Well if Evander Kane is worth 7 million/year, than theoretically Connor should be worth 10. I think we will be very lucky if both Connor and Laine sign for 7. That's what i think both are worth.

This talk about Laine getting 10 are absolutely ridiculous.

Also, it was nice to see Bryan Little get some points yesterday. He's a solid 3/4 line player that shows up every once in a while. Interestingly Perreault, Tanev and Lowry all have either the same amount or more goals than Little.
- TheUltimateJet

The Ehlers contract is the starting point for Connor's contract, they should be very similar, perhaps a little inflation since Nic signed.

Unless Laine regresses to less than 30 goals this season he will be near the 10 mil range (+/-). If his goal totals are down at year's end my guess is that he will look for a bridge deal. Goal scorers don't grow on trees. Due to cap considerations the Jets will need to decide if they want to go down the road of winning with depth or if Laine is the guy to bring a top-heavy team to a championship, this year and next is perhaps the biggest foreseeable window for a championship with both top end and depth. No trades for picks and prospects, it's win now time.

Well if Evander Kane is worth 7 million/year, than theoretically Connor should be worth 10. I think we will be very lucky if both Connor and Laine sign for 7. That's what i think both are worth.

This talk about Laine getting 10 are absolutely ridiculous.

Also, it was nice to see Bryan Little get some points yesterday. He's a solid 3/4 line player that shows up every once in a while. Interestingly Perreault, Tanev and Lowry all have either the same amount or more goals than Little.
- TheUltimateJet

Evander Kane is a better hockey player than Kyle Connor right now. Doesn’t make his deal good, but if Kane is the marker we’re using, Connor is worth exactly what Ehlers got

Connor should be offered Ehlers’ exact contract, and nothing more. He’s struggling a lot right now.

Little will be the first Seattle captain, or a compliance buyout. By the time Chevy realizes he needs to go, Little will no longer a traceable asset.
- Rexypoo

I would be thrilled if he had a 6x6 contract like Ehlers!!! But struggling and still on pace for 28 goals, 30 assists is not too shabby. All I know is the kid has amazing hand-eye, tons of speed, good shot, good vision, durability......I would love 6M, but honestly consider him better than Nylander, Guentzel, and pacioretty, the most recently signed multi-year contracts at 6-7M AAV. That's why I would not be suprised if he goes for more. I consider him more valuable than Laine who will likely cost a fortune unless chevy does the smart thing and gives the kid a 2 year bridge deal.

The Ehlers contract is the starting point for Connor's contract, they should be very similar, perhaps a little inflation since Nic signed.

Unless Laine regresses to less than 30 goals this season he will be near the 10 mil range (+/-). If his goal totals are down at year's end my guess is that he will look for a bridge deal. Goal scorers don't grow on trees. Due to cap considerations the Jets will need to decide if they want to go down the road of winning with depth or if Laine is the guy to bring a top-heavy team to a championship, this year and next is perhaps the biggest foreseeable window for a championship with both top end and depth. No trades for picks and prospects, it's win now time.
- 2.0

I agree that Laine will be in the 10M range. It is nuts considering he is a terrible hockey player with a great shot. That being said, he is the 2nd highest scoring teen in NHL history, and will be getting paid. Hopefully a 2 year bridge is the short term answer, but if not, trade him to Buffalo for Dahlin and Tage Thompson. Thompson has an absolute rocket of a one-timer, and is a RH like Laine. With Wheeler and Scheifs setting him up, he could easily notch 30. As for Dahlin, he still is fairly unproven, but has a massive ceiling, and would be an asset when Trouba and Meyers depart. Not to mention two more years or RFA contracts to keep our book keeper from jumping off a bridge.

The Ehlers contract is the starting point for Connor's contract, they should be very similar, perhaps a little inflation since Nic signed.

