There is ZERO chance of Matthews coming here. I'd absolutely LOVE it and would even be willing to consider giving up the four first round picks to make it happen but there is about as much chance of us trading Seabrook to a team not having to eat ANY salary, take a bad contract back, AND get a draft pick/prospect back in return.

Someone trying to sign Matthews or any other RFA to an Offer sheet only makes sense if they are a team that is stocked with young talent and has plenty of cap room left to make it work. That's why a lot of people think AZ would make A LOT of sense to sign him to a ridiculous contract offer sheet this offseason. Local kid that would provide a HUGE boost the ticket sales and product of the team to pair with Clayton Keller. They have A LOT of their young guys locked up to good deals already. They just need to add the bonafide STAR to their team and they could turn it around. Not saying it WILL happen but its definitely more possible than us signing him.



Call me crazy, and I'm sure you will, but I think we're on our way to having 3 out of the 4 needed to be strong up the middle with Toews, Strome, and Kampf. If one of Barratt, Wise, Kurashev, etc. can step up to be that 3rd Center you're looking at a strong group up the middle IMO.

Add in possibily Panarin and a Top 3-5 draft pick winger (or maybe even a Center) to go along with the Defensive prospects this team has and you could have something going for the future.

Just my two cents though
- Savetheembers33

I think we all have great ideas , but realistically looking at each players strengths and weaknesses especially the current top 6 talent and what's in the pipe line. Kahuan, sikura where do they fit in ? Strome maybe another year he might be more of s complete a reliable top 6 c but for now I see him as your 3c with debrincant and sikura . Toews and saad just don't work consistently Kane if paired with panarin who then centers that line ? So toews needs a guy like stone to ride shot gun and maybe a sniper like Skinner.


But the whole point was they need to address a lot of areas and each move then needs to make sense.
Maybe saad gets moved and they realize if their keeping toews he needs different and consistent players for sure not Hayden that's retarded putting him with toews no real skill just dumps and hits nothing else from him.

I would imagine that Shovel Face has been watching the secondary market and realizes that there is trouble ahead for the franchise. Tickets are the cheapest they have been in 11 years. No way will the casual fan renew any sort of season ticket plan if they are being sold way under face in the alternative markets.

Toews to me use to be a 1c but he isn't that type of player anymore he plays a different style then Kane.

Kane needs some one like a Elias Patterson, or a Nugent Hopkins, , Duchene, Matthews that to me is what Chicago needs you can call it 1c or 2c but toews won't be here forever and his play with the exception if this year has dropped. Just saying strome is our future hopefully but after that who does this team then have ?

If Stan brings in panarin who then centers him and kane ? And who plays toews right wing ? Sikura , strome and d cat im fine with but their are holes to fill .

IMO and it's been reported anisomov won't be here , he would have to traded to gain cap space and is probably traded in some package deal. That's why Chicago needs a top 6c
- Taylorst1

Alright, but Toews is still putting up points (0.82/g), still good defensively, good at the dot. You say that his style of play has changed, or that his style doesn't mesh with Kane's? he hasn't extensively played with Kane in ages.

I get it. The top new kids coming into the league are fast and playmakers. That does not mean Toews is any less effective (or important). Even right now, I'd rather have Toews than RNH, Duchene, or Petterson (if we are looking at them head to head - I see him as a more complete player). The key is to identify and draft/sign the new and better players. You can't dump Toews in the hopes that you can sign a Matthews type.

There is ZERO chance of Matthews coming here. I'd absolutely LOVE it and would even be willing to consider giving up the four first round picks to make it happen but there is about as much chance of us trading Seabrook to a team not having to eat ANY salary, take a bad contract back, AND get a draft pick/prospect back in return.

Someone trying to sign Matthews or any other RFA to an Offer sheet only makes sense if they are a team that is stocked with young talent and has plenty of cap room left to make it work. That's why a lot of people think AZ would make A LOT of sense to sign him to a ridiculous contract offer sheet this offseason. Local kid that would provide a HUGE boost the ticket sales and product of the team to pair with Clayton Keller. They have A LOT of their young guys locked up to good deals already. They just need to add the bonafide STAR to their team and they could turn it around. Not saying it WILL happen but its definitely more possible than us signing him.



Call me crazy, and I'm sure you will, but I think we're on our way to having 3 out of the 4 needed to be strong up the middle with Toews, Strome, and Kampf. If one of Barratt, Wise, Kurashev, etc. can step up to be that 3rd Center you're looking at a strong group up the middle IMO.

