Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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That D pairing you just mentioned, get's us smoked. - SABRES 89
Not really
There is still learning for Pilut to do but if you need a 2C and Minny needs defensemen
You would absolutely trade McCabe and a pick (not 1st rounder) for Coyle |
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Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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hutton 1 win in last 9 starts
lehner won his last 5 starts - homiedclown
Not sure why they aren't playing Ullmark more at this point. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Not sure why they aren't playing Ullmark more at this point. - Frizzlefry
He's been sick/hurt hence the Wedgewood call ups |
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Frizzlefry
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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Even if I wanted to torture myself sitting through a boring, non-rivalry game, Doc Emmerick makes it completely impossible to tolerate more than 30 seconds of the broadcast
Dude has probably touched more boys than all the Catholic Priests combined - BeadyEyedDouche
Dont underestimate the Catholic church. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Mike Kelly
Verified account @MikeKellyNHL
17m17 minutes ago
The Bruins win knocks the Sabres into a Wild Card spot. Just over a month ago, Buffalo was 1st in the Atlantic Division, 9 points clear of 9th place. That lead is down to 2, over the Islanders, who have 2 games in hand.
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Mike Kelly
Verified account @MikeKellyNHL
17m17 minutes ago
The Bruins win knocks the Sabres into a Wild Card spot. Just over a month ago, Buffalo was 1st in the Atlantic Division, 9 points clear of 9th place. That lead is down to 2, over the Islanders, who have 2 games in hand. - Stripes77
Well that makes the 1st day of a new year sound like a toilet flushing . |
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Frizzlefry
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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Assuming your top 4 is:
Risto Pilut
Bogo Dahlin
You're going to get a better forward for McCabe than you would Scandella
This team needs scoring and needs it bad
The remaining blue liners:
Bowl-U, Scandella, Hunwick, Guhle, Nelson
can round out the bottom pair - Stripes77
Very underwhelming options but I get your point.
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Frizzlefry
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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He's been sick/hurt hence the Wedgewood call ups - Stripes77
That's just this weekend. I meant in general. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Not really
There is still learning for Pilut to do but if you need a 2C and Minny needs defensemen
You would absolutely trade McCabe and a pick (not 1st rounder) for Coyle - Stripes77
IDK, Coyle feels like more of he same...he is going to get you
- 15 to 20 G's,
- 20 to 25 A's
That is a cross of a 2C and a good 3C....is that what the Sabres really need?
I know he has a decent contract and it won't cost a ton, but I'd rather keep McCabe and look elsewhere. Seems like a safe Darcy trade.
I'd be looking for a true 2C that can compete well with the likes of Matthews/Tarvares and Point/Stamkos. Might be better to make a hockey trade in the offseason rather than a patch now.
Or they may have a very young one in Mitts and they need to let him bake more |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Dont underestimate the Catholic church. - Frizzlefry
Don't underestimate Doc Emmerick |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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IDK, Coyle feels like more of he same...he is going to get you
- 15 to 20 G's,
- 20 to 25 A's
That is a cross of a 2C and a good 3C....is that what the Sabres really need?
I know he has a decent contract and it won't cost a ton, but I'd rather keep McCabe and look elsewhere. Seems like a safe Darcy trade.
I'd be looking for a true 2C that can compete well with the likes of Matthews/Tarvares and Point/Stamkos. Might be better to make a hockey trade in the offseason rather than a patch now.
Or they may have a very young one in Mitts and they need to let him bake more - IonSabres
To add to what you said, if I am giving up assets, I'd rather get somebody who is better then decent, such as Brayden Schenn.
Coyle is far from a no brainer move IMO. |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Let's be reasonable. Mostly because Terry Pegula isn't.
That 10-game win streak was the worst possible thing that we could have had happen this season. It changed expectations.
As a testament to the hypocrisy of the casual Buffalo sports fan, before the 10-game streak, tickets on StubHub were going for $60.00 in the 100 levels, and around $25.00 in the 300's.
After the streak, the tickets SKY-ROCKETED to $65.00 in the 300's and pushing $100.00+ in the 100's.
We have the team we deserve until further notice...
But as far as our roster, prospect and draft-pick resources goes, it is really time to start considering a trade of Ristolainen.
We have our franchise defenseman. Until this season, the majority of posters were calling Ristolainen a #4. He is on pace for 50-points, a career high. He is signed to a friendly contract.
Which is why you trade him now. Don't worry about Skinner. Don't worry about our cap situation. It will work itself out.
You know what won't? Losing Eichel, for any amount of time. What else? We have no center depth, no winger depth... but all of a sudden, we have extra bodies on defense.
