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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
But he was still joking.
- VANTEL

SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 28 @ 10:06 AM ET
Been playing a lot of video games?
- neem55

I think you nailed it dead on
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Dec 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
Playoffs!!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
He's still useless ... picking up soft points from two of the hottest young players in the game. Can Goldie drive the play ? Nope... back check.... nope.... remain focused on his positioning for his entire shift? Still nope. Block shots....play the body... kill penalties ? Nope nope nope. Honestly just what the (frank) can he actually contribute to this team other then to catch alot of second assists on his linemates goals? Leivo has scored more goals on that line In a week then goldie has playing on it almost the entire season .
- Bullfrog77

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
I was pretty happy with the Beagle signing. He was a favourite in Washington, even if it was to their determent when he was getting minutes over OV. Guy's a 4th line hero. And we were so poop on the faceoffs last year, sometimes you just need to pay for the guy with the skill set you need.
- micah555

Shhhhhhhhh...some are still in denial on Beagle...feelings bro.

His last 4 seasons in WAS speak for themselves.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Dec 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
He's still useless ... picking up soft points from two of the hottest young players in the game. Can Goldie drive the play ? Nope... back check.... nope.... remain focused on his positioning for his entire shift? Still nope. Block shots....play the body... kill penalties ? Nope nope nope. Honestly just what the (frank) can he actually contribute to this team other then to catch alot of second assists on his linemates goals? Leivo has scored more goals on that line In a week then goldie has playing on it almost the entire season .
- Bullfrog77


WTF do you want him doing this? that's like saying "Why doesn't Elias fight more?"

soft points!!! literally both goals wouldn't have happened without the plays he made last night.

Kids a good playmaker, cheap, young and still improving - he's top 6 in points among forwards on every team except Tampa - i don't understand why some of you dopes don't realize that's not easy to replace.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
He's still useless ... picking up soft points from two of the hottest young players in the game. Can Goldie drive the play ? Nope... back check.... nope.... remain focused on his positioning for his entire shift? Still nope. Block shots....play the body... kill penalties ? Nope nope nope. Honestly just what the (frank) can he actually contribute to this team other then to catch alot of second assists on his linemates goals? Leivo has scored more goals on that line In a week then goldie has playing on it almost the entire season .
- Bullfrog77


I'm not sure that's fair. The kid is exceptional at breaking into the zone, opening up the ice and dishing the puck, as evidenced by his number of assists. Hes a perfect example of a complimentary piece with great playmaking abilities on a line with two elite shooters.

Unlike other 'third wheels' (Nylander for example), we can probably extend him on a relatively cheap contract where he can put up 40 to 60 pts a season...aka a prototypical second line winger.

The fact that we got him at the deadline for scraps is awesome.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
Oilers fans still complaining about the 5 PP we got last game in their thread... they should worry about being passed by the Canucks in the standings.
- carsonagenic

Complaining about the refs can go one of two ways, help or hinder you and 90% of the time the refs get offended by being chastised. With Kesler/Burrows/Vignault here constantly crying about the refs it never put us in their good graces for almost ten years.

If we play our cards right maybe Bettman's boys will help us out at one time or another.

Golden Suitcase baby!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
He's still useless ... picking up soft points from two of the hottest young players in the game. Can Goldie drive the play ? Nope... back check.... nope.... remain focused on his positioning for his entire shift? Still nope. Block shots....play the body... kill penalties ? Nope nope nope. Honestly just what the (frank) can he actually contribute to this team other then to catch alot of second assists on his linemates goals? Leivo has scored more goals on that line In a week then goldie has playing on it almost the entire season .
- Bullfrog77

Well, you aren't 'technically' wrong but most clubs have a Goldy in their lineup. A player who has massive offensive upside when playing with the right line mates and not much of a defensive player. I think it's too soon to give up on him yet.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Dec 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
I'm not sure that's fair. The kid is exceptional at breaking into the zone, opening up the ice and dishing the puck, as evidenced by his number of assists. Hes a perfect example of a complimentary piece with great playmaking abilities on a line with two elite shooters.

Unlike other 'third wheels' (Nylander for example), we can probably extend him on a relatively cheap contract where he can put up 40 to 60 pts a season...aka a prototypical second line winger.

The fact that we got him at the deadline for scraps is awesome.

- Whiskey-Tango


I get the argument that some guys can be on a line with two other elite players and benefit from it, obviously that happens. But that's just not the case with Goldy. He's a talented playmaker and no amount of blind hate is gonna change that fact. Look when Leivo played with BB and EP, he had 1 assist in 10 games.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
I get the argument that some guys can be on a line with two other elite players and benefit from it, obviously that happens. But that's just not the case with Goldy. He's a talented playmaker and no amount of blind hate is gonna change that fact. Look when Leivo played with BB and EP, he had 1 assist in 10 games.
- Brooks_Light


Exactly.