Add in possibily Panarin and a Top 3-5 draft pick winger (or maybe even a Center) to go along with the Defensive prospects this team has and you could have something going for the future.

Just my two cents though
- Savetheembers33

I'm with you here. I think Toews, Strome, 3C, Kampf would be really good. Lose AA and get a winger for the top 6 that can either 1) Match with Kane well or 2) someone that has speed/playmaking hands to join Toews. I really like Kurashev.

Alright, but Toews is still putting up points (0.82/g), still good defensively, good at the dot. You say that his style of play has changed, or that his style doesn't mesh with Kane's? he hasn't extensively played with Kane in ages.

I get it. The top new kids coming into the league are fast and playmakers. That does not mean Toews is any less effective (or important). Even right now, I'd rather have Toews than RNH, Duchene, or Petterson (if we are looking at them head to head - I see him as a more complete player). The key is to identify and draft/sign the new and better players. You can't dump Toews in the hopes that you can sign a Matthews type.
- Chunk

I think this year Toews would be back around that 0.9 to 0.95 PPG pace if he had a 2010-2015 Hossa or Sharp on his wing. No offense to guys like Kahun, Perlini, Hayden, etc.. but they are much easier to defend than some of the guys we used to have.

Alright, but Toews is still putting up points (0.82/g), still good defensively, good at the dot. You say that his style of play has changed, or that his style doesn't mesh with Kane's? he hasn't extensively played with Kane in ages.

I get it. The top new kids coming into the league are fast and playmakers. That does not mean Toews is any less effective (or important). Even right now, I'd rather have Toews than RNH, Duchene, or Petterson (if we are looking at them head to head - I see him as a more complete player). The key is to identify and draft/sign the new and better players. You can't dump Toews in the hopes that you can sign a Matthews type.
- Chunk

Toews hasn't been the same player he was 5 years ago. Sure this year he has been more productive , but he hasn't shown like years past to take over a game or for that matter as the captain of the team I feel he bears some responsibility to fire up and lead this team and his mealy mouth comments show he has lost his confidence as well as his ability.

Why pay a 31 year old 10.5 million when if you can move him now would be then right time you get cap space , picks and prospects.

Stans problem among many is he sat on players to long and when those players really showed regression he then had a hard time either moving them alone and had to send off assets or their value because he waited to long diminished the significance of what they could have gotten if he did it a year or 2 sooner.

I am fine with toews being traded now as a pose to 2 years from now trying to move that contract when he would be 33 or 34.

Remember debrincant will be due for a raise after next year then the following year is strome , Keith Seabrook if still here eat up 12 million.

Toews is the one who right now gets you more than a Keith or Seabrook if Kane stays.

I'm with you here. I think Toews, Strome, 3C, Kampf would be really good. Lose AA and get a winger for the top 6 that can either 1) Match with Kane well or 2) someone that has speed/playmaking hands to join Toews. I really like Kurashev.
- breadbag

IMO this team is not going to get better any time soon as long as where stuck holding onto guys like toews, Seabrook, Keith. The rebuild needs to progress faster and it won't if we continue to hold onto those guys, because then any value the longer they stay the harder it becomes while losing spots for any young players to come up as well as sitting on a combined 33 million tied up into 4 guys not including they young players who will command a raise.

So because Stan is stuck with guys who father time has caught up with them we don't get better as a team as a whole.


Loyalty only goes so far all these players where rewarded for their significant contributions and that's where loyalty ends.

Have a feeling the Hawks will win tonight. They have a little momentum from the win the other night and the Jets are playing the second of a back to back with their backup goalie Brossoit in net (though he did beat the Hawks on Tuesday).

Wonder if Buff will receive any retribution for that hit on Debrincat near the end of the Tuesday game. Maybe some fistacuffs between him and Martinsen or Hayden?

Wonder if Buff will receive any retribution for that hit on Debrincat near the end of the Tuesday game. Maybe some fistacuffs between him and Martinsen or Hayden?
- boilermaker100

One of my favorite moments versus Pittsburgh the other night was Malkin losing an edge and slamming his face into Murphy.
We STILL owe Malkin though, IMHO.

Toews hasn't been the same player he was 5 years ago. Sure this year he has been more productive , but he hasn't shown like years past to take over a game or for that matter as the captain of the team I feel he bears some responsibility to fire up and lead this team and his mealy mouth comments show he has lost his confidence as well as his ability.

Why pay a 31 year old 10.5 million when if you can move him now would be then right time you get cap space , picks and prospects.

