They won't want to do it, but they might not have a choice -- not joking. They really might need Simmonds and Gudas
- AllInForFlyers

I dont see a franchise who is heading straight to cap hell and probably going to lose another defenseman this off season is going to trade a guy on an elc for 2 guys not.

They won't want to do it, but they might not have a choice -- not joking. They really might need Simmonds and Gudas
- AllInForFlyers

I think that would be a pretty fair deal all things considered. They aren't going to want to give us a roster player if they're gearing up for a run.

Yeah. Leafs are pretty good. Real good, actually. But as good as they are, they still need something
- AllInForFlyers

AMAC

I dont see a franchise who is heading straight to cap hell and probably going to lose another defenseman this off season is going to trade a guy on an elc for 2 guys not.
- Tfaehner

Probably have to take back an expiring contract tbh

Probably have to take back an expiring contract tbh
- hereticpride

I would imagine we would have to take Marleau. But hes got a full nmc. They have some wiggle room this year (5.7 million) but starting next year imagine matrhews at 10 marner at 8 and Gardiner at 5.5 they need to clear even with the cap going up about 8 million. Marleau would go a long way

To put it in perspective...Coburn, yes Brayden Coburn has already made a couple zone entries that if it was Sanheim doing the same Flyer fans would be screaming to the heavens that this kid is special. Not saying anything bad about Sanheim, but Coburn in Tampa looks like a top pair for the Flyers this year.

I don't know who started this with Giroux last year, but Giroux was NOT put on wing because he couldn't do it or because it would save him from "wear and tear". He was put on wing to utilize him a bit more as an offensive weapon by lessening his defensive responsibility. He still takes a crap load of face-offs, it was a smart move and paid off.

Now if Patrick had his breakout year a lot were hoping for this whole needing center depth would be non-existing.
- Glak18

In my opinion wear and tear was definitely part of it, if not the main motivation for it.

I dont see a franchise who is heading straight to cap hell and probably going to lose another defenseman this off season is going to trade a guy on an elc for 2 guys not.
- Tfaehner

Again: They might not have a real choice. They can dance around it, but this might be the best chance they get

Matthews and Marner aren't coming in at less than 10. I can see them getting 12, if they play hardball

The Leafs might not want to do it, but this might honestly be the only season they can have enough talented depth to do it

In my opinion wear and tear was definitely part of it, if not the main motivation for it.
- MJL

I think I remember hearing someone mention how he got hacked and wacked so much that it would help him last longer. Didn't Giroux take a huge amount of face-offs still last year and this year? I just find that laughable. Maybe wear and tear defensively I can accept.

I think I remember hearing someone mention how he got hacked and wacked so much that it would help him last longer. Didn't Giroux take a huge amount of face-offs still last year and this year? I just find that laughable. Maybe wear and tear defensively I can accept.
- Glak18

Same reason why they avoided using him on the PK until they had to. The idea is to prolong the time that Giroux remains a top player. No doubt his heavy usage in hard situations wore him down in the past.

Again: They might not have a real choice. They can dance around it, but this might be the best chance they get

Matthews and Marner aren't coming in at less than 10. I can see them getting 12, if they play hardball

The Leafs might not want to do it, but this might honestly be the only season they can have enough talented depth to do it
- AllInForFlyers

I get it and maybe they do. But I'm sure they'd rather find a taker for marleau and trade picks rather than close to NHL ready prospects.

Same reason why they avoided using him on the PK until they had to. The idea is to prolong the time that Giroux remains a top player. No doubt his heavy usage in hard situations wore him down in the past.
- MJL

I'm sorry I find the prolong excuse silly as you can get. What other centers are getting moved to wing to prolong their careers?

They moved him to wing to give him more offensive freedom which is why Couturier pairing worked so well.

There have been tidbits dropped the last few weeks from the media hub in Toronto that the Flyers weren't to happy with the picks that Hextall made in the first round. Kypreos was the first one to directly mention it today and use Hextall by name. The team didn't feel like the picks were being optimized, that he had picked decent prospects but had let better players pass him by.

Last week there was a mention (Chris Johnson I think, can't quite remember though)about whether it was in a GMs favour to draft college players and Europeans and pass on CHL players to enable a longer development time and whether using that tactic in the first round could cost you a job.

Bob Mackenzie wasn't very high on Frost in his review of the Canadian WJ team and someone remarked that they didn't know if he could play at that level of competition.

Just a few things I'm hearing and food for thought.
- mayorofangrytown

Hard to love the fact that we traded back for German Rubtsov...

I think I remember hearing someone mention how he got hacked and wacked so much that it would help him last longer. Didn't Giroux take a huge amount of face-offs still last year and this year? I just find that laughable. Maybe wear and tear defensively I can accept.
- Glak18

I don’t buy the wear and tear thing either. Wingers have to get in the way and often block point shots. They also do the majority of board work, which could lead to taking a check at anytime. Last, wingers do most of the forchecking, which is a lot of energy used to skate. If Giroux is getting hacked and whacked at center, was the reason to move him to wing, well that’s a dumb excuse. Giroux is likely to hang on to the puck no matter what position he plays, which is going to lead to him getting whacked.

