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Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 31 @ 1:55 PM ET
I would rather Gagner than him, at least Gagner tries to play defensive hockey, Goldobin on the other hand is totally useless at it.
Ultimately, I would like too see Zacmac, get a shot.

- Reubenkincade


Goldobin tries. He's just not good at it. The same way a lot of players are bad at it.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 31 @ 1:55 PM ET
per BB:

Warmup lines for the #Canucks in New Jersey:

Eriksson-Horvat(A)-Virtanen
Roussel-Pettersson-Boeser
Baertschi-Granlund-Leivo
Goldobin-Beagle-Motte

Edler(A)-Tanev(A)
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pouliot-Stecher

Nilsson

- Codes1087


Okay, what am I missing here?.....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
Okay, what am I missing here?.....
- vancity787


yeah, might as well scratch him you're gonna play him on that line.


Also, Granlund at C is
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:00 PM ET
if I can slightly come around on Gudbranson, I have hope that you can do the same with Goldy Reuby
- Codes1087


I had some hope for 77, earlier this season, he has regressed since.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:01 PM ET
Okay, what am I missing here?.....
- vancity787


he played like poop last game and deserved to be demoted and play with a guy who works his ass off every shift
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:03 PM ET
I had some hope for 77, earlier this season, he has regressed since.
- Reubenkincade


meh, not disagreeing he has regressed. His effort was absolute sh|t, and for a guy who hasn't scored in a while, i don't much care for that between the legs crap on a break-a-way. Even as a goldy fan, I still think he has high hockey iq, with low passion and energy, but his age/cap/skillset makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th winger. Again, I really like the Tampa model, of having skilled players on the first 3 lines, and having a bit of a grinding 4th line. If Canucks can anyhow mimic their model, I would be ecstatic.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:05 PM ET
Goldys back with Brock and Elias
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 31 @ 2:07 PM ET
its NYE i want to do a shotgun
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 31 @ 2:08 PM ET
meh, not disagreeing he has regressed. His effort was absolute sh|t, and for a guy who hasn't scored in a while, i don't much care for that between the legs crap on a break-a-way. Even as a goldy fan, I still think he has high hockey iq, with low passion and energy, but his age/cap/skillset makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th winger. Again, I really like the Tampa model, of having skilled players on the first 3 lines, and having a bit of a grinding 4th line. If Canucks can anyhow mimic their model, I would be ecstatic.
- Codes1087


lol, weird double standard there and im not even a big Goldy fan.

If Gaudette did that or Dahlen got called up and did that move, people would be going nuts. The fact that Goldy can pull that move off while having a defender right on his tail was pretty damn impressive. It's not like he flubbed it either, he got the shot off and it seemed like a higher quality shot than just throwing a rushed shot on net like most guys would do if they had a dman closing in on them. Solid save by Rittich who stayed in position and didn't bite on the move.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:12 PM ET
lol, weird double standard there and im not even a big Goldy fan.

If Gaudette did that or Dahlen got called up and did that move, people would be going nuts. The fact that Goldy can pull that move off while having a defender right on his tail was pretty damn impressive. It's not like he flubbed it either, he got the shot off and it seemed like a higher quality shot than just throwing it on net. Solid save by Rittich who stayed in position and didn't bite on the move.

- Nucker101


its not really a double standard, i don't see other people complaining about it, its just my personal opinion. If Goldy was scoring on a regular basis, it wouldn't be half as bad, but the kid could have just made a simple play and shot the puck. And again, it is just my opinion, but I would prefer that if Dahlen or Gaudette got called up, that they stay away from trying to do between the legs poop and just put the puck in the net. Prolific scorers find different ways to put the puck in the net every night, but i just don't really care much for guys who are struggling doing stuff like that when the simple shot would not only suffice, but would probably have a higher chance of getting a goal. Again, just my opinion though.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 31 @ 2:12 PM ET
Maybe the guys heard Blackwood is new and wanted to be the first to put puck marks on his pads.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 31 @ 2:16 PM ET
its not really a double standard, i don't see other people complaining about it, its just my personal opinion. If Goldy was scoring on a regular basis, it wouldn't be half as bad, but the kid could have just made a simple play and shot the puck. And again, it is just my opinion, but I would prefer that if Dahlen or Gaudette got called up, that they stay away from trying to do between the legs poop and just put the puck in the net. Prolific scorers find different ways to put the puck in the net every night, but i just don't really care much for guys who are struggling doing stuff like that when the simple shot would not only suffice, but would probably have a higher chance of getting a goal. Again, just my opinion though.
- Codes1087


This reads like an old man Don Cherry rant lol

How is throwing a hurried shot on net better than what he did? Rittich was in sound position and the defender was closing the gap on Goldy, a normal shot would not be better than what he did. At least he tried to make Rittich bite or lose balance with that move.

If he failed to get off the shot then I could understand the frustration lol, but the fact that he could pull that off is a positive, not a negative.

I hate that you're making me defend Goldy so much lol since I'm pretty neutral on him, I view him as more of a 3rd wheel type at best right now.


I'll agree to disagree here and leave it at that.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 31 @ 2:18 PM ET
its not really a double standard, i don't see other people complaining about it, its just my personal opinion. If Goldy was scoring on a regular basis, it wouldn't be half as bad, but the kid could have just made a simple play and shot the puck. And again, it is just my opinion, but I would prefer that if Dahlen or Gaudette got called up, that they stay away from trying to do between the legs poop and just put the puck in the net. Prolific scorers find different ways to put the puck in the net every night, but i just don't really care much for guys who are struggling doing stuff like that when the simple shot would not only suffice, but would probably have a higher chance of getting a goal. Again, just my opinion though.
- Codes1087


Seems you're down on a 40 point winger being a 40 point winger and not a 60 point winger.

