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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:04 PM ET
Well, unless the Rangers eat salary on some of these deals, who would want some of these guys under contract? Kreider, Zib and Lundqvist. That is about it. Lundqvist, until he says otherwise is non conversation. Nobody wants Strome, Vesey, Smith, Staal, Shattenkirk, Skjei, Vlad. They stink. The Rangers season in the midst of ending. Whatever isn't nailed down has to go, if you're unsure if they can be retained. And in terms of Zucc and Mcquaid, it's age. Sorry. It's not personal, just business.
- tomburton99

Nah i heard no one else wants Kreider
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
No, its just dumb. You take each player individually its not black and white. Its like saying everyone who is under contract should stay regardless how bad they are.
- mdw7413

Did you just assume there are only 2 colors?




mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
Well, unless the Rangers eat salary on some of these deals, who would want some of these guys under contract? Kreider, Zib and Lundqvist. That is about it. Lundqvist, until he says otherwise is non conversation. Nobody wants Strome, Vesey, Smith, Staal, Shattenkirk, Skjei, Vlad. They stink. The Rangers season in the midst of ending. Whatever isn't nailed down has to go, if you're unsure if they can be retained. And in terms of Zucc and Mcquaid, it's age. Sorry. It's not personal, just business.
- tomburton99


I know its not personal, its dumb business
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
Did you just assume there are only 2 colors?





- TPC

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
I know its not personal, its dumb business
- mdw7413

Tell the Leafs, Kings, Blackhawks and Penguins that. It's a high risk business, but also the potential for high rewards.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:17 PM ET

- mdw7413

It's like watching a time lapse of Michael Jackson aging
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
It's like watching a time lapse of Michael Jackson aging
- eichiefs9


Thats from his song
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
Tell the Leafs, Kings, Blackhawks and Penguins that. It's a high risk business, but also the potential for high rewards.
- tomburton99



We will agree to disagree, and I would say that none of those teams got rid of every single UFA every single year, if I had to guess
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
Thats from his song
- mdw7413

Woops
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
We will agree to disagree, and I would say that none of those teams got rid of every single UFA every single year, if I had to guess
- mdw7413

Not every single year, but when when Brendan Shannahan was hired he told MLSE that the Leafs needed this...




https://www.sportsnet.ca/...th-three-five-years-pain/
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
We will agree to disagree, and I would say that none of those teams got rid of every single UFA every single year, if I had to guess
- mdw7413


all I'm saying is, if Hayes turns into our Tavares and leaves for nothing. I will kill someone.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
all I'm saying is, if Hayes turns into our Tavares and leaves for nothing. I will kill someone.
- Mtlca66


Your dirty hippy roommate?
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:49 PM ET

Your dirty hippy roommate?

- mdw7413


Just gotta find out where he lives now.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
Flyers fired Hakstol
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
all I'm saying is, if Hayes turns into our Tavares and leaves for nothing. I will kill someone.
- Mtlca66


no way they would let it happen

he's gone by the deadline without an extension being done, guaranteed
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
Flyers fired Hakstol
- jimbro83

They fired him last night and then they didn't, it was odd.
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
They fired him last night and then they didn't, it was odd.
- tomburton99


It was very NY Mets like...Sorry Jan
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 1:16 PM ET


No, its just dumb. You take each player individually its not black and white. Its like saying everyone who is under contract should stay regardless how bad they are.

- mdw7413


Trading Hayes at this point is just dumb. There is no way we get a killing for him. Getting a low first round draft choice and fodder is just a bad conceived idea. The drafted player wont even project to where is Hayes is right now for real.

Some folks have so much faith in the Rangers ability to nail draft choices. We will be in a perceptual poop hole.

Did I say it is dumb? It is! That is all.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Trading Hayes at this point is just dumb. There is no way we get a killing for him. Getting a low first round draft choice and fodder is just a bad conceived idea. The drafted player wont even project to where is Hayes is right now for real.

Some folks have so much faith in the Rangers ability to nail draft choices. We will be in a perceptual poop hole.

Did I say it is dumb? It is! That is all.

- Greschnergy#4

The Blues movd Stastny for a prospect, a 1st and 4th last year. Hayes could get that in return. He's younger and finally on pace to crack that 50 point mark. (65 point pace right now, don't expect that continue.)
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
The Blues movd Stasntey for a prospect, a 1st and 4th last year. Hayes could get that in return. He's young and finally on pace to crack that 50 point mark. (65 point pace right now, don't expect that continue.)
- tomburton99



I do expect that to continue ....
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
I do expect that to continue ....
- Greschnergy#4

Then trade him and get a nice haul for him.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
Then trade him and get a nice haul for him.
- tomburton99



The point is: you want to trade him to get a player that is him
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
The point is: you want to trade him to get a player that is him
- Greschnergy#4

Yeah pretty much, but the Rangers can get a player like him while keeping the cost down.

Edit: and hope they stumble into something into Evgeny Kuznetsov. Get lucky and get a legit first line player later in the round.
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Dec 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
The point is: you want to trade him to get a player that is him
- Greschnergy#4


i think the difference though is that hayes will probably be trending downwards by the time we're competitive again, while another prospect or pick would hopefully be entering their prime when we're competitive.

No idea how soon we'll be competitive again, but that's the view I take. I'm assuming we'll have a good hayes when it doesn't matter because we'll be bad.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 1:28 PM ET
The point is: you want to trade him to get a player that is him
- Greschnergy#4


We are going to be the Oilers or Buffalo. Look how impressive our young team is and all these draft picks!!!



Oh yeah, they suck at hockey though
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