IMO team USA got screwed by having their first goal disallowed and may have been the difference in the gold and silver.
Of course they had ample opportunity to score a third goal but that doesn’t mean the disallowed goal didn’t affect the game.

You cant make this up.

https://www.bardown.com/f...sWuPYaaG_IoyuSNlYPUzYqxAE
- MBFlyerfan

Who thought this would be a good idea?

You cant make this up.

https://www.bardown.com/f...sWuPYaaG_IoyuSNlYPUzYqxAE
- MBFlyerfan

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's just friggin bizarre.

At least they're free to use it on JVR now. ❤❤❤
- Tomahawk

This team is frustrating. Why are we so bad in OT this season? We were pretty good before.

Tough loss, and the sad part is, I had no real hope that they’d win yesterday. Wasn’t even really that excited to goto the game, but I took my son because he wanted to go. Plus I knew I’d never get anywhere near my money back if I sold the tix. At least I got a picture with Gritty.
- jsh139

They suck in OT for sure...honestly I see other teams with a more consistent structure and plan against us on 3 on 3. I used to love 3 on 3, it was fun as hell when it happened. It was always man on man coverage when defending, the Flyers take a lot of chances to steal pucks and get chances and they are getting burned.

A positive for fans in philly is tickets are now dirt cheap and available. As long as your kid enjoyed it, it probably still worth it...gritty and all.

IMO team USA got screwed by having their first goal disallowed and may have been the difference in the gold and silver.
Of course they had ample opportunity to score a third goal but that doesn’t mean the disallowed goal didn’t affect the game.
- bird_dog_pa

Was a bad call. The fins worked like dogs...that’s how they beat Canada...worked harder, and waited to get their breaks. On a side note I don’t remember seeing O’Brien or St. Ivany once...the whole game?
That’s the problem with one game playoff...any call or mistake can cost you the whole tourney.

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See, this is what I don't get. If it's known that Simmonds (for example) is available, and it should be pretty apparent right now, wouldn't a team give up more assets to have him for 40+ games as opposed to 25+ games? The supposed "bidding war" starts when a player is known to be available, not 2 days before the TDL.
- jmatchett383

This plus every player doesn't see their trade value go up. You risk injury and losing value altogether. Simmonds is who he is, GMs know that so his value shouldn't change if he's in the midst of a 5 game goal scoring drought. But I do think role players who slump at the wrong time can see their value go down.

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At least they're free to use it on JVR now. ❤❤❤
- Tomahawk

LOL Stuck the landing on that one. That's a 9.8 out of 10

And the tire fire spreads to the PR department...holy (frank).
- landros 2

I’m sure hextall will catch the blame for this

I’m sure hextall will catch the blame for this
- corduroy

If he had only let the PR folks have pizza and wings....

No disrespect intended here to you or others who feel as though the best course of action for the Flyers is to wait until the TDL (and/or “tank” for the number one pick).
As a 40-plus year Flyers fan, it’s just really hard to accept this line of thinking — (i.e. to wait patiently, tank, or whatever). It’s simply not in the Flyers organization’s DNA. Wasn’t Fletcher brought in because Flyers’ brass was growing tired of Hexy’s overly-cautious approach, reluctancy to move parts, players to improve the team now?

Waiting until the trade line just doesn’t sit well with me...that’s weeks away!! Okay, so maybe this is not a Flyers team (as constructed) that can make a playoff run. But for Christ’s sake, it’s unnaceptable to me for them to just sit on their hands and wait until it’s convenient for others to make a deal.


- broadSTmayhem

Do you honestly think people are suggesting to wait until closer to the deadline because it is more convenient? The Flyers are not going to make the playoffs. The reason to wait until closer to the deadline is simply to get more teams involved and possibly get a better deal for an asset. Why is that unacceptable?

You need to find partners to trade with and every team is trying to find one to fill their needs. I think some teams will not overreact until closer to deadline. Injuries will happen over the next month and some teams will solidify their contender status.

I guess I'm trying to say that their are a lot of variables leading up to deadline. Typically once 1st deal is made, others follow quickly.

See, this is what I don't get. If it's known that Simmonds (for example) is available, and it should be pretty apparent right now, wouldn't a team give up more assets to have him for 40+ games as opposed to 25+ games? The supposed "bidding war" starts when a player is known to be available, not 2 days before the TDL.
- jmatchett383

If a player is made available and only one team is interested, how is it a bidding war?

