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sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
Until it comes from the NHLPA, Berglund or his agent nothing is certain.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:17 PM ET
Cap friendly has since elaborated on that point. All of the people reporting that it is mutual were citing cap friendly, but their 4 part tweet elaboration has since muddied the water in terms of what "mutual" means
- jcragcrumple



Gotcha i knew the original report was from Cap Friendly, but since CBS, USA Today and the Buffalo News all reported things similar. That the two sides spoke over a few days and decided this was the best route. Then with the Patrik Zetterberg article coming out saying the welcome him with open arms back to the Swedish team i figured it was all but a formality.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
Your right, I'm wrong, lets move on.
- hehateme

Sure, maybe do some research into it to improve your opinion on the matter. You also first started out saying you are weak if you have an addiction and are rich as moved slightly to saying well you should at least try to help yourself. So you are learning.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
Your right, I'm wrong, lets move on.
- hehateme


#respect

CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
Sure, maybe do some research into it to improve your opinion on the matter. You also first started out saying you are weak if you have an addiction and are rich as moved slightly to saying well you should at least try to help yourself. So you are learning.
- sabresfan69


Had to get the last word in and throw a few jabs. Nice
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
Could they possible put mitts with two slower guys...and one that can't stay upright. WTF
- gordong


Yeah I don’t get it .

But I’m not the coach lol
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:19 PM ET
#respect
- Boss34

He was being flippant.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Had to get the last word in and throw a few jabs. Nice
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Wouldn't this post be an attempt to get the last word it too?
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Sure, maybe do some research into it to improve your opinion on the matter. You also first started out saying you are weak if you have an addiction and are rich as moved slightly to saying well you should at least try to help yourself. So you are learning.
- sabresfan69


Why????
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Sure, maybe do some research into it to improve your opinion on the matter. You also first started out saying you are weak if you have an addiction and are rich as moved slightly to saying well you should at least try to help yourself. So you are learning.
- sabresfan69



He hate me- I give up, you're right.....

Sabres 69 - I'm not done kicking you, whether you gave up or not.

Just an observation
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yeah I don’t get it .

But I’m not the coach lol

- gerbe75pts

Mitts is doomed. He has no help. Thompson is the only player that can play to Mitts level but he is not ready. I wish Botts and Housley would give Nylander a shot on Mitts wing.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
You believe in participation trophies don't you?

I don't think anyone is weak if they get addicted to something, It happens to the strongest of people, however I think they are weak if they don't at least try to fix the problem.

again just referring to Gordon, I don't think he has really put in any effort to change....

- hehateme

It’s so much more complicated than you know.

And that’s a good thing. You’d know if you were close to it
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 20 @ 12:22 PM ET
Mitts is doomed. He has no help. Thompson is the only player that can play to Mitts level but he is not ready. I wish Botts and Housley would give Nylander a shot on Mitts wing.
- sabresfan69



I think that may happen within 24 hours.

Sheary down
Pommer down


Nylander up?
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:22 PM ET
He hate me- I give up, you're right.....

Sabres 69 - I'm not done kicking you, whether you gave up or not.

Just an observation

- Boss34

Sorry but being flippant is worse than anything. He wasn't being serious, he was being flippant. Just ask him.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
Wouldn't this post be an attempt to get the last word it too?
- sabresfan69


No technically yours would...
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
It’s so much more complicated than you know.

And that’s a good thing. You’d know if you were close to it

- sbroads24


This is what annoys me about this guy posting people are weak that have addictions. It is really ignorant but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I know people who have died from addiction.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
No technically yours would...
- gordong

Well, now it is. Until he posts about it again.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 20 @ 12:24 PM ET
Sorry but being flippant is worse than anything. He wasn't being serious, he was being flippant. Just ask him.
- sabresfan69



I didn't realize that.

Keep kicking. 😉
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
Gotcha i knew the original report was from Cap Friendly, but since CBS, USA Today and the Buffalo News all reported things similar. That the two sides spoke over a few days and decided this was the best route. Then with the Patrik Zetterberg article coming out saying the welcome him with open arms back to the Swedish team i figured it was all but a formality.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


It all sounds very promising. Once I hear that lawyers are not getting involved, then I'll feel better. There's still an ominous silence
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
No technically yours would...
- gordong



I don't know how mine would be when i wasn't even a part of their "conversation"
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
It all sounds very promising. Once I hear that lawyers are not getting involved, then I'll feel better. There's still an ominous silence
- jcragcrumple



Yeah i thought there was actual "sources" and quotes yesterday when all this was being posted. We can only hope for the best at this point
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
I didn't realize that.

Keep kicking. 😉

- Boss34

having a debate about addiction = kicking someone.

I would say people who approach a message board in that manner are weak minded much more than addiction.

Isn't perspective wonderful.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Dec 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
Until it comes from the NHLPA, Berglund or his agent nothing is certain.
- sabresfan69


Haven't heard a word from either yet. So they've had ample time to respond. It's been 6 days.

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 20 @ 12:29 PM ET
Sure, maybe do some research into it to improve your opinion on the matter. You also first started out saying you are weak if you have an addiction and are rich as moved slightly to saying well you should at least try to help yourself. So you are learning.
- sabresfan69


Unpopular opinion:

You talk about trauma being the root cause of a lot of addictions, but it's pretty well understood that most people suffer some traumatic experience before they are adults. Some people pick up the bottle of pills, others don't. I can feel empathy for those who suffer from addiction, as I have with cigarettes and understand what a goober addiction really is. However, if we all experience trauma (to some degree) and some people choose to not resort to drugs...there is a strength there that the addicts lacked, at least at the time of their initial usage.

I am not going to call addicts weak. All I am saying is that there is some onus on the addict to both seek help, but also that they do hold some of the blame for their decision to use.

Hopefully that sounds a bit more fair. I think I understand where both are coming from to be honest. There is an argument to be made that millionaires, of all people, should have the ability and resources to get clean. Josh Gordon had multiple opportunities and yet he let it ruin his career. I don't pity him. I pity the guy on the corner that broke his arm, ran out of oxycodone and starting using H in it's place. That seems like more of a trap than drinking or weed will ever be.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 20 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yeah I don’t get it .

But I’m not the coach lol

- gerbe75pts



Honestly at this point I think they should put the kid on a wing and let him gain some confidence it might be fun to watch Mitts with Jack and Jeff...

or put Sam and Mitts together on a line (sam at center) I think mitts is so worried about playing defense that he's not really showing what he can do in the offensive zone... But who know I could be totally wrong, pure speculation on my part.



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