Unless Laine regresses to less than 30 goals this season he will be near the 10 mil range (+/-). If his goal totals are down at year's end my guess is that he will look for a bridge deal. Goal scorers don't grow on trees. Due to cap considerations the Jets will need to decide if they want to go down the road of winning with depth or if Laine is the guy to bring a top-heavy team to a championship, this year and next is perhaps the biggest foreseeable window for a championship with both top end and depth. No trades for picks and prospects, it's win now time.
- 2.0

I highlighted this part as I believe you are bang on with this assumption. It was said that they will spend the money when the time is right and I believe that you are correct in the "this year or next year window". Upgrade second line center with perhaps some term, keeping Little as depth insurance, and try to land a D man with some term. Its time to crap or get off the pot.

I highlighted this part as I believe you are bang on with this assumption. It was said that they will spend the money when the time is right and I believe that you are correct in the "this year or next year window". Upgrade second line center with perhaps some term, keeping Little as depth insurance, and try to land a D man with some term. Its time to crap or get off the pot.
- CharlieDog

If Chevy can't get rid of Perrault, Little and Kuli's contracts, he could likely keep this wagon in tact. Perrault certainly has the most value, but perhaps packaging him with one of the others would make these moves possible. That would free up 13.75M AAV which would keep Chevy from more drastic measure.

I've been banging this drum for a while so I'll bang it again.

one of Ehlers or Connor will be traded this summer, and here's why.

our window is now yes, but we can not afford all the LW's we have at what they will want to be paid.
Ehlers
Connor
Laine ( yes I know he is RW but I think he eventually wants to play his off side )
Perreault ( at 4 mil on cap crunch team he will not be the one to go )
Vessalainen ( ONLY plays LW, and will be a full time jet in the top 9 next year )

then you also have;
Lemieux
Petan ( center or LW )
Copp ( center or LW )
Tanev ( if re signed plays both sides but shoots left )

we may lose both Trouba and Myers before next year and I have said all along Trouba will be traded for the best offer and that will more than likely be a top 6 forward thus creating even more of a log jam up front. the Subban for Weber deals are few and very far between.

after the Trouba trade I can see us dealing Connor or Ehlers to Carolina or Philly for a young D man. potential deals;
Connor and Petan to Carolina for Hamilton
Connor or Ehlers to Islanders for Dobson and a pick or prospect or Poluck straight up
Connor or Ehlers to Philly for Myers and a pick or prospect, or Sanheim straight up

I've been banging this drum for a while so I'll bang it again.

one of Ehlers or Connor will be traded this summer, and here's why.

our window is now yes, but we can not afford all the LW's we have at what they will want to be paid.
Ehlers
Connor
Laine ( yes I know he is RW but I think he eventually wants to play his off side )
Perreault ( at 4 mil on cap crunch team he will not be the one to go )
Vessalainen ( ONLY plays LW, and will be a full time jet in the top 9 next year )

then you also have;
Lemieux
Petan ( center or LW )
Copp ( center or LW )
Tanev ( if re signed plays both sides but shoots left )

we may lose both Trouba and Myers before next year and I have said all along Trouba will be traded for the best offer and that will more than likely be a top 6 forward thus creating even more of a log jam up front. the Subban for Weber deals are few and very far between.

after the Trouba trade I can see us dealing Connor or Ehlers to Carolina or Philly for a young D man. potential deals;
Connor and Petan to Carolina for Hamilton
Connor or Ehlers to Islanders for Dobson and a pick or prospect or Poluck straight up
Connor or Ehlers to Philly for Myers and a pick or prospect, or Sanheim straight up
- Ross77

i don't think either Ehlers or Connor will be traded. I think the time to win is now. I think Byfuglien will be traded before one of either Connor or Ehlers is. I see the jets signing Myers and possibly Trouba while offloading Byfuglien this summer. Byfuglien's no-trade/move clause expires this off season. I also see the Jets trading Little by dangling a Vesalainen to go with him, ala Armia going with Mason.

If Trouba is not signing here, than I can see the Jets trading Trouba to Carolina for Hamilton.

Just some Ultimate thoughts...

i don't think either Ehlers or Connor will be traded. I think the time to win is now. I think Byfuglien will be traded before one of either Connor or Ehlers is. I see the jets signing Myers and possibly Trouba while offloading Byfuglien this summer. Byfuglien's no-trade/move clause expires this off season. I also see the Jets trading Little by dangling a Vesalainen to go with him, ala Armia going with Mason.