I don’t buy the wear and tear thing either. Wingers have to get in the way and often block point shots. They also do the majority of board work, which could lead to taking a check at anytime. Last, wingers do most of the forchecking, which is a lot of energy used to skate. If Giroux is getting hacked and whacked at center, was the reason to move him to wing, well that’s a dumb excuse. Giroux is likely to hang on to the puck no matter what position he plays, which is going to lead to him getting whacked.
- SuperSchennBros

And if you play him with players that can draw half of more of that attention then you're going to have the same results as or better than last year.

When Schenn and Raffl are your wingers and their only job is to drive the net and clean up garbage then of course Giroux is going to get more attention and abuse. He's not coming close to the season he had last year if Filppula is his center instead of Couturier.

Panthers and canes got whacked

And if you play him with players that can draw half of more of that attention then you're going to have the same results as or better than last year.

When Schenn and Raffl are your wingers and their only job is to drive the net and clean up garbage then of course Giroux is going to get more attention and abuse. He's not coming close to the season he had last year if Filppula is his center instead of Couturier.
- easY

If the idea is to get Giroux to focus more on his offense, I get it. Thinking the wing keeps him more healthy is ridiculous

I would imagine we would have to take Marleau. But hes got a full nmc. They have some wiggle room this year (5.7 million) but starting next year imagine matrhews at 10 marner at 8 and Gardiner at 5.5 they need to clear even with the cap going up about 8 million. Marleau would go a long way
- Tfaehner

If they really think they can win it this year, we shouldn’t have to take back squat. The Flyers can retain half of Simmonds deal since it’s about to expire and they can easily afford to retain one million on Gudas too. This would leave Toronto with Gudas at 2.45 million going into 19-20 which they can afford.

AMAC has returned to his old passive, falling down ways. Flyers need the Amac of last year. Kind of the season, the fact AMACS play means so much when he should be a 5-7 D

Andrew MacDonald was at the end of a 1:01 shift when Monahan scored the game-tying goal. Standing in front of the crease, he watched Tkachuk’s shot from outside the circle and then proceeded to observe Monahan clean up the rebound in front of the crease, posing as an innocent bystander.

AMAC has returned to his old passive, falling down ways. Flyers need the Amac of last year. Kind of the season, the fact AMACS play means so much when he should be a 5-7 D

Andrew MacDonald was at the end of a 1:01 shift when Monahan scored the game-tying goal. Standing in front of the crease, he watched Tkachuk’s shot from outside the circle and then proceeded to observe Monahan clean up the rebound in front of the crease, posing as an innocent bystander.
- wcorvette

Weise began the downfall by failing to pressure Tkachuk along the half wall. Then AMac basically stood there in the slot doing absolutely nothing as Monahan pounced on the rebound and scored.

When you have to rely on players like Weise and AMac to lock down a lead in the last minute, it pretty much shows you where this team is at. Good teams have better options in these situations, sadly the Flyers aren’t a good team.

Weise began the downfall by failing to pressure Tkachuk along the half wall. Then AMac basically stood there in the slot doing absolutely nothing as Monahan pounced on the rebound and scored.

When you have to rely on players like Weise and AMac to lock down a lead in the last minute, it pretty much shows you where this team is at. Good teams have better options in these situations, sadly the Flyers aren’t a good team.
- BiggE

yup and yup

on the bright side-

The Leafs played Tampa in a heavyweight fight, their blog has less comments than this blog. Team negative is winning... at least we are winning something

yup and yup

on the bright side-

The Leafs played Tampa in a heavyweight fight, their blog has less comments than this blog. Team negative is winning... at least we are winning something
- wcorvette

Yeah, but I don’t think we are being negative when saying that good teams have better options than AMac and Weise to use in last minute/close game situations. It’s just fact.

Yeah, but I don’t think we are being negative when saying that good teams have better options than AMac and Weise to use in last minute/close game situations. It’s just fact.
- BiggE

for sure, I still think the Flyers will go on a run, most of the Eastern Conference teams are just not that good, similar to the Flyers, lots of holes and some of them don't have the future talent the Flyers do. The Pens blog yesteray was telling, after they thought they were headed in the right direction the Hawks exposed them. In some ways I can't wait for Sid and Geno to be less relevant, they are thin on the farm and on D on the big club. They might take an AMAC

Gary Robert former NHL'er...

I would like to come back for just a few shifts against Brad Marchand

I'm sorry I find the prolong excuse silly as you can get. What other centers are getting moved to wing to prolong their careers?

They moved him to wing to give him more offensive freedom which is why Couturier pairing worked so well.
- Glak18

It's an individual situation. Nothing to do with offensive freedom in my opinion. It's about wear and tear.