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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
Yes, the asshat reported is the one truly at fault here. But right or wrong, that reporter (who published this story in a somewhat reputable paper) has poked an already pissed off hornet nest, and hell has pretty much broken loose among the fan base.
- jmatchett383


Not like the flyers have that many quality writers to begin with (no offense bill you're obviously not included here). But where theres smoke theres usually fire. I dont think isaac or anyone else made this story up I think the flyers organization intends on firing hakstol. And I think the leading candidate is Q (if he wants the job). And why wouldn't you ? 2nd most wins in NHL history and 3 cups. Not to mention the allure he has to almost every NHL player going into an off season where we want to attract talent.

The timing may have been irresponsible but to me it's more irresponsible to have the intention of firing someone and being too soft to do it. Who cares what anyone will think about the timing? Do what you think has to be done. I want a decision maker in power .
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
If he is healthy why can't he play?

I am also thinking they were looking for best chance to win. Team needed wins.

- J35Bacher


I don't disagree, but why do baseball teams go with 5-man rotations? Why not put the pitcher out there every 3 days, especially if he's gonna get pulled after 6 innings? I mean, they're healthy, right?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
We're talking about the same fanbase that relentlessly booed Mike Richards every time he took the puck in his first game back after he was traded. You know, when he signed an 11-year contract to play with the Flyers and management decided to ship him elsewhere. Those are the fans we're talking about, right?
- jmatchett383


I was at that game. Have a picture of him vs g in the faceoff circle. They started to cheer him at the beginning the game. It wasn't until he scored that they started booing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Certainly not the fault of the Flyers. Overreaction on the part of the fans.
- Dkos


That's why I said "right or wrong." It's (probably) not the Flyers' fault this happened, but it did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:18 AM ET
I was at that game. Have a picture of him vs g in the faceoff circle. They started to cheer him at the beginning the game. It wasn't until he scored that they started booing.
- Tfaehner


No, they cheered him first first shift and cheered the video montage. He also flattened Voracek. After the montage, they booed him.

Also he didn't score that game, he assisted on Doughty's OT goal.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
No, they cheered him first first shift and cheered the video montage. He also flattened Voracek. After the montage, they booed him.

Also he didn't score that game, he assisted on Doughty's OT goal.

- jmatchett383


Assisted scored you get the point. But started as a cheer and than went to boo.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 17 @ 11:20 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:20 AM ET
I don't disagree, but why do baseball teams go with 5-man rotations? Why not put the pitcher out there every 3 days, especially if he's gonna get pulled after 6 innings? I mean, they're healthy, right?
- jmatchett383



Can't compare sports.

If he was deemed healthy I am ok with it.

Also this is a player who hasn't played much this year so there shouldn't be that wear yet.

i understand what people say just don;t feel like it was Hakstols fault.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
- arichardson22



Yep.

Were reaching 500 posts today boys.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
I know I was trying to build a foundation for an constructive conversation rather than talking while missing each other’s points
- Shrike


I know. Look, I don't think Hakstol is the right man for the job right now and I wanted him gone before last season. But I'm not gonna rip the guy constantly because what's the point?

Also, please stop making it the Flyers vs. the fans. The Flyers fired Hextall because their fans were losing interest, so that's not the case.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
Yep.

Were reaching 500 posts today boys.

- J35Bacher

opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
- arichardson22



Would rather see this then Provy + Frost for Quick.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
- arichardson22



Right or wrong.

If he is up I want him to play. Does not good to just sit unless this is a one game thing for Elliott to be back for Thursday
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
Assisted scored you get the point. But started as a cheer and than went to boo.
- Tfaehner


Yeah. Assisted in OT, at the end of the game.

They booed him throughout the 2nd and 3rd.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Dec 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Carter Hart recalled. I don't agree with this move, the way this team is playing the Flyers are going to ruin this kid.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Carter Hart recalled. I don't agree with this move, the way this team is playing the Flyers are going to ruin this kid.
- FreshFlyer


I assume Lyon will still start. Stoly on ir. Neuvirth on paternity. Elliot still out.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
- arichardson22


I think we all agreed that Hart shouldn't be called up unless there are at least 3 of our goalies injured (or unable to play).

Well...here we are.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Carter Hart has been called up boys
- arichardson22

showcasing him for a trade
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
I know. Look, I don't think Hakstol is the right man for the job right now and I wanted him gone before last season. But I'm not gonna rip the guy constantly because what's the point?

Also, please stop making it the Flyers vs. the fans. The Flyers fired Hextall because their fans were losing interest, so that's not the case.

- jmatchett383



Kind of weird but hakstol was able to get to the playoffs with probably lesser talent then the team he has today.

I think the change is need to just change the optics. Yes he is the scape goat and it might not work but maybe it does and gets this team going.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Why try to sell something that, right or wrong, a majority of people don’t want to buy?

“Give people what they want, and they will come out to see it.”
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Carter Hart recalled. I don't agree with this move, the way this team is playing the Flyers are going to ruin this kid.
- FreshFlyer


Would you prefer they sign the guy in Section 104 and have him backup Lyon? What's the alternative choice?
flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
showcasing him for a trade
- Crimsoninja


I hope Isaac didnt report this
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
Carter Hart recalled. I don't agree with this move, the way this team is playing the Flyers are going to ruin this kid.
- FreshFlyer



Well they kind of needed a goalie.

Neuvirth out
Elliott out
Stolarz out

It could just be a one game thing if Elliott or Neuvirth are back thursday
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Dec 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
The rough part is that one also signs his or her family up for that roller coaster ride, too. No matter what anyone may say, money doesn't make up for things that are hurtful to the people you love. Today's social media age is especially brutal and downright inhuman at times.


Thank you, Bill.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
Why try to sell something that, right or wrong, a majority of people don’t want to buy?

“Give people what they want, and they will come out to see it.”

- Shrike


I think they will fire Hakstol soon. But I think they want to have a plan going forward, and they want to get their ducks in a row.
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