No disrespect intended here to you or others who feel as though the best course of action for the Flyers is to wait until the TDL (and/or “tank” for the number one pick).
As a 40-plus year Flyers fan, it’s just really hard to accept this line of thinking — (i.e. to wait patiently, tank, or whatever). It’s simply not in the Flyers organization’s DNA. Wasn’t Fletcher brought in because Flyers’ brass was growing tired of Hexy’s overly-cautious approach, reluctancy to move parts, players to improve the team now?

Waiting until the trade line just doesn’t sit well with me...that’s weeks away!! Okay, so maybe this is not a Flyers team (as constructed) that can make a playoff run. But for Christ’s sake, it’s unnaceptable to me for them to just sit on their hands and wait until it’s convenient for others to make a deal.
- BroadSTmayhem

They will get more at the deadline rather than making a move now

"An orphan will find a home if the Flyers win in sudden death overtime."

Just bad all around.

The irony is this team could use a defibrillator in the locker room.

Do you honestly think people are suggesting to wait until closer to the deadline because it is more convenient? The Flyers are not going to make the playoffs. The reason to wait until closer to the deadline is simply to get more teams involved and possibly get a better deal for an asset. Why is that unacceptable?
- MJL

It’s unacceptable because we’re talking about the friggin’ Philadelphia Flyers, an organization that in the past had NEVER settled for mediocrity, and was — for better or worse — committed to doing everything in their power to put the best product on the ice sooner, rather than later.

Apathy is growing by leaps and bounds here every day. Maybe that will somewhat change after we get smoked by the Blues and Caps in the coming days. Just don’t see the point in accepting losing in the hopes the lottery balls will fall our way to draft Hughes.

We are sellers at this deadline. I think patience isn't bad necessarily. Playoffs are out of reach. Why rush to make a deal? We have players that could help a contender. Make us an offer.

If a team really wants a player like Simmonds (example) for playoff push they need to make a sweet deal for it to happen a month plus prior to deadline.

It’s unacceptable because we’re talking about the friggin’ Philadelphia Flyers, an organization that in the past had NEVER settled for mediocrity, and was — for better or worse — committed to doing everything in their power to put the best product on the ice sooner, rather than later.

Apathy is growing by leaps and bounds here every day. Maybe that will somewhat change after we get smoked by the Blues and Caps in the coming days. Just don’t see the point in accepting losing in the hopes the lottery balls will fall our way to draft Hughes.
- BroadSTmayhem

No offense but you haven't made an effective argument. Don't try and make the best deal you can cause were the friggin' Philadelphia Flyers.

So your plan is to sit idly for weeks and further distance the fan base?
- BroadSTmayhem

How much more can they distance it at this point?

You need to find partners to trade with and every team is trying to find one to fill their needs. I think some teams will not overreact until closer to deadline. Injuries will happen over the next month and some teams will solidify their contender status.

I guess I'm trying to say that their are a lot of variables leading up to deadline. Typically once 1st deal is made, others follow quickly.
- cdearth23

That’s probably another good reason you mentioned about the TDL. Some teams aren’t sure if they are buyers or sellers until closer to the TDL....what if the Flyers rolled of 14 wins in a row ? And moved into Playoff spot ? Not that it will happen, but it sure would change their narrative.

This plus every player doesn't see their trade value go up. You risk injury and losing value altogether. Simmonds is who he is, GMs know that so his value shouldn't change if he's in the midst of a 5 game goal scoring drought. But I do think role players who slump at the wrong time can see their value go down.
- five4fighting10

Yep. Say Simmonds goes down with a long-term injury next game, the Flyers get nothing for him.

I'm not saying move him now if there aren't good offer. But if you let it be known that he's available, I would be Fletcher would start getting some offers coming in.

It’s unacceptable because we’re talking about the friggin’ Philadelphia Flyers, an organization that in the past had NEVER settled for mediocrity, and was — for better or worse — committed to doing everything in their power to put the best product on the ice sooner, rather than later.

Apathy is growing by leaps and bounds here every day. Maybe that will somewhat change after we get smoked by the Blues and Caps in the coming days. Just don’t see the point in accepting losing in the hopes the lottery balls will fall our way to draft Hughes.
- BroadSTmayhem

No ones accepting losing, I’m sure Hextall didn’t as well. It’s how you get to winning and how soon. I think a new GM has a different view on how to get there and we will see some pretty big changes to the roster going forward. They could very well finish 20th and get that magic ball and draft Hughes....or they could draft 5th and get a kid like Elias Pettersson who appears to be far and wide the best player taken in that draft.

I’m sure hextall will catch the blame for this
- corduroy

Or Hakstol.