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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
Who hasnt scored in a while on the Canes? I am sure they will pot one or two tonight
- corduroy


Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Let’s check with Dave Isaac
- funmaster18


lol - he's still employed?
LouiseLr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rickland, ON
Joined: 03.16.2013

Jan 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
Flyers twitter buzzing about Amac not on the ice.

Trade?
Waived to LHV?

Anyone have news?

- Marc D


Injured.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.

- BINGO!


Great the Flyers will lose 8-2 tonight
Xwrg12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.03.2019

Jan 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
If I am the GM there are 6 players on the roster I would not trade unless a team makes an offer that is too great to pass up offer: (like offering MacDavid, Matthews, Eichel)
1) Provorov
2) TK
3) Coots
4) Patrick
5) Hart
6) Sanheim

I know you are thinking “what about Giroux?” I would listen but the team would have to blow me away with an offer.

Of the prospects I would not trade Frost, Myers, Rubtsov, Farabee, O’Brien.

Anyone else is tradeable! Yes even Ghost! His pluses are he has a powerful shot and will shoot anytime he can. He is also very good offensively and quick skater and he works hard defensively and is a powerplay specialist. His negatives: his shot misses the net a lot, he is quick but he isn’t fast. His side to side movement is impressive but in a straight line he gets caught by a lot of guys and never catches anyone. He works hard defensively but he is completely ineffective not due to him not trying but one on one battles it is a joke he never wins. And when he is stuck out their against a first line it is basically a power play for that team—don’t believe me? How many times do you see him kill penalties? He is a defensemen that isn’t good at defense (like a pitcher who can’t throw strikes). Yes he is good on the powerplay but is he that much better than Sanheim or Provorov? There are teams that could use him (Edmonton for example) but he has his limitations and you could get a good return. (Simmonds and Ghost + conditional pick for Pulihaarvi and Nurse?)

Some guys I would trade for a bag of used practice pucks (Lehtera, Weise and Weal) others I would want something of value (Gudas for example).

What about MacDonald? He is a nice 3rd pairing defensemen with the right partner. He isn’t good enough to make up for a deficiency in his partner but he does ok with a guy like Gudas or Provorov because they play an all around game.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
In that potential scenario than why isn't every player on the team in the same boat?
- MJL


They should be.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
Let’s check with Dave Isaac
- funmaster18


😆 oh sh!t ,nice one.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 1:05 PM ET


Anyone else is tradeable! Yes even Ghost! His pluses are he has a powerful shot and will shoot anytime he can. He is also very good offensively and quick skater and he works hard defensively and is a powerplay specialist. His negatives: his shot misses the net a lot, he is quick but he isn’t fast. His side to side movement is impressive but in a straight line he gets caught by a lot of guys and never catches anyone. He works hard defensively but he is completely ineffective not due to him not trying but one on one battles it is a joke he never wins. And when he is stuck out their against a first line it is basically a power play for that team—don’t believe me? How many times do you see him kill penalties? He is a defensemen that isn’t good at defense (like a pitcher who can’t throw strikes). Yes he is good on the powerplay but is he that much better than Sanheim or Provorov? There are teams that could use him (Edmonton for example) but he has his limitations and you could get a good return. (Simmonds and Ghost + conditional pick for Pulihaarvi and Nurse?)


- Xwrg12


I'm really blown away by the number of fans who drastically underestimate the value of Gostisbehere as a player.

The Flyers have 3, maybe 4 players who when at their best can truly elevate the team and make them better. Gostisbehere is one of those players. He showed that when he was first called up and he showed it last season. The NHL these days is about skill quickness and speed. It's also about controlling play in the neutral zone and at the bluelines. When he's playing at this best, he is elite in the NHL in those categories. It's a mistake unless completely blown away to consider trading him.

What makes it more puzzling is when at the end a trade is suggested that doesn't fit with the analysis of the player.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.

- BINGO!



Winners
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
Do we think simmer will have a better second half, that maybe his recovery from injury affected the first half ??

He is not this bad

I was one who gave G that pass when he was recovering
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
If I am the GM there are 6 players on the roster I would not trade unless a team makes an offer that is too great to pass up offer: (like offering MacDavid, Matthews, Eichel)
1) Provorov
2) TK
3) Coots
4) Patrick
5) Hart
6) Sanheim

I know you are thinking “what about Giroux?” I would listen but the team would have to blow me away with an offer.

Of the prospects I would not trade Frost, Myers, Rubtsov, Farabee, O’Brien.

