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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 18 @ 1:32 PM ET
So you expect Skinner to be here next year? They didn't play together for like 6 games this year.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I like eggs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbqSoRaNicw
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
yes and I loved the pass to skinner but without skinner this teams a bottom dweller. skinner makes his teammates better not jack.
- MLew65

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
jt miller might be on the trade block


discuss

- homiedclown


Love it, for not a 1st.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
They did on the pp.....


🖕🏻

- dadeadhead



Touche
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
Skinner is on pace for his best season ever.

Jack would seem to be the reason why, no?

Did you see the assists on Skinner's goals on Sunday?

- jcragcrumple


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:39 PM ET
ror needed sam to produce last season

a fact the skunk haters ignore

- homiedclown


Right and sam lovers , can't see that ror helped sam produce?
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
jt miller might be on the trade block


discuss

- homiedclown

Tampa is going to need a lot of cap help to sign point, 3 defensemen and 3 other forwards next year. They have about 9m in space after this year to do it. Then the year after they have to sign vasy. They’re (frank)ed if they don’t unload a couple contracts. I could see them taking a cap dump that expires after this season and something measly just to get it done. They are prime for poaching someone like him right now. Do it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
Or that Reinhart was actually producing on the 3rd line, something Pommer still has been unable to do...
- RhinoFan


When was this?

Sam was producing like a 36 year old , when being 23 years old and playing on non- eichel lines
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 18 @ 1:41 PM ET

- TheSabresTaco

How did you get ahold of my family portrait?
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
Right and sam lovers , can't see that ror helped sam produce?
- Boss34


I hate everyone equally
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
Of course he does, and will for anyone.

No one has said he’s a complete bust of a player.

People have said he’s a complete bust of a 2nd overall pick when not playing with Jack Eichel, which for the most part has been pretty true.

Honest question, Sabres don’t finish last in ‘15 and end up with Dylan Strome.

What kind of production does Sam have the last 4 years?

- sbroads24


I can look it up if you don't believe me but I've seen everything from "biggest 2nd overall bust ever" to "he brings nothing to that line at all" (correct me I believe that you said this a couple weeks back).

Samson's production does get an uptick with Eichel, as does every other player, the fact is that he produces more in that position than anyone else, consistently.

What would his production have been with Strome? Who knows, who cares. What would AM's production be if he were drafted by the Oilers and not the Leafs?

The point is he's the best RW we have, he's vastly outplayed the others that have fit into that spot other than Pommer who can't maintain it.

He is a good player that gets marginalized constantly. I wonder if he breaks 75pts if he'll still be just a bust without Eichel. I doubt anything changes. The narrative is too attractive to some.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
Tampa is going to need a lot of cap help to sign point, 3 defensemen and 3 other forwards next year. They have about 9m in space after this year to do it. Then the year after they have to sign vasy. They’re (frank)ed if they don’t unload a couple contracts. I could see them taking a cap dump that expires after this season and something measly just to get it done. They are prime for poaching someone like him right now. Do it.
- TheHank


They'll find a way to get rid of Callahan because Arizona will inevitably take him for a 2nd round pick. Because (frank) you Arizona.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:43 PM ET
Point's cap hit is less than 700K. el oh el.

9 Mil in space and Point is taking at least 7M. have (frank)ing fun with that one.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
But how do you feel about bus drivers? They're people too, ya know. Except for Mrs. Dalkin, she was an actual bridge troll.
- TheSabresTaco


I just hate poor people. Bus drivers are poor, so I don't care about their plight.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
How did you get ahold of my family portrait?
- TheHank


Had no idea you were related to so many leaf fans.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
Right and sam lovers , can't see that ror helped sam produce?
- Boss34


can't we all agree that Hockey is a team sport? you can't have one without the other.... That line is playing very well as one unit. great to see
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
aside from clank jokes

show 1 instance

just 1

- homiedclown



Kanes the best sabre
Risto is a 2nd pairing d


We all make statements.

I stand by mine.

Sam is playing well with eichel.

Hope he proves to be a great player that carrys an nhl line
#2 overall pick.

He didnt pick himself , but could make himself a better player
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
I hate everyone equally
- mattmoulson


I like it, equal opportunity.....
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
When was this?

Sam was producing like a 36 year old , when being 23 years old and playing on non- eichel lines

- Boss34


I will explain when you are older
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:48 PM ET
I just hate poor people. Bus drivers are poor, so I don't care about their plight.
- RhinoFan


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 1:48 PM ET
i am also curious... does Pommer have a point while not on Jack's wing? last i checked that would be considered elevating someones game
- SabresFaninIndiana



Pommer 9 goals 9 assists
The great EK9 10 goals and 10 assists.

And pommer hasn't recorded a point in weeks.

Ek9 was so great here in some eyes- on eichels line
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 18 @ 1:49 PM ET

Hope he proves to be a great player that carrys an nhl line
#2 overall pick.

He didnt pick himself , but could make himself a better player

- Boss34

71 pts in his last 78 gp
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
I can look it up if you don't believe me but I've seen everything from "biggest 2nd overall bust ever" to "he brings nothing to that line at all" (correct me I believe that you said this a couple weeks back).

Samson's production does get an uptick with Eichel, as does every other player, the fact is that he produces more in that position than anyone else, consistently.

What would his production have been with Strome? Who knows, who cares. What would AM's production be if he were drafted by the Oilers and not the Leafs?

The point is he's the best RW we have, he's vastly outplayed the others that have fit into that spot other than Pommer who can't maintain it.

He is a good player that gets marginalized constantly. I wonder if he breaks 75pts if he'll still be just a bust without Eichel. I doubt anything changes. The narrative is too attractive to some.

- RhinoFan

Nah, he’s slightly outplayed Pominville. Pominville was a PPG player on that line and had multiple huge goals. Like against Minnesota, Montreal etc.

The problem people have with Sam is every time he’s put on his OWN line, and expected to produce (Like a second overall pick should be able to) he’s fallen on his face.

He’s been great this year with Jack. I’m happy for him, and don’t want to break them up.

But anyone who complains about secondary scoring can point to the 23 year old top pick as one of the reasons for that
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
Sabres' hot streaks:
Jack Eichel - 9 goals, 13 points in 6 games
Jeff Skinner - 10 goals, 14 points in 14 games
Sam Reinhart - 5 goals, 11 points in 10 games
Rasmus Dahlin - 4 assists, 5 points in 2 games
Rasmus Ristolainen - 6 assists in 6 games https://t.co/6sL8smjEh2

Sabres' cold streaks:
Vladimir Sobotka - 0 goals, 1 assist in 18 games
Kyle Okposo - 0 goals, 1 assist in 12 games
Conor Sheary - 0 goals in 14 games
Jason Pominville - 0 points in 10 games https://t.co/mtY4MODVb7

Clearly our top line is the only one doing anything. 18, 12, 14 and 10 games with no goals for those four with 'cold streaks' is ridiculous. That is $18m in cap space not producing.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
Kanes the best sabre
Risto is a 2nd pairing d


We all make statements.

I stand by mine.

Sam is playing well with eichel.

Hope he proves to be a great player that carrys an nhl line
#2 overall pick.

He didnt pick himself , but could make himself a better player

- Boss34


I respect yuur opinion, however maybe Sam is never going to be a leader, maybe he is more of a skilled supporting role guy. there are only a handful players that are true take over the game players. I just don't think Sam will ever be one of them. I think he is a skilled supporting role top six winger...
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