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EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
Your probably right . However Stans been hosed in every deal he has made.
- Taylorst1



I like the Strome trade
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Dec 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
You bring up some good points. I Still think toews has value and it's just finding the right partner.


Matthews would have a great opportunity to come to a original 6 team play alongside Kane and he could be the future captain.

But I'd rather see Matthews over panarin.

- Taylorst1

Uh, he already plays on an original 6 team. And the Hawks (or any other team) can offer sheet the world but, if he doesn't accept and sign the offer it means nothing more then a team tried.

Leafs would/will move Nylander to clear up cap space before they let Matthews walk.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
Uh, he already plays on an original 6 team. And the Hawks (or any other team) can offer sheet the world but, if he doesn't accept and sign the offer it means nothing more then a team tried.

Leafs would/will move Nylander to clear up cap space before they let Matthews walk.

- Rota's Rooter


I'd take that moral victory right now
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
Looking at the big picture as a whole , you have strome still learning but future potential he centers d cat and ?

Toews he centers saad ? And he slides down to a number 2 or 3

So who centers Kane and PANARIN? You see where this is going . Chicago needs a,top center and if you add panarin you still need another top 6 player like a Skinner to play along strome and d cat and who then fills in alongside Toews and saad ? Maybe a guy like stone ? But for Chicago to really fix their issues and roll at least 3 solid lines they need cap space to make a huge splash to fix those areas.

- Taylorst1


C'MON Man! We're getting Hughes!!

riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
It might happen anyway
- gazza53

You can tix 17 rows up center ice for less than parking...
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
I like the Strome trade
- EnzoD



I do too. Strome is young needs time but he has shown skill and he is scoring. Problem is d cat and Kane have not been left intact together to all play together and build chemistry.

Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 3:53 PM ET
C'MON Man! We're getting Hughes!!

- Chunk



Their is no guarantee we get him and if we do how or will he be everything and more. I'd rather see Chicago acquire Matthews who is a stud and young as well as proven. Even if that meant giving up 4 1st rounders. The odds of getting that type of player 1 time let alone 4 are next to nothing,
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 3:55 PM ET
I'd take that moral victory right now
- riozzo



Same here . Stan hasn't done anything to make the fans feel excited or reassured he is willing to make that kinda splash. It's all spit balls and dumpster diving
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Dec 14 @ 3:56 PM ET
Good point. Chicago hasn't done much trading with Toronto other than us getting hosed on the Richard Panick deal. If Chicago is going to worry about not upsetting a team because Chicago wants to better it's team and that can't meet that match or has to pony up more cash to retain said asset, it's business .
- Taylorst1

What? Has Jeremy Morin become a core member of the Leafs?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
Their is no guarantee we get him and if we do how or will he be everything and more. I'd rather see Chicago acquire Matthews who is a stud and young as well as proven. Even if that meant giving up 4 1st rounders. The odds of getting that type of player 1 time let alone 4 are next to nothing,
- Taylorst1


We don't, that was the joke. Everyone would like Matthews, but without KNOWING that you can rid yourself of all of the expensive contracts on the team, how does that make you any better than you are now? you still would have a woefully deficient D-corps.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Looking at the big picture as a whole , you have strome still learning but future potential he centers d cat and ?

Toews he centers saad ? And he slides down to a number 2 or 3

So who centers Kane and PANARIN? You see where this is going . Chicago needs a,top center and if you add panarin you still need another top 6 player like a Skinner to play along strome and d cat and who then fills in alongside Toews and saad ? Maybe a guy like stone ? But for Chicago to really fix their issues and roll at least 3 solid lines they need cap space to make a huge splash to fix those areas.

- Taylorst1


Strome becomes the 1B center and Barrett is Dave Bolland V2 unless they get Hughes.
steve-hist-sdc
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.30.2016

Dec 14 @ 4:07 PM ET
Playing devils advocate here, why TF would Panarin consider us again considering we traded him to Columbus...
He was pissed bc he loved Chicago, buuuuuuuut why go back to your ex who dumped you to Ohio?

- Slofire94


You make your agent demand an NMC this time around...
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Dec 14 @ 4:09 PM ET
I really don't see the Hawks dumping 10 million on Panarin.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they sit on cap space next year. Also, Toronto is going to have a cap problem next year so someone sheeting Matthews and/or Marner would be hilarious. Or Laine, do the Jets have 10 or 11 million free? And i think those are better spends then Panarin if they're going to throw stupid money around this summer.

Sup reload. Stan can be a total ass this summer and greatly entertain us by irritating the whole league. Can you imagone the convention after that?

