It was particularly bad, normally I just hate the refs and Kadri but last night
Frankfaces had to dig deep to find stats the Nucks were leading. First it was how they were winning faceoffs. Then it became 1 of the nucks was leading the game in shots when they were being out shot 28-20 and down 3-0.

Kadri is becoming the new Komarov, he always seems to lose the puck. Man he has to turn it around.
- Drapz

I think this stuff about bias is insecure hypervigilance on the part of Leaf fans, like every fanbase has about broadcasters.

Biggest contribution to the team Nylander has made so far this season.
- Thecakeisalie

It would be funny of it was intentional.

Parayko is a better fit but if the Hurricanes would take Johnsson, Sparks, Bracco and Ennis for Hamilton it would be a deal. They need a goalie and scoring. Johnsson and Ennis (which has been a pleasant surprise) provide immediate help but Bracco looks like he is going to be good. MacIlhenny, who the Leafs would like back, could mentor Sparks then the Leafs need to find a decent back up. Sparks looks like he will develop into a good starter.
- crawfordg

Normally I would say stop embarrassing your fellow Leaf fan with a proposal like this. However, with the return Erik Karlsson got, I'm not sure I can accurately assess a fair deal again. Perhaps you can load up on lower tier parts to get one good asset.

Toronto fans tweak out about Hughson and some perceived anti-Leaf tone to the call when they play the Nucks, just as hysterically as Nucks fans tweak about eastern media coverage, except the Nucks fans probably have more of a measureable point because of demographics.

Every fanbase thinks they hear bias against their team from the national broadcast voice, in every sport. Hughson doesn't do much for me as a listener but some of you guys are tripping balls about something that's actually your own fan bias in effect, it's hilarious.
- Zezel

Shut up, Zez.

Just worry about where you're taking me for our 8 year anniversary.

I think this stuff about bias is insecure hypervigilance on the part of Leaf fans, like every fanbase has about broadcasters.
- Zezel

Dude. Marner made Boeser eat poop for a minute and a half, and at the end of the shift, (frank)-stick Hughson comments about Boeser getting a well deserved rest on the bench after a great defensive shift.

It was an hilariously pathetic display of broadcasting.

Dude. Marner made Boeser eat poop for a minute and a half, and at the end of the shift, (frank)-stick Hughson comments about Boeser getting a well deserved rest on the bench after a great defensive shift.

It was an hilariously pathetic display of broadcasting.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Marner didn't score or set up a great chance on the play, because he was well covered despite how fantastic his possession was. They pointed out how difficult he is to cover, and the fact Boeser did it, which was exactly correct.

Shut up, Zez.

Just worry about where you're taking me for our 8 year anniversary.
- As_I_See_It

We'll go visit the ocean of tears cried by Leaf fans because Hughson is such a big meanie to the Leafs!

Also Mr. SUB.

We'll go visit the ocean of tears cried by Leaf fans because Hughson is such a big meanie to the Leafs!

Also Mr. SUB.
- Zezel

So there are 4 teams in the west and 6 teams in the east that I would say are safe bets to be out of it. Looking at their rosters other than the bigger names like Petro, Parayko and Hamilton, is there anyone else those teams have on defence that a trade could be focused around that makes sense for Toronto?

Was looking at NJ in particular. Not big name guys but , Severson and Santini interest me a bit. Don’t know much about them. Would they make the bottom 4 better or not?

Marner didn't score or set up a great chance on the play, because he was well covered despite how fantastic his possession was. They pointed out how difficult he is to cover, and the fact Boeser did it, which was exactly correct.
- Zezel

Boeser did literally nothing. Marner turned him inside out, multiple times. Just because you don't score on a shift, doesn't mean that you didn't completely dominate it.

It was a trap game for the Canucks.

Leafs were fortunate to face them on their 3rd game in 4 nights.

More examples of Hughson's ineptitude.

Boeser did literally nothing. Marner turned him inside out, multiple times. Just because you don't score on a shift, doesn't mean that you didn't completely dominate it.

It was a trap game for the Canucks.

Leafs were fortunate to face them on their 3rd game in 4 nights.

More examples of Hughson's ineptitude.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I think they marveled at Marner's possession, but Boeser did stick with him and keep him to the outside. It was a highlight shift by both players imo. They were also highlighting how Marner totally gassed Boeser. Anyway, I know I'm not gonna convince people that they're being biased about Hughson rather than the other way around, that's the way all fans react. It's like horoscopes, they're fun even if it's all imaginary, and you'll never convince believers otherwise.

I do find Hughson bland myself, although I like Simpson as a colour guy.

Toronto fans tweak out about Hughson and some perceived anti-Leaf tone to the call when they play the Nucks, just as hysterically as Nucks fans tweak about eastern media coverage, except the Nucks fans probably have more of a measureable point because of demographics.

