Agree. There is no way Stan trades Keith for a 2nd alone. While, I've been more of a proponent of Bowman than many here, if that's all he gets for Keith, I'd say sayonara Stan.

While the Hawks suck, he does have some pieces like Keith, AA and Kruger, that could be interesting to some teams pushing for the playoffs or a Cup. He's also in a position to make hay and one he's rarely been in...the driver's seat.
- HawkintheD

During the time when the Hawks were forced to trade low on players or use prospects to entice teams to take on bad contracts I could give the benefit of the doubt to SB. It was tough losing TT, Johns etc. but it was understandable. The trade giving away Danault for two guys the Hawks never used was a bad trade! Now the Hawks can take on bad contracs and ask for "futures" as the reward for doing so. The Hawks can also trade veteran players to teams desperate at the TDL and willing to overpay for them. All that said it was much more enjoyable cheering on a contending team than cheering on a rebuild.

Right now to help rebuild the Hawks Kane's value is in what his return is rather than what he can do in a Blackhawk uniform. If there is a trade for Kane that is good for the Hawks' future then the Hawks should make it. UNLESS Management deem his presence in the lineup sells ticket and that ticket sales are more important then a rebuild.
- paulr

I think they want both. Rebuild the team to respectability and contention and sell tickets while doing it.

Kane leaving likely means the latter doesn't happen. I could be wrong but if the Hawks were able to trade and get a haul for Kane, I could easily seein ticket sales plummeting to the levels they were in the early to mid 2000's.

I'm hoping Corey goes LTIR never to play again
if only for himself and family, no need to retire
and miss out on the $6mil, he deserves it.

That's just part of the problem with this team. They constantly look out of sync, mentally unprepared , lack of skill and talent.

Coaching is a issue , their systems and special teams just keep getting worse and match ups colliton has no handle or understanding of the importance to creating your own luck or dictation of the game.


I think Crawford and a Keith deal is probably the only way you can move Keith for a team to swallow that contract knowing that Crawford healthy playing is the winning piece of the deal.

During the time when the Hawks were forced to trade low on players or use prospects to entice teams to take on bad contracts I could give the benefit of the doubt to SB. It was tough losing TT, Johns etc. but it was understandable. The trade giving away Danault for two guys the Hawks never used was a bad trade! Now the Hawks can take on bad contracs and ask for "futures" as the reward for doing so. The Hawks can also trade veteran players to teams desperate at the TDL and willing to overpay for them. All that said it was much more enjoyable cheering on a contending team than cheering on a rebuild.
- paulr

Well that's just dumb. Rumors Baby! Rumors!!!

Loved the response by the Hawks when Crawford got bulldozed .....oh wait there was none .#softest team in the league.
- Ace77

Martinsen and Hayden dressed so good thing those big guys who aren't very good but try super hard are in the line up.

Well that's just dumb. Rumors Baby! Rumors!!!
- HawkintheD

Even made up ones?

I think they want both. Rebuild the team to respectability and contention and sell tickets while doing it.

Kane leaving likely means the latter doesn't happen. I could be wrong but if the Hawks were able to trade and get a haul for Kane, I could easily seein ticket sales plummeting to the levels they were in the early to mid 2000's.
- HawkintheD

That's a horrible way to run a hockey team . Moving Kane would accelerate the rebuild and bring in some high picks and assets. Holding onto Kane depreciates his value and if they think he will help drive ticket sales , thats absurd, their not filling up those seasts now and its only going to get worse when fans realize this team is no better next year than this year.

Winning fixes all problems.

JL, great work!

Dont you think the asking price for Keith goes down significantly based on the record of the trade partner? Philly is in a bad spot. Why would move their best young forward for a guy like duncs at this point in his career. Now for example, we move Keith to the Leafs. Maybe we can swing a young piece back in a deal because they are arguably Duncan Keith away from a cup.

I think they want both. Rebuild the team to respectability and contention and sell tickets while doing it.

Kane leaving likely means the latter doesn't happen. I could be wrong but if the Hawks were able to trade and get a haul for Kane, I could easily seein ticket sales plummeting to the levels they were in the early to mid 2000's.
- HawkintheD

Whats a haul? Flipping JR, Belfour and Chelios did a whole lot of good. The only trade thar really paid off for them was moving Savard for Chelios and getting like for like player calibre.

Trading Kane for late first round picks which they've had meh success at doesn't help them get another elite player to fill that gap or build around.

Whats a haul? Flipping JR, Belfour and Chelios did a whole lot of good. The only trade thar really paid off for them was moving Savard for Chelios and getting like for like player calibre.

Trading Kane for late first round picks which they've had meh success at doesn't help them get another elite player to fill that gap or build around.
- fattybeef

The only way I would allow Kane to be traded for picks and maybe some depth would be if they were going to offer sheet Auston Matthews.

That's a horrible way to run a hockey team . Moving Kane would accelerate the rebuild and bring in some high picks and assets. Holding onto Kane depreciates his value and if they think he will help drive ticket sales , thats absurd, their not filling up those seasts now and its only going to get worse when fans realize this team is no better next year than this year.

Winning fixes all problems.
- Taylorst1

You don't own the team and neither do I...but if I had to guess that's the mindset, right or wrong.

