whoa!...nice work, goosie
- Michael Pachla

I dont' know why the secondary scoring is such an issue all of a sudden. And I honestly don't know what the answer is. I think part of it has to do with injuries on the blueline to begin with, but that shouldn't be the issue now as they've all come back.

I dont' know why the secondary scoring is such an issue all of a sudden. And I honestly don't know what the answer is. I think part of it has to do with injuries on the blueline to begin with, but that shouldn't be the issue now as they've all come back.
- HonkFortheGoose

Okposo and Sheary are trash, Thompson and Mittelstadt aren't ready to drive their own lines but could be productive if they played with actual Top 6 level talent, Sobotka, Elie, Girgensons, Pominville, Larsson are either 4th line players or don't belong in the league at all anymore. Erod is possibly a 3rd line guy or lumped together with the aforementioned.

I think berglund is going to have a very successful second half and will be the unsung hero
- Boss34

I still can't believe they were able to completely divest themselves of his deal. He must've done something pretty bad to not even put up a fight. GMs were pissed when the Kings tried to void Richards' contract, and he tried to cross an international border with illegal narcotics. I haven't heard word one about this one.

whoa!...nice work, goosie
- Michael Pachla

Wonder how the D scoring was over the same period.

Similar to Thompson, lethal shot but can he put together at the NHL level.
- Pegullaville

maybe we'll find out next season...he's a right winger who may have been a good fit here in Buffalo if the sabres one-two punch down the middle was jack/ror...maybe that's why botts ultimately went with mitts, knowing that he'd need to replace ror...

just a thought...nothing more, nothing less

Wonder how the D scoring was over the same period.
- Woderwick

she considered anyone outside the top line as secondary scoring...if someone wants to do the research to refute her, they're more than welcome to

I actually just did a little more digging.

During the month of November, we scored 49 goals in 14 games. 18 of which were accounted for by Eichel, Skinner and Reinhart.

During the month of December, we scored 29 goals in 12 games. 18 of which were accounted for by Eichel, Skinner and Reinhart.

Yup, the 1st line has continued to produce where the rest of the team has not.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm with ya Goose. 👍

I dont' know why the secondary scoring is such an issue all of a sudden. And I honestly don't know what the answer is. I think part of it has to do with injuries on the blueline to begin with, but that shouldn't be the issue now as they've all come back.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think in the first half of the month, as a whole, they weren't getting to the dirty areas to score while the second half consisted more of missed opportunities and bad breaks...during the streak those opportunities were going in but the tables have turned....

I think they've been playing pretty well lately, the puck just isn't going in...hope they stay with it, and pick it up a notch...need bodies (yes, plural) in front of the net consistently

Wonder how the D scoring was over the same period.
- Woderwick

November - 8
December - 4

So that means they got 23 goals from the bottom 3 lines in November.

And 7 in December. Woof.

Okposo and Sheary are trash, Thompson and Mittelstadt aren't ready to drive their own lines but could be productive if they played with actual Top 6 level talent, Sobotka, Elie, Girgensons, Pominville, Larsson are either 4th line players or don't belong in the league at all anymore. Erod is possibly a 3rd line guy or lumped together with the aforementioned.
- Pegullaville

For me, Sheary has been extremely unimpressive.

I think in the first half of the month, as a whole, they weren't getting to the dirty areas to score while the second half consisted more of missed opportunities and bad breaks...during the streak those opportunities were going in but the tables have turned....

I think they've been playing pretty well lately, the puck just isn't going in...hope they stay with it, and pick it up a notch...need bodies (yes, plural) in front of the net consistently
- Michael Pachla

I agree. Things are frustrating right now, but as a whole they're not playing poorly. They just have 0 puck luck at the moment, whereas everything they seemed to touch turned to gold for the most part in November.

she considered anyone outside the top line as secondary scoring...if someone wants to do the research to refute her, they're more than welcome to
- Michael Pachla

No refuting...and agree it's all secondary scoring...just curious.

he need to go, but it hurts bad.

what about this would you trade

Risto for Willie Nylander?
- hehateme

Who'd have thought sitting out 25 games or whatever would be a bad thing? He's got 2 assists, both in the same game, 9 games ago and that's it. I wonder if they're female dogging about him as much as some here are female dogging about Sam(16 points last 12 games) or Risto(past few games, 10 points last 12 games)

November - 8
December - 4

So that means they got 23 goals from the bottom 3 lines in November.

And 7 in December. Woof.
- HonkFortheGoose

looks like you would have chosen tippet or vilardi
- Michael Pachla

read more

I said trade down (like you )

Brannstrom
Tippett

read more

I said trade down (like you )

Brannstrom
Tippett
- Sabresfan-365

must have missed it...

*shrugs*

November - 8
December - 4

So that means they got 23 goals from the bottom 3 lines in November.

And 7 in December. Woof.
- HonkFortheGoose

Oh boy...

must have missed it...

*shrugs*
- Michael Pachla

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=145120&page=33


I maintain we were right

Um

Patience?
- Boss34

You made that up. That's not a real word.

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I said trade down (like you )

Brannstrom
Tippett
- Sabresfan-365

Its a good thing the Leafs made the wild card in 2016 and lost to the Caps and didn't lose an extra 4 games and solidified their d-corps

- Michael Pachla

Egads.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=145120&page=33


I maintain we were right
- Sabresfan-365

That's good stuff. I was howling because everyone was bashing him because of his nonexistent 5v5 production. The pull-up thing wasn't great either. And then they went and picked him.

Oh boy...
- Woderwick

My thoughts exactly.

Not good. At all.

But, they're not getting the doors blown off of them by their opponents either, so at some point the tides will probably change again. In a long season, much of this stuff is pretty cyclical.

I don't think that calling guys up from Rochester is necessarily the answer, since it's not like any of them down there are banging on the door in the first place. Olofsson started the season hot, but has been fairly cold himself lately. Nylander hasn't shown much. And well, we've seen enough of Bailey at this point to know what he'll bring.

I think they just need to keep riding this out and hope at some point it changes. Hopefully Housley eventually pushes the right buttons and things start to click a bit more again.

That's good stuff. I was howling because everyone was bashing him because of his nonexistent 5v5 production. The pull-up thing wasn't great either. And then they went and picked him.
- Wetbandit1

it was also the birth of middlingstats (sbroads) and my first head scratch at botterill.

it has for me. I thought at the beginning of the year that we would be fighting for the 7th or 8th playoff spot, but that damn 10 game win streak shot us up the standings. Now we are coming crashing back down to earth. its just painful to watch....
- hehateme

They're not playing all the much worse or anything either. It's just the way the league is, everyone is so close together. Even the "bad" teams like Arizona and Ottawa and St Louis can beat anyone. Arizona destroyed Tampa 7-1? I think? earlier in the year.