Ristolainen does not make or break this team.
Seguin, Kane, yeah, there's some big names out there and we might not need or be looking for a big name, but the best way to land one of them is to flip them Ristolainen, especially if GMJB wants to hold onto those 4 first round picks... Which is very unrealistic to expect those 4 picks hit and turn into NHL players within the next 3 years.
Look at our history of 1st round picks and tell me it's worth it to wait until Eichel is 25 for any of them to be relevant. Tim Murray built a team to win before it had any right to, the last thing we need is for GMJB to take too long to build that team. Skinner can be a long-term solution on Eichel's wing, but as we will see soon if Eichel misses significant time, we are going to need a guy behind Eichel to make Skinner's role work to any capacity. Reinhart seems to be a 50-point guy without an Eichel, and close to a .ppg guy with him, so we're in the same boat with him as we are with Skinner... They are COMPLIMENTARY PLAYERS.
Our entire prospect depth right now is littered with complimentary players and our organizational make-up now has exactly TWO players that are game-breakers, Eichel and Dahlin.
What we lack utterly, however, is good role-players... and as much as I dislike him, only one role player comes to mind right now, and that's Johan Larsson. It PAINS me to say this, but he is a perfect 4th-liner and penalty killer. He plays a quiet, methodical, consistent game but he should NEVER sniff top-6 minutes.
We have depth on defense right now, surprisingly. Don't trade McCabe. His value doesn't warrant the return we would get, which would be negligible. We can bank more on one of the guys in Rochester working out when we only have to worry about 6 roster spots.
We need a legit 2nd line center, another threat on the wing, and a few solid role-players. I do give GMJB some credit here, he swung and missed bringing in Sheary, Sobotka and Berglund, so that should tell you all you need to know about considering a Coyle, Zucarello, Carter type of trade...
We need to take a swing at a big name, an established player. There is no reason to sit on 4 first round picks right now when you can package a defenseman like Ristolainen with one of them and land a legit name. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Mike Kelly
Verified account @MikeKellyNHL
17m17 minutes ago
The Bruins win knocks the Sabres into a Wild Card spot. Just over a month ago, Buffalo was 1st in the Atlantic Division, 9 points clear of 9th place. That lead is down to 2, over the Islanders, who have 2 games in hand. - Stripes77
Yep that’s some depressing news you don’t want to hear for the new year ..
But On the bright side it’s a new year they can start fresh and start winning again
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Let's be reasonable. Mostly because Terry Pegula isn't.
That 10-game win streak was the worst possible thing that we could have had happen this season. It changed expectations.
As a testament to the hypocrisy of the casual Buffalo sports fan, before the 10-game streak, tickets on StubHub were going for $60.00 in the 100 levels, and around $25.00 in the 300's.
After the streak, the tickets SKY-ROCKETED to $65.00 in the 300's and pushing $100.00+ in the 100's.
We have the team we deserve until further notice...
But as far as our roster, prospect and draft-pick resources goes, it is really time to start considering a trade of Ristolainen.
We have our franchise defenseman. Until this season, the majority of posters were calling Ristolainen a #4. He is on pace for 50-points, a career high. He is signed to a friendly contract.
Which is why you trade him now. Don't worry about Skinner. Don't worry about our cap situation. It will work itself out.
You know what won't? Losing Eichel, for any amount of time. What else? We have no center depth, no winger depth... but all of a sudden, we have extra bodies on defense.
Ristolainen does not make or break this team.
Seguin, Kane, yeah, there's some big names out there and we might not need or be looking for a big name, but the best way to land one of them is to flip them Ristolainen, especially if GMJB wants to hold onto those 4 first round picks... Which is very unrealistic to expect those 4 picks hit and turn into NHL players within the next 3 years.
Look at our history of 1st round picks and tell me it's worth it to wait until Eichel is 25 for any of them to be relevant. Tim Murray built a team to win before it had any right to, the last thing we need is for GMJB to take too long to build that team. Skinner can be a long-term solution on Eichel's wing, but as we will see soon if Eichel misses significant time, we are going to need a guy behind Eichel to make Skinner's role work to any capacity. Reinhart seems to be a 50-point guy without an Eichel, and close to a .ppg guy with him, so we're in the same boat with him as we are with Skinner... They are COMPLIMENTARY PLAYERS.
Our entire prospect depth right now is littered with complimentary players and our organizational make-up now has exactly TWO players that are game-breakers, Eichel and Dahlin.
