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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 6:05 PM ET
Didnt Seguin just sign a huge extension?

How does that work with : these guys needing contracts

Skinner
Mitts
Dahlin

Sabres cant make any trades, they need to sign skinner first. So I've been told.

- Boss34



The only way the could make a substantial trade like this mid season would be getting someone to take Okposo and or Scandella which is going to be next to impossible.

Skinners new cap hit won't hit until next year so the money from Berglund and Pommer covers that.

Dahlin's deal would be when Scandella Sobotka and Bogosian's contracts are done

Mitts would be traded in this scenario.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
The only way the could make a substantial trade like this mid season would be getting someone to take Okposo and or Scandella which is going to be next to impossible.

Skinners new cap hit won't hit until next year so the money from Berglund and Pommer covers that.

Dahlin's deal would be when Scandella Sobotka and Bogosian's contracts are done

Mitts would be traded in this scenario.

- Stripes77


There are a few GMs who would give up a mid-to-late round pick for Scandalous imo
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:12 PM ET
Didnt Seguin just sign a huge extension?

How does that work with : these guys needing contracts

Skinner
Mitts
Dahlin

Sabres cant make any trades, they need to sign skinner first. So I've been told.

- Boss34


Seguin is better then Skinner and Mitts will ever be, and I'm a huge Mittelstadt fan. Skinner has posted 60+ points in a season twice. Seguin does it every year with ease.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 28 @ 6:12 PM ET
The only way the could make a substantial trade like this mid season would be getting someone to take Okposo and or Scandella which is going to be next to impossible.

Skinners new cap hit won't hit until next year so the money from Berglund and Pommer covers that.

Dahlin's deal would be when Scandella Sobotka and Bogosian's contracts are done

Mitts would be traded in this scenario.

- Stripes77

Or just not re up skinner. I'll take Seguin at 9.5 over skinner at 8.5 every day of the week.
BOOM
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 6:13 PM ET
The only way the could make a substantial trade like this mid season would be getting someone to take Okposo and or Scandella which is going to be next to impossible.

Skinners new cap hit won't hit until next year so the money from Berglund and Pommer covers that.

Dahlin's deal would be when Scandella Sobotka and Bogosian's contracts are done

Mitts would be traded in this scenario.

- Stripes77



Would trading sam and his 3.65 a year over mitts make sense?

Who has more value around the nhl?

Seems like sam is more of a sure bet nhl player.

How about okposo, sam , 1st and scans or bowl u.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 28 @ 6:15 PM ET
Seguin is better then Skinner and Mitts will ever be, and I'm a huge Mittelstadt fan.
- Pegullaville

Yes and yes and yes. Keep mitts put him on the wing
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 6:15 PM ET
Seguin is better then Skinner and Mitts will ever be, and I'm a huge Mittelstadt fan.
- Pegullaville



Off ice issues?

Seguin had some problems in Boston when he was younger.

New "clank"

Nhl network has Seguin at 11 posts/crossbars this season
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 6:16 PM ET
Would trading sam and his 3.65 a year over mitts make sense?

Who has more value around the nhl?

Seems like sam is more of a sure bet nhl player.

How about okposo, sam , 1st and scans or bowl u.

- Boss34



For Tyler Seguin? The Stars GM is not Forrest Gump
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
Off ice issues?

Seguin had some problems in Boston when he was younger.

New "clank"

Nhl network has Seguin at 11 posts/crossbars this season

- Boss34


Eichel/Seguin would rival Matthews/Tavares and Point/Stamkos. Anyone other then Dahlin I'd consider moving in that trade. I'd prefer to move Reinhart over Mittelstadt but if it has to be Mittelstadt then so be it.

