Just looking at the young players obviously Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim and I believe Myers will be also.

Happy New Year.
- MJL

Can we just sit McDonald and bring up Myers to see what we have in him?

Perfect setup! They tank without doing it on purpose. So they can still look at themselves in the tough man flyer mirror.

No thanks. Myers is a right handed shot. If you trade away one of these kids it's going to be a huge issue trying to replace them. Remember 5 years ago when it was impossible to trade for one?

They can move a forward for D, draft one or go UFA. They don't need to part with their core D pieces to do it.
- hereticpride

Yes I agree with this view but a wakeup/shakeup is needed
And trades in this order Simmonds Raffl Voracek and if needed a dman

Can we just sit McDonald and bring up Myers to see what we have in him?
- jmdodgeser4

Sure but I wound't do that right now. Love to scapegoat McDonald and he has not played up to his own abilities but he is far from the only one.

Yes I agree with this view but a wakeup/shakeup is needed
And trades in this order Simmonds Raffl Voracek and if needed a dman
- goenzoy

They need to make smart moves and decide who is part of the future and who isn't. Don't make trades or moves just for a wakeup/shakeup. They fired the head coach already.

Sure but I wound't do that right now. Love to scapegoat McDonald and he has not played up to his own abilities but he is far from the only one.
- MJL

Not scape goating him. He’s an older dman and I would like to see with the young players. I think we can move McDonald now or in the off-season with taking half the hit. Why not see what we have in Myers. Gudas would be the other option but really he’s the only one that can hit or show anything other then waving a purse at somebody.

Not scape goating him. He’s an older dman and I would like to see with the young players. I think we can move McDonald now or in the off-season with taking half the hit. Why not see what we have in Myers. Gudas would be the other option but really he’s the only one that can hit or show anything other then waving a purse at somebody.
- jmdodgeser4

I think with the way the team is playing, with a lack of team structure and inconsistency, makes it a tough situation to break in a young defenseman into the NHL.

I think with the way the team is playing, with a lack of team structure and inconsistency, makes it a tough situation to break in a young defenseman into the NHL.
- MJL

As much as I want to see Meyers, I would be really hesitant about throwing him in to this tire fire.

Please list which young Flyers defensemen are everyday NHL-caliber locks.
- jmatchett383

Do nt like the word lock but only Provorov is a legit top pair dman
Just overused last year AKA one reason why he isn't that good 18/19.
But all other s can be 2nd pair dman most of the time
Maybe Myers and Haag 3rd pair during average days.
Only about Morin I m pessimistic he might never be able to control his body good enough to be a regular

And the Flyers management told Carter they wouldn't trade him less than 48 hours before they traded him.
- jmatchett383

I tend to believe them. To stay relevant you need a good farm system. I think for a quality young player yeah they'll do it. Or maybe a vet with a contract of 3 years. Dont see it for a few month rental.

Happy New Years all, I’m thankful for Bill and the chance to talk Flyers with all of you.

Reading opinions here on its time to break up the core of this team.

I get the idea of trading Simmonds.

For those wanting to trade Voracek or even Giroux, are you ok with the team getting much worse in the short term? A full tear down doesn’t seem to be in the cards if you listen to what management said in the post Hextall firing press conference.

I would be aghast if they traded Provorov for a forward. Franchise type D guys don’t grow on trees. His down year along with the awful goaltending (goaltending is the #1 reason) are the two biggest reasons why they are struggling right now. He’s going to bounce back.

They need to make smart moves and decide who is part of the future and who isn't. Don't make trades or moves just for a wakeup/shakeup. They fired the head coach already.
- MJL

Yes but season is over and both Simmonds and Raffl are UFA s.
Simmer with a NTC element and Raffl a complete unknown tradingwise

Do nt like the word lock but only Provorov is a legit top pair dman
Just overused last year AKA one reason why he isn't that good 18/19.
But all other s can be 2nd pair dman most of the time
Maybe Myers and Haag 3rd pair during average days.
Only about Morin I m pessimistic he might never be able to control his body good enough to be a regular
- goenzoy

I think your underestimating Haag. He is a NHL dman. He is a decent skater, he can chip in offensively on occasion. He is good on the boards, does not take a lot of penalties. He isn’t injury prone. While he tends to miss dzone assignments he is still young and see the rest of the d corp as well.
In a perfect world meaning you have better dmen he is a solid 5-6 dman.

Happy New Years all, I’m thankful for Bill and the chance to talk Flyers with all of you.

Reading opinions here on its time to break up the core of this team.

I get the idea of trading Simmonds.

For those wanting to trade Voracek or even Giroux, are you ok with the team getting much worse in the short term? A full tear down doesn’t seem to be in the cards if you listen to what management said in the post Hextall firing press conference.

I would be aghast if they traded Provorov for a forward. Franchise type D guys don’t grow on trees. His down year along with the awful goaltending (goaltending is the #1 reason) are the two biggest reasons why they are struggling right now. He’s going to bounce back.
- Marc D

I have no issue with making a hockey trade involving Voracek, but you need a quality NHL player or players coming back. He’s not a guy you move for picks. Simmonds and perhaps Raffl are the guys who should be moved for picks between now and the deadline.

