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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think Voracek for Stone/Panarin, Simmonds for Picks, and Ghost for picks/high level prospects. Resign Raffl and Laughton. Bury Weise and MacDonald.

You still have enough players to make 2 elite lines : Giroux, JVR, Panarin/Stone, Patrick, Couturier, Konecny.

Then maybe you get 2 from some of your farm teams that can play with Lindblom... Frost, Allison, Rubstov, Ratcliffe, Voroybov, Twarynski, Kase, Aube-Kubel, O'Neil, Farabee. Plus whatever young prospects you get on the Ghost deal.

Then sign a 4th line that can play a grinding shut down hockey style.

Defense: Provorov, Sanheim, Gudas, Hagg,

I would think one of Morin, Myers, and Freidman would be able to fill a 5th/6th if not multiple. And you sign or trade for one more....

Goaltending: If Elliot comes back and stays healthy resign him for 2 more years and Hart splits time with him.

This could be a very fast turn-around.

- youarewrong


I don't think Voracek for either Stone or Panarin would happen.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
Yeah, but uh, it came from Ek....
- BiggE

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
Would you trade Ghost for Stamkos this offseason?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
Would you trade Ghost for Stamkos this offseason?
- youarewrong


No. TB wouldn't either.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
Unless it goes sideways, we can probably forget about Stone -- Ottawa Sun reporting that he has told people that contract negotiations are gonna begin soon and he wants to stay put
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Unless it goes sideways, we can probably forget about Stone -- Ottawa Sun reporting that he has told people that contract negotiations are gonna begin soon and he wants to stay put
- AllInForFlyers


What happens when Melnyk opens with vet. minimum and a side of small fries?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
Unless it goes sideways, we can probably forget about Stone -- Ottawa Sun reporting that he has told people that contract negotiations are gonna begin soon and he wants to stay put
- AllInForFlyers

Yet EK has him coming here over staying there!
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Jan 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
It's tough to watch the Flyers right now. Changes must be made. Except for a miracle, this season is over. Time for Fletcher to make some moves.

JVR is invisible on the ice. No effort all from him. He was a young, lazy player when we drafted him and now he's an expensive, lazy player that doesn't bother to play defense.

If I had a nickle for every time the announcers said that the Flyers shot missed the net, I would be a billionaire. Does Ghost need glasses, because he can't get the puck near the net this season?

Rawful should never be on the 1st or 2nd lines.

Sorry for the rant, but watching the Flyers is driving me crazy.....

- Thors-Hammer


Your statement makes no sense apart from that it is tough to watch Flyers at the moment.Complaining about JVR and Raffl at the same time.
Raffl is on same line like Giroux because he bothers to play defense
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jan 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
Your statement makes no sense apart from that it is tough to watch Flyers at the moment.Complaining about JVR and Raffl at the same time.
Raffl is on same line like Giroux because he bothers to play defense

- goenzoy


I never understand the Raffl hate.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 2 @ 1:14 PM ET
Unless it goes sideways, we can probably forget about Stone -- Ottawa Sun reporting that he has told people that contract negotiations are gonna begin soon and he wants to stay put
- AllInForFlyers


Pretty sure they said same thing about Karlsson.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:16 PM ET
I think Voracek for Stone/Panarin, Simmonds for Picks, and Ghost for picks/high level prospects. Resign Raffl and Laughton. Bury Weise and MacDonald.

You still have enough players to make 2 elite lines : Giroux, JVR, Panarin/Stone, Patrick, Couturier, Konecny.

Then maybe you get 2 from some of your farm teams that can play with Lindblom... Frost, Allison, Rubstov, Ratcliffe, Voroybov, Twarynski, Kase, Aube-Kubel, O'Neil, Farabee. Plus whatever young prospects you get on the Ghost deal.

Then sign a 4th line that can play a grinding shut down hockey style.

Defense: Provorov, Sanheim, Gudas, Hagg,

I would think one of Morin, Myers, and Freidman would be able to fill a 5th/6th if not multiple. And you sign or trade for one more....

Goaltending: If Elliot comes back and stays healthy resign him for 2 more years and Hart splits time with him.

This could be a very fast turn-around.