Anyone else is tradeable! Yes even Ghost! His pluses are he has a powerful shot and will shoot anytime he can. He is also very good offensively and quick skater and he works hard defensively and is a powerplay specialist. His negatives: his shot misses the net a lot, he is quick but he isn’t fast. His side to side movement is impressive but in a straight line he gets caught by a lot of guys and never catches anyone. He works hard defensively but he is completely ineffective not due to him not trying but one on one battles it is a joke he never wins. And when he is stuck out their against a first line it is basically a power play for that team—don’t believe me? How many times do you see him kill penalties? He is a defensemen that isn’t good at defense (like a pitcher who can’t throw strikes). Yes he is good on the powerplay but is he that much better than Sanheim or Provorov? There are teams that could use him (Edmonton for example) but he has his limitations and you could get a good return. (Simmonds and Ghost + conditional pick for Pulihaarvi and Nurse?)

Some guys I would trade for a bag of used practice pucks (Lehtera, Weise and Weal) others I would want something of value (Gudas for example).

What about MacDonald? He is a nice 3rd pairing defensemen with the right partner. He isn’t good enough to make up for a deficiency in his partner but he does ok with a guy like Gudas or Provorov because they play an all around game.

- Xwrg12


You lost me when you have TK and Patrick as not tradeable but Giroux is.
If you are going to go full tank like that then Coots should be in the would move list also.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
Do we think simmer will have a better second half, that maybe his recovery from injury affected the first half ??

He is not this bad

I was one who gave G that pass when he was recovering

- wcorvette


Probably.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 3 @ 1:36 PM ET
I'm really blown away by the number of fans who drastically underestimate the value of Gostisbehere as a player.

The Flyers have 3, maybe 4 players who when at their best can truly elevate the team and make them better. Gostisbehere is one of those players. He showed that when he was first called up and he showed it last season. The NHL these days is about skill quickness and speed. It's also about controlling play in the neutral zone and at the bluelines. When he's playing at this best, he is elite in the NHL in those categories. It's a mistake unless completely blown away to consider trading him.

What makes it more puzzling is when at the end a trade is suggested that doesn't fit with the analysis of the player.

- MJL



Your right.

I know Sanheim has an offensive game, as the player people think can replace Gostisbehere, but I don't think his offense is as dynamic. I think a lot of Sanheims offense is because of his skating and flow to the game. Gostisbhere has more instincts when on the PP and his shot is an absolute weapon on there. Both will always be guys that can bring offense...just think Gostisbhere will always be a more consistent threat there.

Might sound dumb when I say it but makes sense in my head and hopefully translate through.

Also Gostisbehere being on the deal he has for his game is a steal, especially when you might have to pay a higher value for Provorov. The Gostisbehere deal gives flexibility to build the roster.

I am not saying he is untouchable but I would need a major piece coming back. Tarasenko big. Top end talent.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.

- BINGO!



One if not both will get a hat trick tonight
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
Seriously. Did someone suggest today calling up young players from the minors, while already admitting we’re out of it and the Phantoms are still in the hunt for a playoff spot?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 3 @ 1:58 PM ET
Seriously. Did someone suggest today calling up young players from the minors, while already admitting we’re out of it and the Phantoms are still in the hunt for a playoff spot?
- SuperSchennBros


Counterpoint: I don't give a (frank) about the Phantoms' playoff position.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 3 @ 2:04 PM ET
Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.

- BINGO!


The replies to this are classic nega-delphia. Well done team!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
To be fair to Myers, he would need to
be heavily sheltered. He's better off playing top minutes in the AHL right now.

- MJL


I want Myers staying down now that terry Murray is helping behind the bench. Hopefully he can help push his defensive game and clean up his penalty issues
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 3 @ 2:10 PM ET
Everybody, really. If you only count forwards:

Teravainen hasn't scored in 4 games.
Foegele hasn't scored in 6 games.
Williams hasn't scored in 7 games.
Bishop hasn't scored in 8 games.
Ferland hasn't scored in 11 games.
Rask hasn't scored in 14 games.
McGinn hasn't scored in 21 games.
Maenalanen has never scored.

- BINGO!


Don’t come in here with this bull poop. We won’t be out tanked. Panzers and tigers as far as the eye sees
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jan 3 @ 2:11 PM ET
I want Myers staying down now that terry Murray is helping behind the bench. Hopefully he can help push his defensive game and clean up his penalty issues
- Just5

You don’t think Kerry Huffman helped?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
Don’t come in here with this bull poop. We won’t be out tanked. Panzers and tigers as far as the eye sees
- Just5


Oh we're not intentionally tanking, the team just sucks.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
You don’t think Kerry Huffman helped?
- Sinisalo4vr


Doing what he can I guess. It can only help having terry Murray back there too
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
Trade Ghost and don’t win that trade big time and you will pay for it for years to come.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
Flyers twitter buzzing about Amac not on the ice.

Trade?
Waived to LHV?

Anyone have news?

- Marc D


He got spun around on his way out to the ice and couldn’t recover in time.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Trade Ghost and don’t win that trade big time and you will pay for it for years to come.
- wcorvette


Yeah, I'm not sure where that one comes from. Ghost will round back into form. Provorov will too.
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