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Minnesota is closer to being in the playoff hunt than Edmonton is and they have a game in hand on us. Why would they do us a favor and make themselves worse immediately, for potential long run benefit?
And secondly, Spooner has 0 to negative trade value. They arent accepting that deal. It would be closer if you didnt include him.
3rd, Puj is approaching negative value now too. He cant produce in the show to date. Just because he has potential doesnt mean another team values him the same. The opposite teams have to look at it completely and say sure he has potential to be a true top 6, but he also has potential to be no more than he actually is now. Look at things from the other team as if you are the GM there too. - wreckage
Fair critiques but you misunderstand a few things. First, the deal is CLEARLY in the offseason. That's why I denote that Minnesota might want change after another mediocre season.
Next, Spooner isnt there to offer value; he's to help make the cap work. He almost certainly has negative trade value, but cap needs to be moved in any deal with us.
Third, yeah obviously but he's among the only asset we can offer that has a chance at having value. The proposition is more an estimate on the type of pieces I'd be prepared to give up. The deal essentially breaks down to Puljujarvi and Spooner for Coyle and the picks for Zucker, but I can certainly see why they may not love the offer.
I'll happily admit that the deal is undervalue and needs work. This is precisely the process by which "work" is done. Subject it to the scrutiny of public opinion and adjust accordingly. Perhaps it's foolish to pursue both in a single trade. |
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Yeah. It got reported by someone. So I took precautionary measures for your own sake (a diff. Mod could have banned you). - EdmHockeyMan
You are a merciful and benevolent mod.
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Yeah. It got reported by someone. So I took precautionary measures for your own sake (a diff. Mod could have banned you). - EdmHockeyMan
What a Richard that reported that. Get a life whoever reported that. That was funny.
Btw thanks. |
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You are a merciful and benevolent mod.
- Wildschwein
I loved that image. |
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I loved that image. - RafiDRW
“We must let go that which we love”.
Peter Chiarelli quote, shortly after he trades Nuge for Ceci. |
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“We must let go that which we love”.
Peter Chiarelli quote, shortly after he trades Nuge for DeKeyser. - Wildschwein
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Fixed. - RafiDRW
I’d prefer him over Ceci.
Now just add Carley and we have a deal.
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So I figured it out, Im gonna cheer for Anaheim tonight, since the team I always cheer for loses. Try some back wards witch doctor thinking. lol So does anyone have a clue as to why Vegas keeps sending down Pirri, hes on a tear. |
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So I figured it out, Im gonna cheer for Anaheim tonight, since the team I always cheer for loses. Try some back wards witch doctor thinking. lol So does anyone have a clue as to why Vegas keeps sending down Pirri, hes on a tear. - herecomesGUMP
1) Never. Ever. Cheer for the Ducks. EVER.
2) He’s waiver exempt and they don’t want to expose others who are not. |
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Just rumours for now (e5) but it’s being floated that Lucic might be benched for tonight’s game....we might as well have just left him in LA so he can hang out with his buddies |
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Russell is off of IR and Yamamoto takes his place on the IR |
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RafiDRW
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Just rumours for now (e5) but it’s being floated that Lucic might be benched for tonight’s game....we might as well have just left him in LA so he can hang out with his buddies - RatedR80
glad that lumox is sitting. |
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Russell is off of IR and Yamamoto takes his place on the IR - RatedR80
Jones back down? |
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glad that lumox is sitting. - RafiDRW
I guess we will see if it’s actually true but he got paid a touch over 73k for that game last night that he had no interest in playing......a lot of people don’t even make that in a year
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Jones back down? - RafiDRW
I can’t see that happening yet.....sounds like Russell will play with Nurse which leaves Jones to play with Larsson
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1) Never. Ever. Cheer for the Ducks. EVER.
