some regression. I don’t like the idea of trading the kids when you put all this time into developing, and they are so close. See what you have in them, and then fine... trade their asses if you feel they don’t cut it.

The organization did this to themselves by not firing Hak after he was last demolished in the playoffs (again), and not letting Hextall go before the season began along with Murphy if they really felt so close to firing them.


This year should be on Holmgren as far as I am concerned. First and foremost.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
This sky is falling stuff people are spewing is out of control.

How many pro football players come of ACL normal recovery window and play fine....yet somehow with Sam its a MAJOR problem and he should get 18 months heal time. For christ's sake he's been skating for several weeks.

People need to brake check themselves.

- juiced


Yeah I am a fan of those feel good stories of the running back coming back from knee surgery and looking like a pro bowl player again. Everyone always forgets about those other players that take longer to get their game back, if they actually do. I know doesn't fit the narrative so we will stay will the feel good.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Wentz is done for the year why not Morin?
- Sinisalo4vr


Fractured Vertebrae

yay Philly Sports!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
As opposed to the rest of our defense?

If it's performance-related, that's one thing. I don't agree with it, but okay. But to keep him in bubble wrap even after he's been 100% cleared is silly to me.

- jmatchett383


Who is saying anything about over protecting him? Someone just said he has been skating for 2 weeks now, screw it play him tomorrow then. Better than what we got, amirite?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
Yeah I am a fan of those feel good stories of the running back coming back from knee surgery and looking like a pro bowl player again. Everyone always forgets about those other players that take longer to get their game back, if they actually do. I know doesn't fit the narrative so we will stay will the feel good.
- Glak18


So, after Morin is medically cleared for play by an independent physician, how long does he have to wait until he's actually REALLY ready to play? What is that magic number?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:11 PM ET
I'm sorry do you think I am just talking about young players not playing?
- Glak18


The same principle applies.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Love you sweet cheeks, but I think the time for big changes is not now. Simmonds? Sure why not. He’s pretty trash 5 on 5 and why give a guy who is likely to decline - a big contract? I don’t see the need, and as part of a “leadership core” he is as much to blame as anyone. He was one of the biggest floaters to that this season. (frank) him.

In terms of other trades, I just don’t see the point at this time. You aren’t winning poop this season, it’s already mid December. Make the deals at the draft and the deadline. In FA. When teams aren’t as likely to exploit you.

My other big reason for wanting to wait is this. You’ve got Myers an inch away from establishing himself. You’ve got Sanheim who is showing he is ready for more. Frost likely close. Patrick and Lind who are indeed going through some regression. I don’t like the idea of trading the kids when you put all this time into developing, and they are so close. See what you have in them, and then he’s fine... trade their asses if you feel they don’t cut it.

The organization did this to themselves by not firing Hak after he was last demolished in the playoffs (again), and not letting Hextall go before the season began along with Murphy if they really felt so close to firing them.


This year should be on Holmgren as far as I am concerned. First and foremost.

- flyer_nutter


You know why this is infuriating? Not because I think you're wrong, but because this poop shouldn't be happening

All I (frank)ing hear about is this amazing farm system and all this cap space and all this talented youth, and you know what?

The on-ice isn't good enough.

Answer me this: What good is it to have this amazing freaking system and all this talented youth if you're putting Dale Weise on the ice with 38 seconds left in a one-goal game -- and he doesn't get the (frank)ing puck cleared and it winds up in your freaking net?

What is the point of that? It makes no sense.

Either you're using the youth and the farm system and living with their mistakes, or spend the (frank)ing cap space and burn assets to make the on-ice better

But nope.

We're in this hell of Sanheim and Lindblom playing a little, Weise and MacDonald on the ice in the final minute, AND STILL LOSING

WTF, man
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Is our team better yet
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
So, after Morin is medically cleared for play by an independent physician, how long does he have to wait until he's actually REALLY ready to play? What is that magic number?
- jmatchett383


You do understand I DIDN'T write the article? It is NOT my suggestion, again you understand that? When he is cleared and the team AND player say it is fine to play then PLAY...I don't care, but my opinion is if he doesn't play this year then it won't bother me.

