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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:46 PM ET
An employee violates the rules and has to suffer consequences as were set forth???

Say it ain't so!

- jmatchett383


It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:50 PM ET
It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
- dragonoffrost


Exactly. I dont think ovi or anyone else cares about the 1 game suspension. And honestly I hope more players do it.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
- dragonoffrost

I'm pretty sure the suspension rule has been round for awhile. They didn't just make it up for Ovi.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 1:53 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the suspension has been round for awhile.
- FlyersGrace


It started when Sid kept saying I can't go because of lame excuse injury that really was a hope to get out of going so the league said you miss a game before or after the ASG if you don't go.

Now Ovi gets to choose to miss a road game against Toronto or a home game against Calgary. I'd choose Toronto if I was him and not travel with the team.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the suspension rule has been round for awhile. They didn't just make it up for Ovi.
- FlyersGrace


We are aware. But the players made a heart felt plea to keep the Olympics. Owners didnt care. It's all about money for them and they dont care about the players. So ovi saying well than idc about your all star game money grab as a captain and leading vote getter is big. Just shows the further divide between owners and players.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:58 PM ET
It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
- dragonoffrost


Is Betteman's job to grow the game of hockey or to grow the NHL?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
Is Betteman's job to grow the game of hockey or to grow the NHL?
- MJL


Wouldnt growing the game of hockey have a direct impact on the NHL? Lol.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
- dragonoffrost


32 teams is grown enough.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
32 teams is grown enough.
- Scoob


At least 6 of those franchises can barely sell tickets as it is.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Wouldnt growing the game of hockey have a direct impact on the NHL? Lol.
- Tfaehner


Sure and I anticipated that answer but since that's not what he gets paid for his first priority is to the NHL rather than something outside such as the Olympics
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
At least 6 of those franchises can barely sell tickets as it is.
- Tfaehner


Does that number include the Flyers?

lol

cry
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Nice quote from Trotz in Friedman’s 31 thoughts:

“I’m a builder, I saw this (team) as a great challenge. I told them I just experienced winning a championship, and I waned them to have that same experience. The way you do that is you play as a team, with accountability, structure and work ethic. We told them defence can be fixed, if you are willing to sacrifice the cheating in your game. All the guys bought in.”

We could have used this lol.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
Sure and I anticipated that answer but since that's not what he gets paid for his first priority is to the NHL rather than something outside such as the Olympics
- MJL


Part of being in charge is having happy employees and growing your business. If your industry grows and your the best company in your industry what happens to your company ? Second owners have long taken and taken from the players. How many more lock outs do we need before the owners realize they have to be more willing to negotiate ?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
Does that number include the Flyers?

lol

cry

- Scoob


Unfortunately they only count people who bought tickets not people who attend games so we are still top 10.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Sure when he has top level talent to do the work for him. Om sure things are a little harsher due to poor play of the team but right now hes just a scrub. He doesnt look good on the rush, doesnt manage the puck well and loses battles regularly. He's basically Simmonds except soft and we can understand what he says in interviews
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It’s a team sport. Every player has their strengths and weaknesses. What are your expectations for each player on a team? All must have the same high end skill that Giroux has? This isn’t realistic. Making any comment about how Simmonds speaks is ignorant in itself.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's all about Bettman's NHL controlling hockey. If they really wanted to grow the game the players should have been in the Olympics. But nope they weren't getting their way so the NHL players couldn't go. Now the whole charade that if you don't go to the ASG you get a one game suspension is a joke.
- dragonoffrost


While I don't agree with the NHL, they were under no obligation to let their employees go to an IIHF-sanctioned tournament at the NHL's expense. The rules of the NHL state that, if you miss the ASG without an injury, you are suspended one game.

Not a big deal and again, I don't agree with the NHL. But, as a private business, those are the rules. If the players don't like it, they don't have to be NHL players.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:21 PM ET
While I don't agree with the NHL, they were under no obligation to let their employees go to an IIHF-sanctioned tournament at the NHL's expense. The rules of the NHL state that, if you miss the ASG without an injury, you are suspended one game.

Not a big deal and again, I don't agree with the NHL. But, as a private business, those are the rules. If the players don't like it, they don't have to be NHL players.

- jmatchett383


I have no problem with the suspension. Especially since it was the Crosby rule after he got away with it for years. I hope more players sit the all star game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
Part of being in charge is having happy employees and growing your business. If your industry grows and your the best company in your industry what happens to your company ? Second owners have long taken and taken from the players. How many more lock outs do we need before the owners realize they have to be more willing to negotiate ?
- Tfaehner


What do NHL players have to be unhappy about? The reason there is a salary cap and there have been lockouts were because the players were getting upwards of 70% of the revenue being taken in. I think you have that part backwards.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Nice quote from Trotz in Friedman’s 31 thoughts:

“I’m a builder, I saw this (team) as a great challenge. I told them I just experienced winning a championship, and I waned them to have that same experience. The way you do that is you play as a team, with accountability, structure and work ethic. We told them defence can be fixed, if you are willing to sacrifice the cheating in your game. All the guys bought in.”

We could have used this lol.

- arichardson22


Completely applies.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
Don't think they'd get Kapanen or Nylander right now. Could probably grab one of Liljegren or Sandin, though.
- jmatchett383

Liljegren would be a heist that I'd welcome.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think it’s a pipe dream to think that Voracek is going to get you Panarin and Stone. Flyers would be lucky to get Stone via a Jake trade. Panarin is an elite player...1st round pick-plus worthy, IMO.
- BroadSTmayhem


It wasnt a "and" statement. And yes Jake could get you Stone plus considering Stone is on an expiring contract. Same with Panarin. Panarin will not sign in Columbus. They could take a 1st round pick that would be in the mid 20s and some other considerations, or they could take a 80 point a season player for the next 7 years.

There are deals out there that are not just trade Jake for a bunch of picks.... Doesnt have to be Panarin or Stone, but there are deals that could work for both teams....
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:39 PM ET
It wasnt a "and" statement. And yes Jake could get you Stone plus considering Stone is on an expiring contract. Same with Panarin. Panarin will not sign in Columbus. They could take a 1st round pick that would be in the mid 20s and some other considerations, or they could take a 80 point a season player for the next 7 years.

There are deals out there that are not just trade Jake for a bunch of picks.... Doesnt have to be Panarin or Stone, but there are deals that could work for both teams....

- youarewrong


Stones statement today sounds like hes re signing.

Columbus is going for the cup they wont trade Bob or panarin.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 2 @ 2:41 PM ET
Stones statement today sounds like hes re signing.

Columbus is going for the cup they wont trade Bob or panarin.

- Tfaehner


They better hope they win or Torts will be the walking dead by Thanksgiving.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
Stones statement today sounds like hes re signing.

Columbus is going for the cup they wont trade Bob or panarin.

- Tfaehner


This statement seems to contradict itself.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
Oh how soon we seem to forget....
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