All that being said though its a pipedream that would never happen. Fun to dream though.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 28 @ 6:19 PM ET
Agreed

Only because Casey wouldn't be a 3rd line center I would move him to the wing if we could keep him

Skinner Jack Sam
Sheary Seguin Casey

But realistically one of Reinhart or Casey would be leaving

Plus you have to get them to take Scandella or Okposo (yeah right) to make the cap work

- Stripes77


Seguin set to make $13m next season...they would need to take Okposo AND Scandella LOL
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 6:22 PM ET
Or just not re up skinner. I'll take Seguin at 9.5 over skinner at 8.5 every day of the week.
BOOM

- TheHank



You can keep both and still have almost $5 million in cap space if you move out Scandella and let Pommer retire

Guhle Mittelstadt San Jose's 1st and The Blues 2nd for Seguin (probably not enough though)

Scandella and a 6th back to Minny for a 3rd

When Dahlin is due Bogo's $5.1 comes off

McCabe gets a modest raise to $2.5 million per
Bowl-U goes to $3 million per

I mean its doable but the killer here is Okposo's contract

Then again this is all a pipe dream cause they're not gonna move Seguin
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:22 PM ET
Seguin set to make $13m next season...they would need to take Okposo AND Scandella LOL
- IonSabres


Cap hit of $9.85M though. Pegula has deep pockets he can stomach it. But yea we would still have to move a lot of contracts to make it work. Its fun to dream.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 28 @ 6:23 PM ET
Or just not re up skinner. I'll take Seguin at 9.5 over skinner at 8.5 every day of the week.
BOOM

- TheHank


Seguin is set to make $13.5m next year.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 6:24 PM ET
Seguin set to make $13m next season...they would need to take Okposo AND Scandella LOL
- IonSabres



$9.85 million cap hit

Pegula doesn't care about the actual dollars it's just the cap hit that matters
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 6:28 PM ET
For Tyler Seguin? The Stars GM is not Forrest Gump
- jcragcrumple



How many teams are lining up for his cap hit?


okposo- worthless- negative value
Sam- now a point per game winger. Makes eichel better.
Doesn't matter that he hasnt scored in 9 games. He has 7 assists in the last 5 games. Young rfa after this contract.
1st - good draft this year
Scans/bowl - salary dump

2nd overall for 2nd overall

Doesn't matter where they were picked?
They didnt pick- themselves

I agree though- not a jbotts move.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 6:29 PM ET
Seguin set to make $13m next season...they would need to take Okposo AND Scandella LOL
- IonSabres


#forestgumpisn'ttheregm
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 28 @ 6:29 PM ET
I'd keep both for now and give em skinner.
BOOM

- TheHank

That defeats the purpose.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 6:29 PM ET
How many teams are lining up for his cap hit?


okposo- worthless- negative value
Sam- now a point per game winger. Makes eichel better.
Doesn't matter that he hasnt scored in 9 games. He has 7 assists in the last 5 games. Young rfa after this contract.
1st - good draft this year
Scans/bowl - salary dump

2nd overall for 2nd overall

Doesn't matter where they were picked?
They didnt pick- themselves

I agree though- not a jbotts move.

- Boss34


I think it would be Reinhart, Mitts, 1st, Moulson (to make the numbers work) for Seguin

Maybe more. Asplund or something
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:33 PM ET
That defeats the purpose.
- SABRES 89


Well if you hear anything regarding Seguin over the next week from the Sabres end please PM me.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 6:33 PM ET
That defeats the purpose.
- SABRES 89

some people don't get it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 6:36 PM ET
I think it would be Reinhart, Mitts, 1st, Moulson (to make the numbers work) for Seguin

Maybe more. Asplund or something

- jcragcrumple

so move 3 young pieces for a center that is RoR's age?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
so move 3 young pieces for a center that is RoR's age?
- homiedclown


I'm just proposing what I think would be close to a deal
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
is elie, sheary, e-rod, tage and girgens going to be the rest of our wingers with skinner, assuming skinner signs?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
Cap hit of $9.85M though. Pegula has deep pockets he can stomach it. But yea we would still have to move a lot of contracts to make it work. Its fun to dream.
- Pegullaville


Thanks, I keep looking at Celery.

Alrighty then!! I'm in!!!
I'd give them our 2019 and 2020 1sts, Guhle, Nylander, and they take Okposso.
If they want Sheary too, have at him.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
Backes suspended 3 games.
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