What we lack utterly, however, is good role-players... and as much as I dislike him, only one role player comes to mind right now, and that's Johan Larsson. It PAINS me to say this, but he is a perfect 4th-liner and penalty killer. He plays a quiet, methodical, consistent game but he should NEVER sniff top-6 minutes.
We have depth on defense right now, surprisingly. Don't trade McCabe. His value doesn't warrant the return we would get, which would be negligible. We can bank more on one of the guys in Rochester working out when we only have to worry about 6 roster spots.
We need a legit 2nd line center, another threat on the wing, and a few solid role-players. I do give GMJB some credit here, he swung and missed bringing in Sheary, Sobotka and Berglund, so that should tell you all you need to know about considering a Coyle, Zucarello, Carter type of trade...
We need to take a swing at a big name, an established player. There is no reason to sit on 4 first round picks right now when you can package a defenseman like Ristolainen with one of them and land a legit name. - BeadyEyedDouche
Sure big names are great and probably could help us but I think you have to put their age in the factor Kane ( going to be 31) Jamie Benn ( going to be 30) Seguin 26 perfect age ) but these players are going to cost a ton that we can’t afford at this time imo
We Shouldn’t be going for this quick fix trying to trade for Star players that are struggling we’re going to end up back Where TM left us imo |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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To add to what you said, if I am giving up assets, I'd rather get somebody who is better then decent, such as Brayden Schenn.
Coyle is far from a no brainer move IMO. - kingcong39
Just read of pressure going up in Edmonton...Chia making moves
RNH, Puljajarvi, Ethan Bear
For
Okposo, McCabe, Nylander
Add to it as necessary |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Sure big names are great and probably could help us but I think you have to put their age in the factor Kane ( going to be 31) Jamie Benn ( going to be 30) Seguin 26 perfect age ) but these players are going to cost a ton that we can’t afford at this time imo
We Shouldn’t be going for this quick fix trying to trade for Star players that are struggling we’re going to end up back Where TM left us imo - gerbe75pts
TM obliterated our prospect and pick pool for complimentary players.
I think Ristolainen and a 1st could land you a Seguin or Draisaitl. And I think a trade like that alone would do more for this team than keeping that 1st and Risto.
Honestly, people said Skinner would cost an arm and a leg, people thought Taylor Hall would land a gold-mine of a return, and we can easily take a run at a few pending UFA's and be fine next season.
Pending UFA's we should realistically target:
Tyler Myers (Yes, I'm serious, pair him with Dahlin)
Jakob Silfverberg
Jordan Eberle
Mark Stone
Artemi Panarin
Kevin Hayes
Wayne Simmonds
Just to name a few that are pending. |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Just read of pressure going up in Edmonton...Chia making moves
RNH, Puljajarvi, Ethan Bear
For
Okposo, McCabe, Nylander
Add to it as necessary - IonSabres
No way EDM does this
And no way I want RNH anywhere on this team |
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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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Just read of pressure going up in Edmonton...Chia making moves
RNH, Puljajarvi, Ethan Bear
For
Okposo, McCabe, Nylander
Add to it as necessary - IonSabres
Who is Ethan Bear?
Edit: nvm.
That's his real name, lol. |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Who is Ethan Bear? - Powerslave
just some indigenous prospect
he's no Trygve Many Guns |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I also wouldn't call Iafallo a sure thing, either. He has exactly a year and a half of NHL hockey under his belt, and has just matched a career high with 9 goals. - Powerslave
Good post
Although at 9 goals he would sadly be tied with pommer as our 3rd highest goal scorer |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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No way EDM does this
And no way I want RNH anywhere on this team - BeadyEyedDouche
Kind of surprised by your rea tion to not want him around...why is that?
36 points playing with Lucic and Puljujarvi; 14G / 22A
Two way player
Decent contract for 2 more seasons. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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never should have happened on new years day
should have made a deal with nhlpa and done it christmas day - homiedclown
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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We need to shift the focus off of the Sabres and onto Jimmy and Lockport IMO |
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devias69
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 07.29.2010
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Just read of pressure going up in Edmonton...Chia making moves
RNH, Puljajarvi, Ethan Bear
For
Okposo, McCabe, Nylander
Add to it as necessary - IonSabres
Garth, is that you? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Christmas would clash with the nfl sometimes though - Boss34
Not really, maybe 1 NFL Game
if Christmas is on a Sunday, pretty sure most of the games are moved to Saturday
last thing people want to do on New Years is sit on the couch unless they want to watch college football
everyone I know down here got out of the house
hell I opened up my fish room today for walk ins, made $400 while I got work done |
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