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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:23 PM ET
It's not that simple, our CHL scouts don't make the final decision on who's the BPA. Managers do. We've had bad managers an head scouts moreso than we've had bad scouts.

They currently seem to have a more collective approach, maybe that's why it worked better with Pettersson? Or maybe they just got lucky?

- LeftCoaster


When the sample size is large enough, at some point you have to start questioning the scouts in that region.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:24 PM ET
Not likely, but both of our top 2 dmen right now show that it’s possible...


If you find a lost lotto ticket on the ground are you going to pick it up even though you have a higher chance of being struck by lightening?

- Nucker101


Yes of course I would pick it up but I wouldn't push some 80 year old lady out of the way and she falls down and dies an I serve time in prison to get that lotto ticket.

Seeing we were making stupid comparisons I thought I would throw in mine.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
If it was any consolation the who team was bad for 50 minutes
- VANTEL

And still picked up a point against one of the top teams, bodes well for the youngsters.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:26 PM ET
And still picked up a point against one of the top teams, bodes well for the youngsters.
- Bettmanhatesus

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yes of course I would pick it up but I wouldn't push some 80 year old lady out of the way and she falls down and dies an I serve time in prison to get that lotto ticket.

Seeing we were making stupid comparisons I thought I would throw in mine.

- VANTEL


If trading NHL scraps for picks is as painful for you as hurting an old lady then yes I would stop trading for picks too

Anybody who isn’t a long term piece should be available for a draft pick. At least with the lotto pick you have a slight chance at finding a long term piece. I’d even take another Gaudette over Granlund or another Hutton over MDZ
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:27 PM ET
And still picked up a point against one of the top teams, bodes well for the youngsters.
- Bettmanhatesus


Their resiliency is nice to see for sure.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
If trading NHL scraps for picks is as painful for you as hurting an old lady then yes I would stop trading for picks too

Anybody who isn’t a long term piece should be available for a draft pick

- Nucker101
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Sutter is long term so is Roussel and Beagle

Lets go to the new blog
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
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Sutter is long term so is Roussel and Beagle

Lets go to the new blog

- VANTEL


To me this team likely won’t be contending for a cup during the next 2-3 years after this so they should all be available for the right price. Doesn’t have to be a fire sale where a decent player like Sutter is available for a late 3rd, I’d hang up if I was offered that.


I’ll just agree to disagree, I think we both made our points.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
A Defenceman that has defensive woos . That's encouraging
- VANTEL

Tanev up the middle oops last night, solid defensive dman with defensive woos.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
Tanev up the middle oops last night, solid defensive dman with defensive woos.
- Bettmanhatesus


lol, come on now


A mistake once every few games by a guy playing against top lines every night is a lot different than a guy who flat out can't be trusted to play against top lines.



No denying OJ's offensive talent though, he'd likely be the best Canuck dman on the roster right now to use on the PP.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
Back to back at home now, 5 games in 8 nights, played 2 or 3 games more than anyone wtf is that well at least its not a sunday afternoon start , I seen a 10 am start on the road coming up
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
Back to back at home now, 5 games in 8 nights, played 2 or 3 games more than anyone wtf is that well at least its not a sunday afternoon start , I seen a 10 am start on the road coming up
- Bettmanhatesus


#BenningHatesUs
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
lol, come on now


A mistake once every few games by a guy playing against top lines every night is a lot different than a guy who flat out can't be trusted to play against top lines.



No denying OJ's offensive talent though, he'd likely be the best Canuck dman on the roster right now to use on the PP.

- Nucker101

Every dman has learning curves and your still learning at 30 years old was my point. Not many can play against top guys at 20 but if your the coilers do it anyways.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
#BenningHatesUs
- Nucker101

Wonder what the other schedules looked like
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Every dman has learning curves and your still learning at 30 years old was my point. Not many can play against top guys at 20 but if your the coilers do it anyways.
- Bettmanhatesus


Yeah, true enough. But he's had trouble in the CHL/AHL with defense. It would be another thing if he was solid defensively in at least 1 one of those leagues, at some point you have to work with what you have and embrace him as an offensive dman. Obviously you keep working with him defensively but the "Tanev with more offense" or "Hampus Lindholm 2.0" statements should probably be put to bed unless he really does a 180 defensively.

He's a talented offensive dman that hopefully can be average defensively at the NHL level, that's still a valuable player to have on your roster. Especially for the Canucks. You can always pair him with a Tanev type to bail him out.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
I find it funny that you think all the guys we draft this year will be better than all the guys we drafted last year.
- VANTEL


I find it funny that you think I think that. Here are some points I believe we can agree on:

1) Not every player selected in the amateur draft, or signed as an un-drafted free agent will play in the NHL (even the first rounders).

2) Not every player selected by the Canucks will receive an entry level contract.

3) Not every player who signs an entry level contract with the Canucks will play in the AHL regularly. Many will play in the ECHL, be loaned to Euro teams or be released at the completion of their ELC.

4) Having more competition for limited roster spots (both NHL and AHL) “should” better players making the team(s). Consequently, those who don’t make it will play back with their Junior teams, over seas or in the ECHL, or get a job on sports radio.

5) Higher picks are better than lower picks.

6) More picks are better than fewer picks.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
To me there is no BUT

Canucks attack game is fine and developing.

Their defend game stinks . Most of the problems came from soft goals or horrible D from MDZ Pouliot Hutton and Gudbrandson

Hughes will step in next year for sure but OJ is not a guarantee . I know you want to sign Karlsson but that is a huge risk. He is not worth 11 mil.

Change the Left side next year and the following two years the right side. You guys say no quick fixes so time to practice what we preach.

- VANTEL


OJ is closer to a sure thing then any LHD that we draft.
Just because something is new and shiny does not make it better.

You pointed out our Left side. Look at the right.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 3:00 PM ET
I find it funny that you think I think that. Here are some points I believe we can agree on:

1) Not every player selected in the amateur draft, or signed as an un-drafted free agent will play in the NHL (even the first rounders).

2) Not every player selected by the Canucks will receive an entry level contract.

3) Not every player who signs an entry level contract with the Canucks will play in the AHL regularly. Many will play in the ECHL, be loaned to Euro teams or be released at the completion of their ELC.

4) Having more competition for limited roster spots (both NHL and AHL) “should” better players making the team(s). Consequently, those who don’t make it will play back with their Junior teams, over seas or in the ECHL, or get a job on sports radio.

5) Higher picks are better than lower picks.

6) More picks are better than fewer picks.

- 1970vintage


New blob
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
New blob
- Nucker101


This one’s like a cozy sweater though. I mean, there are holes in the elbow, and the neckline is stretched way out of shape, but still cozy
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