- youarewrong


I think it’s a pipe dream to think that Voracek is going to get you Panarin and Stone. Flyers would be lucky to get Stone via a Jake trade. Panarin is an elite player...1st round pick-plus worthy, IMO.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:18 PM ET
I disagree. He put a team on the ice that should be challenging for a playoff spot. You yourself posted time and again that they were going to make the playoffs. This team is woefully underachieving. JVR was a goal scoring winger. That was a need on this team. Especially on the left side.
- MJL


I did say that but im not a gm. Theres a reason i dont get paid to build the flyers. I thought they would be but i also made the same mistakes. I expected 60 points from Patrick and Konecny. I thought they wouldnt get past round one because of the flaws but obviously cant.

Again im just a fan. Hextall is a guy that spends a lot more time watching the team and he's a guy that sees everything the tv doesnt show as well. By comparing my opinion to hextall you are basically saying hexy was just as qualified as i am to run a team
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 2 @ 1:18 PM ET
Ek reporting oilers, bruins, leafs with interest in Simmonds....maybe we land that 1st!! Oilers are interested that is sweet!!
- Just5


Shocked they aren't interested in JVR. From what I hear he's the cat's meow.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
What are you talking about? We were weak on the Left side prior to the JvR signing and desperately needed a pure scorer.
- SuperSchennBros


Sure when he has top level talent to do the work for him. Om sure things are a little harsher due to poor play of the team but right now hes just a scrub. He doesnt look good on the rush, doesnt manage the puck well and loses battles regularly. He's basically Simmonds except soft and we can understand what he says in interviews
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:28 PM ET
Sure when he has top level talent to do the work for him. Om sure things are a little harsher due to poor play of the team but right now hes just a scrub. He doesnt look good on the rush, doesnt manage the puck well and loses battles regularly. He's basically Simmonds except soft and we can understand what he says in interviews
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


That's not fair to Simmonds he's got punched in the mouth way more than JvR and if I recall had major dental surgery last year!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 2 @ 1:29 PM ET
Ek reporting oilers, bruins, leafs with interest in Simmonds....maybe we land that 1st!! Oilers are interested that is sweet!!
- Just5


Could you imagine the Wayne train in Toronto? Would make a scary offense scarier.

Of course he's an Ontario kid so it would be cool to see him go home with a chance to be a champion.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:29 PM ET
Could you imagine the Wayne train in Toronto? Would make a scary offense scarier.

Of course he's an Ontario kid so it would be cool to see him go home with a chance to be a champion.

- Pelle31Forever


2Real would be thrilled
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
Could you imagine the Wayne train in Toronto? Would make a scary offense scarier.

Of course he's an Ontario kid so it would be cool to see him go home with a chance to be a champion.

- Pelle31Forever

If they can land Kapanen for him then Fletch needs to pull the trigger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:34 PM ET
If they can land Kapanen for him then Fletch needs to pull the trigger.
- FreshFlyer


Don't think they'd get Kapanen or Nylander right now. Could probably grab one of Liljegren or Sandin, though.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:34 PM ET


Lol @ people calling ovi skipping ASG as disgraceful. Because skipping the Olympics and telling him he will be suspended if he goes and represents his country isnt ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:35 PM ET
I did say that but im not a gm. Theres a reason i dont get paid to build the flyers. I thought they would be but i also made the same mistakes. I expected 60 points from Patrick and Konecny. I thought they wouldnt get past round one because of the flaws but obviously cant.

Again im just a fan. Hextall is a guy that spends a lot more time watching the team and he's a guy that sees everything the tv doesnt show as well. By comparing my opinion to hextall you are basically saying hexy was just as qualified as i am to run a team

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



You're right, you are just a fan. We're all fans. There was no reason to not think that this team going into this season could improve off of last year and contend for a playoff spot. They finished 3rd in the Metro. If you think the point in saying that was to say that you are or any of us are just as qualified, you missed the point.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:36 PM ET
Lol @ people calling ovi skipping ASG as disgraceful. Because skipping the Olympics and telling him he will be suspended if he goes and represents his country isnt ?
- Tfaehner


And now he's suspended one game for missing the ASG.

Only in Bettman's world
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 2 @ 1:37 PM ET
If they can land Kapanen for him then Fletch needs to pull the trigger.
- FreshFlyer


They might be able to get more. I know he's struggling but his overall body of work plus his intangibles could land something more than just a player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 1:40 PM ET
And now he's suspended one game for missing the ASG.

Only in Bettman's world

- dragonoffrost


An employee violates the rules and has to suffer consequences as were set forth???

Say it ain't so!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 2 @ 1:44 PM ET
And now he's suspended one game for missing the ASG.


- dragonoffrost


worth it
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