After the season, I’d look to move on from AMac, even if you have to eat 50% of the final year to get a deal done. I’d also shop around JVR, he’s butter soft and I’ve never been a big fan of his. In FA I’d look to sign a guy like Stone, another bottom 6 forward who plays with heart and some snarl in his game and a veteran goalie who can pair with Hart and mentor him.

LOUD NOISES!!!!
- cdearth23

I LOVE LAMP!!!!!!

I have no issue with making a hockey trade involving Voracek, but you need a quality NHL player or players coming back. He’s not a guy you move for picks. Simmonds and perhaps Raffl are the guys who should be moved for picks between now and the deadline.

After the season, I’d look to move on from AMac, even if you have to eat 50% of the final year to get a deal done. I’d also shop around JVR, he’s butter soft and I’ve never been a big fan of his. In FA I’d look to sign a guy like Stone, another bottom 6 forward who plays with heart and some snarl in his game and a veteran goalie who can pair with Hart and mentor him.
- BiggE

I lean towards agreeing with you on Voracek but we have to remember that cap space is an asset also so I think that will limit the market for Voracek and possibly the return. When he is on, Voracek is a creator. The Flyers in my opinion need to add more speed and quickness to the lineup. If they remove Voracek, that diminishes that factor.

I think your underestimating Haag. He is a NHL dman. He is a decent skater, he can chip in offensively on occasion. He is good on the boards, does not take a lot of penalties. He isn’t injury prone. While he tends to miss dzone assignments he is still young and see the rest of the d corp as well.
In a perfect world meaning you have better dmen he is a solid 5-6 dman.
- bird_dog_pa

Hagg is this season one our best defenseman. He definitely 110% belongs. I also see him Seattle bound for that reason

I lean towards agreeing with you on Voracek but we have to remember that cap space is an asset also so I think that will limit the market for Voracek and possibly the return. When he is on, Voracek is a creator. The Flyers in my opinion need to add more speed and quickness to the lineup. If they remove Voracek, that diminishes that factor.
- MJL

I still wonder if a team struggling to hang on to ufa like Ottawa would want him. They have tradeable assets and it just makes sense. His cap isn't outrageous and he has lack of nmc.

I lean towards agreeing with you on Voracek but we have to remember that cap space is an asset also so I think that will limit the market for Voracek and possibly the return. When he is on, Voracek is a creator. The Flyers in my opinion need to add more speed and quickness to the lineup. If they remove Voracek, that diminishes that factor.
- MJL

Agreed, and I doubt he gets traded, but I wouldn’t be opposed to it if the return is worth it. They absolutely need more speed and quickness, but they also need some players who play the game with some heart and snarl too. This is a fragile and soft group.

I have no issue with making a hockey trade involving Voracek, but you need a quality NHL player or players coming back. He’s not a guy you move for picks. Simmonds and perhaps Raffl are the guys who should be moved for picks between now and the deadline.

After the season, I’d look to move on from AMac, even if you have to eat 50% of the final year to get a deal done. I’d also shop around JVR, he’s butter soft and I’ve never been a big fan of his. In FA I’d look to sign a guy like Stone, another bottom 6 forward who plays with heart and some snarl in his game and a veteran goalie who can pair with Hart and mentor him.
- BiggE

I am feeling that the Simmonds trade is inevitable. I also think we are stuck with JvR for better and worse. Maybe not, but trading him seems like a long shot.

Trading Voracek is a big deal. Even with his contract I’d think he’d be valuable and of interest to a lot of teams. But for teams with cap issues the Flyers would have to take back a big contract to make it work. This is the type of deal that is much harder to pull off, and could backfire for the GMs involved.

I’d be interested in re signing Raffl if a reasonable deal could be reached. I think him and Laughton have the makings of a very effective bottom six checking line. I wouldn’t be against trading him either as what he brings is ultimately replaceable.

Trading Voracek is the big make or break thing.

Hagg is this season one our best defenseman. He definitely 110% belongs. I also see him Seattle bound for that reason
- Tfaehner

I would trade him before I let that happen.

i bet this team will play hung over today

i bet this team will play hung over today
- 2Real

so, similar to the last game?

I think your underestimating Haag. He is a NHL dman. He is a decent skater, he can chip in offensively on occasion. He is good on the boards, does not take a lot of penalties. He isn’t injury prone. While he tends to miss dzone assignments he is still young and see the rest of the d corp as well.
In a perfect world meaning you have better dmen he is a solid 5-6 dman.
- bird_dog_pa

Do agree with you he can be on a good day a 2nd pair dman.But still be needs to look at Timonen style of play to get better.
Right now dman are the bigger mess then goaltending

Everyone talks about Sanheim and how good he is. Sure he has talent moving the puck, but is lacking tenacity. The start of the 2nd period yesterday spoke volumes about his tenacity -- nothing. Both he and Provy just sat there and watched the house burn down in front of them with little effort. I couldn't find words when I watched it. I don't know what to say about him other than he has potential.
Provy, his mind is somewhere else these days. It is really had to watch and realize that he is the same person from the last two years. Yeah I know, people say he must be injured, but not making a move to do something about the 2nd period face-off has little to do with injury and more to do with indecision, lack of confidence, and/or lack of effort.