Goldy was on his backhand with no play to his forehand. The Malik created a net front rebound the trailer didn't pick up. The trailer skates in on that with his stick on the ice and not at his waist and people are praising Goldy right now.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:20 PM ET
Seems you're down on a 40 point winger being a 40 point winger and not a 60 point winger.

Goldy was on his backhand with no play to his forehand. The Malik created a net front rebound the trailer didn't pick up. The trailer skates in on that with his stick on the ice and not at his waist and people are praising Goldy right now.

- Lindenis#1


ill agree to disagree.

I am not down on Goldy. You are being dramatic. I am one of his more vocal supporters in this blog. I just don't disagree with him being demoted when he is playing poorly, or gives a poor effort.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:21 PM ET
This reads like an old man Don Cherry rant lol

How is throwing a hurried shot on net better than what he did? Rittich was in sound position and the defender was closing the gap on Goldy, a normal shot would not be better than what he did. At least he tried to make Rittich bite or lose balance with that move.

If he failed to get off the shot then I could understand the frustration lol, but the fact that he could pull that off is a positive, not a negative.

I hate that you're making me defend Goldy so much lol since I'm pretty neutral on him, I view him as more of a 3rd wheel type at best right now.


I'll agree to disagree here and leave it at that.

- Nucker101


lol im 100% fine to agree to disagree. LOL you aren't so much defending him as much as you are defending the play, and I am 100% ok with that. differences of opinion are just that, not going to come down on you for it.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 31 @ 2:39 PM ET
Thanks Carol

Hey Lefty, bet you’re regretting not acquiring Markstrom when he was offered, 8-1, and some of the best numbers in the league the last month...

Goldy on the fourth line with Beagle, teach him some good old fashioned compete!

- 1970vintage


He failed in goblin fashion instead.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:42 PM ET
Leivo needs to go back on Elias line for this next period.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
meh, not disagreeing he has regressed. His effort was absolute sh|t, and for a guy who hasn't scored in a while, i don't much care for that between the legs crap on a break-a-way. Even as a goldy fan, I still think he has high hockey iq, with low passion and energy, but his age/cap/skillset makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th winger. Again, I really like the Tampa model, of having skilled players on the first 3 lines, and having a bit of a grinding 4th line. If Canucks can anyhow mimic their model, I would be ecstatic.
- Codes1087

His age cap and skill set makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th line winger ? Couldn't disagree with this statement more... he is the least qualified player on this roster for a 3rd or 4th line winger spot. These lines are generally reserved for checking / penalty killers and line matching. None of these things is goldobin even average at. Less heart and less compete then almost every other player in this league. He has amazing offensive gifts and it would seem zero inner drive to capitalize on them. He should not be on this team , or in this league until he can find some desire to improve. I don't see that ever happening so the sooner he's out the door the better. Hopefully we can dump him on someone else and recoup something from him .
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:49 PM ET
His age cap and skill set makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th line winger ? Couldn't disagree with this statement more... he is the least qualified player on this roster for a 3rd or 4th line winger spot. These lines are generally reserved for checking / penalty killers and line matching. None of these things is goldobin even average at. Less heart and less compete then almost every other player in this league. He has amazing offensive gifts and it would seem zero inner drive to capitalize on them. He should not be on this team , or in this league until he can find some desire to improve. I don't see that ever happening so the sooner he's out the door the better. Hopefully we can dump him on someone else and recoup something from him .
- Bullfrog77


agree to disagree.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:49 PM ET
Goldy hate in full force , canucks are playing super fast today
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:53 PM ET
His age cap and skill set makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th line winger ? Couldn't disagree with this statement more... he is the least qualified player on this roster for a 3rd or 4th line winger spot. These lines are generally reserved for checking / penalty killers and line matching. None of these things is goldobin even average at. Less heart and less compete then almost every other player in this league. He has amazing offensive gifts and it would seem zero inner drive to capitalize on them. He should not be on this team , or in this league until he can find some desire to improve. I don't see that ever happening so the sooner he's out the door the better. Hopefully we can dump him on someone else and recoup something from him .
- Bullfrog77


Well said.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:56 PM ET
Stop the ducking puck.

enough of Nilsson, let's get Demko up here.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 31 @ 2:56 PM ET
His age cap and skill set makes for a pretty ideal 3rd/4th line winger ? Couldn't disagree with this statement more... he is the least qualified player on this roster for a 3rd or 4th line winger spot. These lines are generally reserved for checking / penalty killers and line matching. None of these things is goldobin even average at. Less heart and less compete then almost every other player in this league. He has amazing offensive gifts and it would seem zero inner drive to capitalize on them. He should not be on this team , or in this league until he can find some desire to improve. I don't see that ever happening so the sooner he's out the door the better. Hopefully we can dump him on someone else and recoup something from him .
- Bullfrog77


I think the 2 scoring lines/ 2 checking lines way of thinking is dead

It’s 3/1 now
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 31 @ 2:58 PM ET
I think the 2 scoring lines/ 2 checking lines way of thinking is dead

It’s 3/1 now

- Nucker101


I agree. I don't think many teams have really stuck to that system for a while now. Again, my personal opinion is that I really like the style that cooper deploys his lines. lines 1-3 being higher skilled/fast and the 4th being a bit of a grinding/checking type role. Green isn't really much different. We generally see 3 lines play between 13-19 minutes per player, and a fourth which used to consist of say Gaudette, Granlund, Motte or whoever play less than 10.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 31 @ 2:59 PM ET
Nilsson sucks
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