- fattybeef

If Laine and Matthews/Marner didn't require giving up compensation of 4 first round picks, I would agree that they would be better spends.
steve-hist-sdc
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.30.2016

Dec 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
Any idiot would be able to see the plan as soon as next season if we were to draft say Hughes and offload the old core for more future assets. You really think this fan base would abandon the team? The point is to rebuild and contend again ASAP. That’s how you fill up the seats.
- SimpleJack


They have in the past ... hard to sell that idea as it ends up looking like a philosophy not as a viable building plan -or put another way, there has to be more to it than trying to sell a fan base on the idea of banking prospects. It isn't the same thing as a Certificate of Deposit.

Why do I think that if they do sign any UFA's of significance -that would be Panarin. That being I think he would be the only one to have his agent pick up the phone.

I don't buy the 'ends up in NY' narrative as imho it is solely a product of East coast blogger types who think everything only ever happens there...
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
probably what Toronto is thinking about is that no matter who gets traded Chicago has made every other team better.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
We don't, that was the joke. Everyone would like Matthews, but without KNOWING that you can rid yourself of all of the expensive contracts on the team, how does that make you any better than you are now? you still would have a woefully deficient D-corps.
- Chunk


IMO I do think Chicago's young promising defenseman aren't that far away from making their defensive liabilities the thing of the past,

Gustafson, rutta, manning are all a complete joke. Murphy I'm not sold on him just because Stan said he was a younger version of hammer, hmmmm that's far from the truth Seabrook and Keith father time has caught up with them.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
If Laine and Matthews/Marner didn't require giving up compensation of 4 first round picks, I would agree that they would be better spends.
- 333inthe3rd


Matthews worth 4 first rounders. Gotta give to get and hes arguably the second best player in the NHL.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
We don't, that was the joke. Everyone would like Matthews, but without KNOWING that you can rid yourself of all of the expensive contracts on the team, how does that make you any better than you are now? you still would have a woefully deficient D-corps.
- Chunk


Toronto's are pretty bad and they winning
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
Strome becomes the 1B center and Barrett is Dave Bolland V2 unless they get Hughes.
- fattybeef


IMO Strome is your number 3 guy maybe 2 but he is still developing.


Chicago needs to have 4 legitimate centers all of which great on face offs nd all play good 2 way hockey with 2 being top 6 legitimate talent.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
IMO Strome is your number 3 guy maybe 2 but he is still developing.


Chicago needs to have 4 legitimate centers all of which great on face offs nd all play good 2 way hockey with 2 being top 6 legitimate talent.

- Taylorst1


Theyve never had all of those things any of the years they won.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
Theyve never had all of those things any of the years they won.
- fattybeef


Yes they did 2010 and 2015 . 2013 team they went out and grabbed handzus.

2010 and 2015 Chicago was able to roll 4 solid solid consistent lines, 2013 was different they started out with what 26 games without a loss in a 48 game season .

But if you look at teams that are true they roll 4 solid lines and are strong down the middle.


Kane needs top 6 quality players. This playing with kampf and anisomov is a joke those guys either too slow or just not talented to play with him and be affective for him or themselves. Strome has the talent just needs time.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 14 @ 4:42 PM ET
Theyve never had all of those things any of the years they won.
- fattybeef



Anddddd Strome's ceiling is a #1 center. I'd say he probably ends up a high end #2 center.

I still can't believe AZ made that trade without at least giving Strome 80-100 regular season NHL games first.

Since this season is done the line juggling needs to stop too. Sikura Perlini and Hayden need to be in the lineup every game the rest of the way. Evaluate and determine which have a future with the team.

It should be Kane Strome Dcat for the rest of the year too.

bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
Yes they did 2010 and 2015 . 2013 team they went out and grabbed handzus.

2010 and 2015 Chicago was able to roll 4 solid solid consistent lines, 2013 was different they started out with what 26 games without a loss in a 48 game season .

But if you look at teams that are true they roll 4 solid lines and are strong down the middle.


Kane needs top 6 quality players. This playing with kampf and anisomov is a joke those guys either too slow or just not talented to play with him and be affective for him or themselves. Strome has the talent just needs time.

- Taylorst1


2013? Toews Handzus Bolland (Ghost of) and Kruger. Hardly say that is stacked down the middle.

2010 Toews Sharp Bolland Madden.

2015 Toews Richards Vermette Kruger

2010 probably had the best Center depth. Handzus and Richards aren't legit 2Cs.


6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 14 @ 4:49 PM ET
yeah Enzo but it's usually for the sex.
- savvyone-1



Hey savvy, I know of a guy who stopped by his ex-wife's place to drop off child support money. And son of a female dog, 9 months later he had more childs support to pay
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Dec 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
McJesus with 300 career NHL points at age 21.....
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