Stans problem among many is he sat on players to long and when those players really showed regression he then had a hard time either moving them alone and had to send off assets or their value because he waited to long diminished the significance of what they could have gotten if he did it a year or 2 sooner.

I am fine with toews being traded now as a pose to 2 years from now trying to move that contract when he would be 33 or 34.

Remember debrincant will be due for a raise after next year then the following year is strome , Keith Seabrook if still here eat up 12 million.

Toews is the one who right now gets you more than a Keith or Seabrook if Kane stays.
- Taylorst1

the championship era will come to a crashing close: one or both will be gone by the start of the 2020 season. Craw will be gone to...i stated for months Delia will be your starting goalie by then. He is maturing and demonstrating great promise...BTW he is seeing 30-40 shots per game in rck; he will fit right in here.

Wonder if Buff will receive any retribution for that hit on Debrincat near the end of the Tuesday game. Maybe some fistacuffs between him and Martinsen or Hayden?
- boilermaker100

eehh...i prefer one of those accidentally on purpose rocking hits in the flow of the play...big buff is cheap shot artist and gets away with it...

I think this year Toews would be back around that 0.9 to 0.95 PPG pace if he had a 2010-2015 Hossa or Sharp on his wing. No offense to guys like Kahun, Perlini, Hayden, etc.. but they are much easier to defend than some of the guys we used to have.
- breadbag

Which would rank him around 22nd in the league.

Toews hasn't been the same player he was 5 years ago. Sure this year he has been more productive , but he hasn't shown like years past to take over a game or for that matter as the captain of the team I feel he bears some responsibility to fire up and lead this team and his mealy mouth comments show he has lost his confidence as well as his ability.

Why pay a 31 year old 10.5 million when if you can move him now would be then right time you get cap space , picks and prospects.

Stans problem among many is he sat on players to long and when those players really showed regression he then had a hard time either moving them alone and had to send off assets or their value because he waited to long diminished the significance of what they could have gotten if he did it a year or 2 sooner.

I am fine with toews being traded now as a pose to 2 years from now trying to move that contract when he would be 33 or 34.

Remember debrincant will be due for a raise after next year then the following year is strome , Keith Seabrook if still here eat up 12 million.

Toews is the one who right now gets you more than a Keith or Seabrook if Kane stays.
- Taylorst1

Because he has a NMC ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE PLAYERS YOU WANT TO TRADE. IF HE IS NO LONGER WORTH THERE CONTRACTS HERE WHY WOULD ANOTHER TEAM WANT THEM . THIS ISNT NHL19 on a xbox

eehh...i prefer one of those accidentally on purpose rocking hits in the flow of the play...big buff is cheap shot artist and gets away with it...
- bogiedoc

That will work. But who on this team will deliver that hit?

Because he has a NMC ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE PLAYERS YOU WANT TO TRADE. OF HE IS NO LONGER WORTH THERE CONTRACTS HERE WHY WOULD ANOTHER TEAM WANT THEM . THIS ISNT NHL19 on a xbox
- Abadseed

Suggestion, lay off the CAPS and focus on your grammar.

Suggestion, lay off the CAPS and focus on your grammar.
- boilermaker100

EASY internet tough guy. My point is this poster keeps saying them same thing over and over. NO one will trade for these guys unless we give up picks and prospects or eat so much salary it’s pointless to do.

Suggestion, lay off the CAPS and focus on your grammar.
- boilermaker100

Lol.....Great !!

Off topic here......has anybody been to this Queenie's at the UC ?? I'm sure it's delicious and EXTREMELY PRICEY ??

No doubt right up McD's alley.

Kahun confident and skilled...could have 2 apples already

WPG sure looks like they’re playing the second game of a back-to-back.

WPG sure looks like they’re playing the second game of a back-to-back.
- Chief4Feathers

10 minutes in and the Hawks haven't given up a goal yet. Just like Wednesday. Looks promising so far.

10 minutes in and the Hawks haven't given up a goal yet. Just like Wednesday. Looks promising so far.
- boilermaker100

Oops!

Oops!
- boilermaker100

Yep. Toews goes to the box and its a PPG. However, I think this has been a good effort for the Hawks so far this period.

Yep. Toews goes to the box and its a PPG. However, I think this has been a good effort for the Hawks so far this period.
- Chief4Feathers

(frank)IN RIP FROM JOHNNY!!!

El Cappy-tan with the tie, 1-1. B-E-A-utiful.