If Trouba is not signing here, than I can see the Jets trading Trouba to Carolina for Hamilton.

Just some Ultimate thoughts...
- TheUltimateJet

I disagree with ya, If our window is now which it is, Buff is 100% more important than either Ehlers or Connor to keep around.

Little's play has gone down but he is no where near the anchor you portray him to be, if we could acquire another Center, Little would be an excellent winger in the top 9. and at 5.2 would not exactly be that over paid with the way salaries are going now. How do you think Little would do on 55's right side??? I'd say pretty good!!

Anyways, throwing in Vessalainen to get rid of Little is not even close to Armia and Mason, not even close and horrible asset management. I think Vesa will slide into Connor or ehlers spot quite nicely and at 1 million for 3 years and also Expansion exempt will be well wroth it for our cap situation.

I hope we can sign Trouba, I'm wondering with our window if the Jets have ever tried offering him a 3 - 4 Deal? We don't need to get everyone on 6-8 year deals.

Carolina needs Forwards, they will not move Hamilton for another D. They have Fox and Bean also ready to make the jump to full time NHL'er next year on D.

I disagree with ya, If our window is now which it is, Buff is 100% more important than either Ehlers or Connor to keep around.

Little's play has gone down but he is no where near the anchor you portray him to be, if we could acquire another Center, Little would be an excellent winger in the top 9. and at 5.2 would not exactly be that over paid with the way salaries are going now. How do you think Little would do on 55's right side??? I'd say pretty good!!

Anyways, throwing in Vessalainen to get rid of Little is not even close to Armia and Mason, not even close and horrible asset management. I think Vesa will slide into Connor or ehlers spot quite nicely and at 1 million for 3 years and also Expansion exempt will be well wroth it for our cap situation.

I hope we can sign Trouba, I'm wondering with our window if the Jets have ever tried offering him a 3 - 4 Deal? We don't need to get everyone on 6-8 year deals.

Carolina needs Forwards, they will not move Hamilton for another D. They have Fox and Bean also ready to make the jump to full time NHL'er next year on D.
- Ross77

Perhaps it will be a three way deal with a forward heavy squad or Detroit.

Perhaps it will be a three way deal with a forward heavy squad or Detroit.
- BookemDano

Yes, I forgot Detroit! they will absolutely be in on Trouba if made available, Rangers to possibly

i don't think either Ehlers or Connor will be traded. I think the time to win is now. I think Byfuglien will be traded before one of either Connor or Ehlers is. I see the jets signing Myers and possibly Trouba while offloading Byfuglien this summer. Byfuglien's no-trade/move clause expires this off season. I also see the Jets trading Little by dangling a Vesalainen to go with him, ala Armia going with Mason.

If Trouba is not signing here, than I can see the Jets trading Trouba to Carolina for Hamilton.

Just some Ultimate thoughts...
- TheUltimateJet

Byfuglien will retire as a Jet, he is a unique, valuable asset.

The Jets will push hard against the cap for 2019/20. The Seattle draft will be led to a higher price contract, whether that's Little, Myers, Perreault, Trouba, etc. Part of the decision for who stays and goes will be made by Seattle.

I still think that Ehlers is the most tradeable asset that would bring back a top 3 dman, maybe a #1c with aging or with baggage (ie.Duchene or Staal) but that won't help for cap. A draft day trade, unfortunately won't be a 'hockey' trade but a cap trade.

I disagree with ya, If our window is now which it is, Buff is 100% more important than either Ehlers or Connor to keep around.

Little's play has gone down but he is no where near the anchor you portray him to be, if we could acquire another Center, Little would be an excellent winger in the top 9. and at 5.2 would not exactly be that over paid with the way salaries are going now. How do you think Little would do on 55's right side??? I'd say pretty good!!

Anyways, throwing in Vessalainen to get rid of Little is not even close to Armia and Mason, not even close and horrible asset management. I think Vesa will slide into Connor or ehlers spot quite nicely and at 1 million for 3 years and also Expansion exempt will be well wroth it for our cap situation.