2) He’s waiver exempt and they don’t want to expose others who are not. - Wildschwein
I use the ABC's of hockey, when Im mad at the oilers. Anyone But Calgary. But seriously, I hope they respond better than a half ass attempt that was last night. The waiver exepmtion makes perfect sense. |
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I guess we will see if it’s actually true but he got paid a touch over 73k for that game last night that he had no interest in playing......a lot of people don’t even make that in a year - RatedR80
Is it true there benching the 6 million dollar man. Thank god. Apprently he has all this pride and ambition. Hopefully this kicks him in the but and gets started, not turns him into a whiny baby, that sulks till he is bought out. |
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Is it true there benching the 6 million dollar man. Thank god. Apprently he has all this pride and ambition. Hopefully this kicks him in the but and gets started, not turns him into a whiny baby, that sulks till he is bought out. - herecomesGUMP
Nothing is true as of yet but it won’t be long till we find out....as I said it’s just a rumour....he could very well end up playing
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Forwards
McDavid
Drai
Nuge
Puju (AHL)
Yamamoto (AHL)
Benson (AHL)
Khaira
Defence
Klefbom
Larsson
Nurse
Jones
Bouchard (Minors)
That’s a decent foundation to build a team around.....put someone in the GM seat who has a true understanding of the game today and I’m sure they could make something of that....but nope Chia has decided to do the opposite - RatedR80
Totally, those 3 centres are probably top 5 in the league on paper. The foundation is there but maybe this season is lost. Tank and sell off as much as they can with a new GM/coach, call up a bunch of AHL guys to see what you have and go from there. Seems like the best option to me.
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Gonna have to give to get. Nurse for Saad.
BTW, you don't move out a Lucic, you buy him out because nobody will take that contract, never mind the player himself. - Dieselhead
Yeah probably, though the Leafs were able to move Clarkson which seemed like an equally immovable contract to me. If they can find a situation like that, that would be huge. |
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Totally, those 3 centres are probably top 5 in the league on paper. The foundation is there but maybe this season is lost. Tank and sell off as much as they can with a new GM/coach, call up a bunch of AHL guys to see what you have and go from there. Seems like the best option to me. - 13sundin13
Tanking hasn’t exactly worked out too well for us at this point I don’t see too much happening till the off season.....lots of dead weight to get rid of and it’s not like teams will line up to take it off our hands....in fact it appears that we are the team that takes on other teams dead weight
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Article from Spectors hockey suggests the oilers entertain offers for McDavid since the oilers basically suck at trading for players and can’t draft. Get a poop ton for him.
Top C. Top 4 Dman. 1-2 firsts. 1-2 top prospects.
Would you guys entertain the notion of a trade if you knew McDavid will not win a cup within his 8 year contract?
For poops and giggles I offered Kopitar or doughty (I’ll give you guys the choice). Muzzin. Kupari. JAD. 1st round pick (lottery protected). And probably another 1st rounder another year.
This is hypothetical. Don’t take this too seriously. |
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RatedR80
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Article from Spectors hockey suggests the oilers entertain offers for McDavid since the oilers basically suck at trading for players and can’t draft. Get a poop ton for him.
Top C. Top 4 Dman. 1-2 firsts. 1-2 top prospects.
Would you guys entertain the notion of a trade if you knew McDavid will not win a cup within his 8 year contract?
For poops and giggles I offered Kopitar or doughty (I’ll give you guys the choice). Muzzin. Kupari. JAD. 1st round pick (lottery protected). And probably another 1st rounder another year.
This is hypothetical. Don’t take this too seriously. - KINGS67
I’m not trading McDavid unless he demands a trade and refuses to play for us anymore....hypothetical wise a Leafs fan suggested a McDavid for Matthews + Morgan + 1st round pick....pretty hard to top that one I would say
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I’m not trading McDavid unless he demands a trade and refuses to play for us anymore....hypothetical wise a Leafs fan suggested a McDavid for Matthews + Morgan + 1st round pick....pretty hard to top that one I would say - RatedR80
Damn yeah that’s very hard to beat. I wouldn’t do that if I was a leafs fan.
As an oilers fan. I’d take it. Top center with a very good D man.
As a kings fan that’s probably my best offer 🤷🏼♀️ I’m bored and read an article thought I’d make a fantasy trade.
FWIW, no, I don’t think McDavid isn’t going anywhere any time soon. |
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