Kane would be the guy I'd looked to move to potentially accelerate a rebuild but I don't see it happening. Winning fixes all, but do you think Rocky has the stomach to trade away one of his few ticket draws? I don't, but I could be wrong.

That's a horrible way to run a hockey team . Moving Kane would accelerate the rebuild and bring in some high picks and assets. Holding onto Kane depreciates his value and if they think he will help drive ticket sales , thats absurd, their not filling up those seasts now and its only going to get worse when fans realize this team is no better next year than this year.

Winning fixes all problems.
- Taylorst1

Now you know the best way to run a hockey franchise? Lmao. Maybe you're right since the hawks are getting Laine and Trouba for Keith and Saad. FFS.

Whats a haul? Flipping JR, Belfour and Chelios did a whole lot of good. The only trade thar really paid off for them was moving Savard for Chelios and getting like for like player calibre.

Trading Kane for late first round picks which they've had meh success at doesn't help them get another elite player to fill that gap or build around.
- fattybeef

Different times and those trades were engineered primarily to get rid of salary and problem children who weren't seeing things $Bill's way.

They were also trades that took back "players" vs. prospects and or picks...mostly bad players in this case.

I'm hoping Corey goes LTIR never to play again
if only for himself and family, no need to retire
and miss out on the $6mil, he deserves it.
- gazza53

Let's just hope that Corey gets well. Hockey is not worth wrecking the rest of his life. Same goes for Anisimov.

I would not even begin to consider moving Kane unless they were assured a return every bit as good as the Cowboys got for moving Hershel Walker. Then, you almost have to consider it.

"Loved the response by the Hawks when Crawford got bulldozed .....oh wait there was none .#softest team in the league."-Ace77

Yeah...too bad TommyHawk wasn't on the bench!

Carrying this over from the last blog:

For many on here it is/was a sin to be critical of Crow but for players in quick motion he loses his net. Shooters scoring easily. It is possible to have BOTH a poor D System AND poor goaltending. Not a good combo.

I wasn’t convinced that Crow was completely symptom free. As one other poster said he did not seem quite right in interviews. Didn’t look good tonight - hoping for the best for Crow.
- Z3Hawk

Please. Because you and the other posters are both Neurologists or MDs I’m sure. Regardless of what you think of Bowman, McD, or anyone in the Hawks FO, if you think that he would be back on the ice at anything less than 100% you are just foolish and full of yourself.

His play hasn’t been great, and that can be due to a 10 month layoff, horrible support from his teammates, or maybe even just not playing well and/or having doubts about himself.

It didn’t look good and this may be the end for #50

Kane is in the middle of the pack and the only Hawk in the top 50 scorers this year. When he played with Panarin he was usually near the top and went over 100 points one year. Kane was slapped in the face more than anybody else by the second worst trade in Blackhawks history. Way to treat your superstar.
- Savoy

$10.5M a season and 3 cups isn't a good way to treat him?

$10.5M a season and 3 cups isn't a good way to treat him?
- paulr

Without him there are ZERO cups!

Without him there are ZERO cups!
- nickmo2699

Same can be said about Toews, Keith, Hossa and Seabrook, no?

Now you know the best way to run a hockey franchise? Lmao. Maybe you're right since the hawks are getting Laine and Trouba for Keith and Saad. FFS.
- GPHawksfan

It's business 101.. which clearly from your comments and blowhard speech you have no real business acumen.

I never said the hawks were getting laine or trouba. Maybe you should put down the bottle.


I guess your stuck in some old world thinking as to how this team is just a year or 2 away with more junk assets and holdin onto players
Who because they won you 3 Stanley cups we owe them instead of realizing any value they have left in them you move them out and try to rebuild this team on a more solid foundation.

Oh wait your MR. KNOW IT ALL.

Same can be said about Toews, Keith, Hossa and Seabrook, no?
- paulr

Idk man, three cup runs, with Kane stepping up in very critical times. Cases can certainly be made for those guys as well, but Kane has done more than his fair share to earn 10.5 and every one of those three cups.

Loved the response by the Hawks when Crawford got bulldozed .....oh wait there was none .#softest team in the league.
- Ace77

I noticed also that absolutely no one approached Evander Kane immediately after that collision -the same Evander Kane who took extra whacks on Crawford's hands shortly before that.
What would the response been if the situation was reversed? Say one of our guys caused the same collision at the other end of the ice.

You don't own the team and neither do I...but if I had to guess that's the mindset, right or wrong.

Kane would be the guy I'd looked to move to potentially accelerate a rebuild but I don't see it happening. Winning fixes all, but do you think Rocky has the stomach to trade away one of his few ticket draws? I don't, but I could be wrong.
- HawkintheD

Then maybe it's time for Rocky to sell this franchise. He has to realize that any value the remaining core has isn't enough to keep ticket sales highmif this team keeps losing nor at their age with how many pieces this team needs would they be around to compete for a cup here.


I get the whole loyalty thing but that notion of keeping players just to fill some seats while they have been generously rewarded for their accomplishments while and not having a solidmplan in place to rebuild this team back to a contender isn't smart .

People do get turned off.