POT meet kettle....
- gordong

I listed a bunch of facts to back up what i said

You meanwhile are apparently asserting that it’s RORs fault that 2 depth guys fought at practice
Maybe u could back that up...
except there’s no way to do so

Sure. And in another 10-15 games I can come back and show you how pedestrian they are again, right? Because it’s trending that way since actually game 10
- sbroads24

I notice his ZSR is about even now, he was getting the larsson treatment last year.

And tbh not even my biggest gripe with Sam.

This is Fitz M.O dude. Make up an argument you aren’t making and argue against it
- sbroads24

I was literally just trying to have discussion and suddenly turned into special teams don't matter 2.0

I dont understand the dig. I was offering an opinion when i said that, nothing more, because it would explain a lot, especially from a fan perspective.
- Sabresfan-365

I really liked your analogy.



Visually pleasing hockey players vs. Stat players

Sure. And in another 10-15 games I can come back and show you how pedestrian they are again, right? Because it’s trending that way since actually game 10
- sbroads24

Guys have ups & downs throughout the season

So far, his numbers are good
I guess we will see at the end of the season where they end up

He’s already scored more 5v5 goals than he did all last season though
So it’s gonna be pretty tough for u to win this debate

Guys have ups & downs throughout the season

So far, his numbers are good
I guess we will see at the end of the season where they end up

He’s already scored more 5v5 goals than he did all last season though
So it’s gonna be pretty tough for u to win this debate
- jdfitz77

It’s impossible anyways so I’m not gonna sweat it

I was literally just trying to have discussion and suddenly turned into special teams don't matter 2.0
- Sabresfan-365

U were arguing style over substance
It looks pretty,
but not everyone is Bure
Some guys just tip the puck in & jam home rebounds
I’ll take the goals however they come

If Sam is getting 8mil, then he should absolutely be traded
*unless he’s earning it away from Jack

I did forget the Skinner raise though

So make it 13mil for raises to McCabe, Pilut & Ullmark, plus the kids coming up from Rochester...
who we will be depending on whether or not we kept ROR
Actually... without ROR we will be depending on them even more now
- jdfitz77

Wait wait wait

So you’re okay with paying 7.5 for a 65 point player in ROR but not an 80 point player $8 million?

Guys have ups & downs throughout the season

So far, his numbers are good
I guess we will see at the end of the season where they end up

He’s already scored more 5v5 goals than he did all last season though
So it’s gonna be pretty tough for u to win this debate
- jdfitz77

So basically when O’Reilly struggles it’s just ups and downs, but a 10-15 game blip where he scored 80% of those 5 on 5 goals shows his true skill?

Good lord man.

He’s getting the O zone starts he was NEVER Going to get here again. Which is part of why I wanted him gone with his cap hit? Why can’t you accept that?

Somebody needs to beat Milbury's face with a golf shoe.
He is an arrogant ass.

It’s impossible anyways so I’m not gonna sweat it
- sbroads24

U should change your name to Sbroads10

It’s impossible anyways so I’m not gonna sweat it
- sbroads24

Not ready!

I really liked your analogy.



Visually pleasing hockey players vs. Stat players
- Boss34

Thanks Boss!

I've made the similar argument about a guy like Mitch Marner. Not trying to discredit his play but historically, he's been less the driver and more the passenger on the leafs. His step forward is in part development related, but a lot of it has to do with a guy named John Tavares. Problem is there's no arguing against a good ol ontario boy who's fun to watch. Soon as he makes a nice move to the middle, the fans will eat you alive.

Wait wait wait

So you’re okay with paying 7.5 for a 65 point player in ROR but not an 80 point player $8 million?
- Stripes77

You're talking about 2-way center versus an offensive winger. It's not a straight comparison imo

U were arguing style over substance
It looks pretty,
but not everyone is Bure
Some guys just tip the puck in & jam home rebounds
I’ll take the goals however they come
- jdfitz77

I wasn't arguing anything! I merely offered a guess on why a lot of people may not like reinhart. That's it! Jesus dude

Somebody needs to beat Milbury's face with a golf shoe.
He is an arrogant ass.


- IonSabres

always has been....

I wasn't arguing anything! I merely offered a guess on why a lot of people may not like reinhart. That's it! Jesus dude
- Sabresfan-365

I want to spend more time here, but I can barely a 4’d it

You're talking about 2-way center versus an offensive winger. It's not a straight comparison imo
- jcragcrumple

His 2 way game sucks.

He scores on the PP and is “good” defensively.

He is overpaid and over rated for his defensive zone play.

So basically when O’Reilly struggles it’s just ups and downs, but a 10-15 game blip where he scored 80% of those 5 on 5 goals shows his true skill?

Good lord man.

He’s getting the O zone starts he was NEVER Going to get here again. Which is part of why I wanted him gone with his cap hit? Why can’t you accept that?
- sbroads24

YOU brought up O’Reilly again
Do u not realize that?

I was just saying that Berglund was a huge disappointment
But go ahead & argue how i only feel that way bc he was part of the ROR trade

Except EVERYONE feels that way
Bc Berglund was awful

Wait wait wait

So you’re okay with paying 7.5 for a 65 point player in ROR but not an 80 point player $8 million?
- Stripes77

80? Now?
Holy poop!
Are 65 of those points secondary assists, lol?
poop, get rid of Skinner and Jack, (frank) just put Skunk st 1C then

I want to spend more time here, but I can barely a 4’d it
- sbroads24

Ok?, agreed, but not sure what that has to do anything

I'm confused.
You dismiss ROR as a link to their issues by stating one is confusing correlation (ROR being on the 3rd of 3 NHL teams with major personnel and performance issues he has been on) with causation.
But then you try to correlate part of the cause to Stastny leaving, who has been outplayed by his replacement (points above replacement) by 60%....has Stasny been in Blues practices causing the strife?
Seriously, wtf?
- IonSabres

You're misunderstanding. I'm not dismissing it. Dismissing it would be saying he's definitely not the problem. I'm simply saying you can't say either way, especially because there was already grumbling and signs of trouble before he got there. if they were first place last year and went to the conference final and then all of a sudden the only move is to bring ROR in and they're where they are now you could make more of an argument, but they've been going the wrong way for years.

80? Now?
Holy poop!
Are 65 of those points secondary assists, lol?
poop, get rid of Skinner and Jack, (frank) just put Skunk st 1C then
- IonSabres

He’s on pace for 80.

He’s been a ppg player his last 80 games.

His 2 way game sucks.

He scores on the PP and is “good” defensively.

He is overpaid and over rated for his defensive zone play.
- Stripes77

I still think both of these two points can be right:

1.) The Sabres needed a change

2.) ROR is one of the premier 2nd line centers in the league

Wait wait wait

So you’re okay with paying 7.5 for a 65 point player in ROR but not an 80 point player $8 million?
- Stripes77

Is Sam on his own line putting up these numbers?
Or benefiting from playing with Jack & Skinner?

ROR wasn’t on Jack’s line, and was given more defenseive starts than anyone in the league
He’d have been a ppg player on Jack’s wing too... probably even better