I hope we can sign Trouba, I'm wondering with our window if the Jets have ever tried offering him a 3 - 4 Deal? We don't need to get everyone on 6-8 year deals.

Carolina needs Forwards, they will not move Hamilton for another D. They have Fox and Bean also ready to make the jump to full time NHL'er next year on D.
- Ross77

Its okay to disagree. I don't think Vesalainen is ever going to be anything. Connor was drafted in a deep draft and should have theoretically gone top 10, as he was ranked, Ehlers was a top 10 pick. Both of their drafts were deep! Vesalainen was drafted late in a very weak draft. He has not accomplished anything and no way would I take him over Connor, Ehlers, Laine, Roslovic, Wheeler or even Appleton on the wing. So where would he fit in?

I would trade him with Little if it meant keeping all the forwards I just mentioned. Little is an anchor, the guy played with two guys who scored a combined 73 goals and he had 27 assists. And, I know most of those assists came of goals scored by other players. Andrew Copp had more success at centering Laine and Ehlers than Little did, you can even go back and check the record books for that.

We are all entitled to our opinions though.

Its okay to disagree. I don't think Vesalainen is ever going to be anything. Connor was drafted in a deep draft and should have theoretically gone top 10, as he was ranked, Ehlers was a top 10 pick. Both of their drafts were deep! Vesalainen was drafted late in a very weak draft. He has not accomplished anything and no way would I take him over Connor, Ehlers, Laine, Roslovic, Wheeler or even Appleton on the wing. So where would he fit in?

I would trade him with Little if it meant keeping all the forwards I just mentioned. Little is an anchor, the guy played with two guys who scored a combined 73 goals and he had 27 assists. And, I know most of those assists came of goals scored by other players. Andrew Copp had more success at centering Laine and Ehlers than Little did, you can even go back and check the record books for that.

We are all entitled to our opinions though.
- TheUltimateJet

Little carried the defensive responsibility for his line. He plays a consistently structured game that his linemates can depend on and build around. The drag on the line is Laine at (5v5). Little is not a natural playmaker, his best offensive moments are when he is shooting the puck. He is not the ideal fit for Laine but doesn't hurt you either. 5.5mil/year is a fair price for a 2b center. I am with Ross (and Rexy?) on this, would like to see him moved to wing in a couple years (but not yet)

Its okay to disagree. I don't think Vesalainen is ever going to be anything. Connor was drafted in a deep draft and should have theoretically gone top 10, as he was ranked, Ehlers was a top 10 pick. Both of their drafts were deep! Vesalainen was drafted late in a very weak draft. He has not accomplished anything and no way would I take him over Connor, Ehlers, Laine, Roslovic, Wheeler or even Appleton on the wing. So where would he fit in?

I would trade him with Little if it meant keeping all the forwards I just mentioned. Little is an anchor, the guy played with two guys who scored a combined 73 goals and he had 27 assists. And, I know most of those assists came of goals scored by other players. Andrew Copp had more success at centering Laine and Ehlers than Little did, you can even go back and check the record books for that.

We are all entitled to our opinions though.
- TheUltimateJet

Vesalainen may not be as good as everyone you listed, except Appleton, he will absolutely be better than Appleton. My main point was just in a cap world and Laine possibly wanting to play the left side paying three LW’s over 6 million is not good cap management.
I think Little would be a very good RW, and I’m on board with acquiring another Center to make it happen.
You are right though, we can all have our opinions, all good.

Vesalainen may not be as good as everyone you listed, except Appleton, he will absolutely be better than Appleton. My main point was just in a cap world and Laine possibly wanting to play the left side paying three LW’s over 6 million is not good cap management.
I think Little would be a very good RW, and I’m on board with acquiring another Center to make it happen.
You are right though, we can all have our opinions, all good.
- Ross77

Vesalainen left the Moose at a PPG because he said it was too easy, and has since been scoring at a high rate in the KHL. He’s likely a top 6 forward next year, and I will not stand for this slander