It is currently DECEMBER 13th, 2018......his scheduled return is tentatively END of FEBRUARY. Subtract those dates and there is your magic number!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Love you sweet cheeks, but I think the time for big changes is not now. Simmonds? Sure why not. He’s pretty trash 5 on 5 and why give a guy who is likely to decline - a big contract? I don’t see the need, and as part of a “leadership core” he is as much to blame as anyone. He was one of the biggest floaters to start this season. (frank) him.

In terms of other trades, I just don’t see the point at this time. You aren’t winning poop this season, it’s already mid December. Make the deals at the draft and the deadline. In FA. When teams aren’t as likely to exploit you.

My other big reason for wanting to wait is this. You’ve got Myers an inch away from establishing himself. You’ve got Sanheim who is showing he is ready for more. Frost likely close. Patrick and Lind who are indeed going through some regression. I don’t like the idea of trading the kids when you put all this time into developing, and they are so close. See what you have in them, and then fine... trade their asses if you feel they don’t cut it.

The organization did this to themselves by not firing Hak after he was last demolished in the playoffs (again), and not letting Hextall go before the season began along with Murphy if they really felt so close to firing them.


This year should be on Holmgren as far as I am concerned. First and foremost.

- flyer_nutter

This is Lindblom and Patrick’s second season in the league. What regression? Lindblom didn’t play a lot of games last season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
27th on the PP, dead (frank)ing last on the PK, tied for 14th in the conference, seventh in an 8-team division

I don't know what else Chuck Fletcher needs to think about, here -- you can do ANYTHING right now, address any area you want, and it's probably not gonna kill you

I mean seriously, WTF, man? These people act like they need 29 years to make a freaking decision -- Phil Varone ain't gonna get this done

Get on with it, people -- you're not trying to land a space rover on Mars

Get an effing defenseman and somebody who can help lock down a two-goal lead with 70 seconds left -- HOW ABOUT WE START THERE

- AllInForFlyers


Cross your fingers and toes and hope hard. It's not that easy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
Love you sweet cheeks, but I think the time for big changes is not now. Simmonds? Sure why not. He’s pretty trash 5 on 5 and why give a guy who is likely to decline - a big contract? I don’t see the need, and as part of a “leadership core” he is as much to blame as anyone. He was one of the biggest floaters to start this season. (frank) him.

In terms of other trades, I just don’t see the point at this time. You aren’t winning poop this season, it’s already mid December. Make the deals at the draft and the deadline. In FA. When teams aren’t as likely to exploit you.

My other big reason for wanting to wait is this. You’ve got Myers an inch away from establishing himself. You’ve got Sanheim who is showing he is ready for more. Frost likely close. Patrick and Lind who are indeed going through some regression. I don’t like the idea of trading the kids when you put all this time into developing, and they are so close. See what you have in them, and then fine... trade their asses if you feel they don’t cut it.

The organization did this to themselves by not firing Hak after he was last demolished in the playoffs (again), and not letting Hextall go before the season began along with Murphy if they really felt so close to firing them.


This year should be on Holmgren as far as I am concerned. First and foremost.

- flyer_nutter


There was no legitimate reason to fire Hakstol after last season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
You do understand I DIDN'T write the article? It is NOT my suggestion, again you understand that? When he is cleared and the team AND player say it is fine to play then PLAY...I don't care, but my opinion is if he doesn't play this year then it won't bother me.

It is currently DECEMBER 13th, 2018......his scheduled return is tentatively END of FEBRUARY. Subtract those dates and there is your magic number!

- Glak18


That's fine. Again, if you don't think he'll be able to play better than what we have because of his time off, then fine. Again, I don't agree, but I can see that side.

But the article states that he shouldn't come back after being deemed healthy due to health risks, and I disagree.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
What's the silver bullet? Cause a move with Sanheim ain't fixing SH!T! Hell it'll bring back Ghost/AMac. Don't we all love that pair? Gudas/Hagg? oh joy sign me up. oh wait Gudas/AMac and Ghost Hagg . There are no perfect pairings with these guys.
- dragonoffrost


Yes there is! The coach just isn't using it.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:19 PM ET
As opposed to the rest of our defense?

If it's performance-related, that's one thing. I don't agree with it, but okay. But to keep him in bubble wrap even after he's been 100% cleared is silly to me.

- jmatchett383


this ain't the NBA...when he's cleared to play ...he plays.
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