The funny thing is, this board has been calling for a skilled playmaking winger for almost a decade. We finally get one through savvy asset management and yet, the female doging continues.

The kid has probably the best vision and skating ability on the team after only EP.

With the addition of Leivo and the return of Sven and Sutter, theres going to be some real depth kicking around this roster.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 11:12 AM ET
Exactly.

The funny thing is, this board has been calling for a skilled playmaking winger for almost a decade. We finally get one through savvy asset management and yet, the female doging continues.

The kid has probably the best vision and skating ability on the team after only EP.

With the addition of Leivo and the return of Sven and Sutter, theres going to be some real depth kicking around this roster.

- Whiskey-Tango

Trade the depth away! Trade it all away. #LoseforHughes
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
I get the argument that some guys can be on a line with two other elite players and benefit from it, obviously that happens. But that's just not the case with Goldy. He's a talented playmaker and no amount of blind hate is gonna change that fact. Look when Leivo played with BB and EP, he had 1 assist in 10 games.
- Brooks_Light


What does Goldobin do away from those 2 players? He is usually ineffective.
Leivo had a different role on that line, being the cornerman/net front presence against the bigger and stronger teams and could be relied upon to play at both ends of the ice, hence why he played 15-16 minutes per game on that line, unlike Nikki, who has to have his icetime reduced when the team is holding onto a lead.
Goldobin is fine with them, for certain games, as a 3rd wheel, for now, and I hope he continues to improve his play away from the puck, because we all know this team needs reliable players that can provide offensive help, that can play at both ends of the ice.


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
Morning goldy hate is the best morning hate
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Dec 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
What does Goldobin do away from those 2 players? He is usually ineffective.
Leivo had a different role on that line, being the cornerman/net front presence against the bigger and stronger teams and could be relied upon to play at both ends of the ice, hence why he played 15-16 minutes per game on that line, unlike Nikki, who has to have his icetime reduced when the team is holding onto a lead.
Goldobin is fine with them, for certain games, as a 3rd wheel, for now, and I hope he continues to improve his play away from the puck, because we all know this team needs reliable players that can provide offensive help, that can play at both ends of the ice.

- Reubenkincade


He has 10 of his 23 points without EP/BB so no he isn't ineffective. He produces the majority of his pts at Even Strength as well. I agree Goldy has to keep improving in his own end and be more aggressive overall, but I don't think every team has an entire lineup that does that - Thats not how teams are constructed. Last night Virtanen and Gaudette were on the ice in the last 3 minutes with EDM goalie pulled - that shows trust from Green and growth from both those guys - remember last year when Jake would be on the bench for most of the 3rd? If Green can get those guys to buy in I dont see why Goldy can't.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 11:38 AM ET
He has 10 of his 23 points without EP/BB so no he isn't ineffective. He produces the majority of his pts at Even Strength as well. I agree Goldy has to keep improving in his own end and be more aggressive overall, but I don't think every team has an entire lineup that does that - Thats not how teams are constructed. Last night Virtanen and Gaudette were on the ice in the last 3 minutes with EDM goalie pulled - that shows trust from Green and growth from both those guys - remember last year when Jake would be on the bench for most of the 3rd? If Green can get those guys to buy in I dont see why Goldy can't.
- Brooks_Light

Exactly Trade Sutter.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Interesting.

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Dec 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
Exactly Trade Sutter.
- manvanfan



i'm done defending GOldy
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 28 @ 11:44 AM ET
Morning goldy hate is the best morning hate
- Codes1087

Goldobin sucks.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:55 AM ET


i'm done defending GOldy

- Brooks_Light


One of our many polarizing players for this fanbase.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Close.. not really.

- boonerbuck


I am horrendous at predictions. Usually the exact opposite happens. So if every instinct that I have is wrong, then the exact opposite should be true.

I’m starting to outwit fate.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Exactly Trade Sutter.
- manvanfan


Don't know if he would be willing to waive, But, Boston could use him.
Wouldn't mind either of Lauko or Studnicka for him, maybe a 4th as well.😁
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Interesting.


- VanHockeyGuy


This is awesome.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
Goldobin sucks.
- Marwood


I disagree. But i dont care enough to write a novel to convince you otherwise
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Dec 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
Interesting.


- VanHockeyGuy

in all fairness the mantle of "generational" slowed McD down , and he didn't have the great Goldobin to carry him
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