Every fanbase thinks they hear bias against their team from the national broadcast voice, in every sport. Hughson doesn't do much for me as a listener but some of you guys are tripping balls about something that's actually your own fan bias in effect, it's hilarious.
- Zezel

Just against the nucks? You sure? It's every dam game. We hear more about the nucks on Saturday nights when leafs and Habs are facing each other. Nucks not even playing and they mention thrm 100 times and talk about the sedins.

They are utter trash. They can't get a call right to save their lives. " oh we have a leaf penalty here" nope it's offside you dummy.

The leafs are 2nd in the league and they talk about how weak the leafs are

Marner didn't score or set up a great chance on the play, because he was well covered despite how fantastic his possession was. They pointed out how difficult he is to cover, and the fact Boeser did it, which was exactly correct.
- Zezel

Chasing a guy for an entire shift and not bring able to stop him or take the puck from him isn't good coverage

Boeser did literally nothing. Marner turned him inside out, multiple times. Just because you don't score on a shift, doesn't mean that you didn't completely dominate it.

It was a trap game for the Canucks.

Leafs were fortunate to face them on their 3rd game in 4 nights.

More examples of Hughson's ineptitude.
- GreatGigInTheSky

This one was beautifully hilarious

Just against the nucks? You sure? It's every dam game. We hear more about the nucks on Saturday nights when leafs and Habs are facing each other. Nucks not even playing and they mention thrm 100 times and talk about the sedins.

They are utter trash. They can't get a call right to save their lives. " oh we have a leaf penalty here" nope it's offside you dummy.

The leafs are 2nd in the league and they talk about how weak the leafs are
- burn

Every fanbase thinks that about national broadcasters in every sport, because of their emotions. The bias is on the fans' part. Same with reffing complaints. Complaints about the league. Everyone's out to get the fanbase' team. It's adorable.

Every fanbase thinks that about national broadcasters in every sport, because of their emotions. The bias is on the fans' part. Same with reffing complaints. Complaints about the league. Everyone's out to get the fanbase' team. It's adorable.
- Zezel

Ok not the facts, just bias. Ok.

Hughson doesn't talk poop about the leaf all game and bring up Canucks and sedins when they're not even playing. He doesn't make exuses like "trap game here for the Canucks" he doesn't get names wrong (more than anyone else even old man cole who some said they can't listen to cause he gets names wrong so much) he doesn't try to find obscure stats to downplay how good the leafs are playing he doesn't mess up what's happening in the game all the time "we've got a penalty call here" nope it's off side you dummy.

Facts don't prove anything.

It's weird seeing someone talk about bias while ignoring the facts presented and his own bias.

As if I tie in the HB pool

Frick me gently

Every fanbase thinks that about national broadcasters in every sport, because of their emotions. The bias is on the fans' part. Same with reffing complaints. Complaints about the league. Everyone's out to get the fanbase' team. It's adorable.
- Zezel

It’s Captain R, just nod and agree

Ok not the facts, just bias. Ok.

Hughson doesn't talk poop about the leaf all game and bring up Canucks and sedins when they're not even playing. He doesn't make exuses like "trap game here for the Canucks" he doesn't get names wrong (more than anyone else even old man cole who some said they can't listen to cause he gets names wrong so much) he doesn't try to find obscure stats to downplay how good the leafs are playing he doesn't mess up what's happening in the game all the time "we've got a penalty call here" nope it's off side you dummy.

Facts don't prove anything.

It's weird seeing someone talk about bias while ignoring the facts presented and his own bias.
- burn

Even when the Leafs were up 3-0, Hughson kept talking about offensive zone face offs for the Canucks, and how many face offs they’ve won. As if that means more than the actual score.



But the two Canucks homers aren’t biased.

I think this stuff about bias is insecure hypervigilance on the part of Leaf fans, like every fanbase has about broadcasters.
- Zezel

I think the perceived refs bias against the leafs is complete bs, the refs are sh!t for all teams.

As for hughson and simpson, they are a little bias against the leafs, no doubt about that.

Ok not the facts, just bias. Ok.

Hughson doesn't talk poop about the leaf all game and bring up Canucks and sedins when they're not even playing. He doesn't make exuses like "trap game here for the Canucks" he doesn't get names wrong (more than anyone else even old man cole who some said they can't listen to cause he gets names wrong so much) he doesn't try to find obscure stats to downplay how good the leafs are playing he doesn't mess up what's happening in the game all the time "we've got a penalty call here" nope it's off side you dummy.

Facts don't prove anything.

It's weird seeing someone talk about bias while ignoring the facts presented and his own bias.
- burn

I don't have time to insert it (heh), so just imagine that meme of Gene Wilder from Willy Wonka listening condescendingly.

Every fanbase thinks that about national broadcasters in every sport, because of their emotions. The bias is on the fans' part. Same with reffing complaints. Complaints about the league. Everyone's out to get the fanbase' team. It's adorable.
- Zezel

No.
This is the first time ive thought that about the leafs national broadcast team. These guys were huge homers when they covered ca(frank)s games many years ago.
Theyre garbage.

Even when the Leafs were up 3-0, Hughson kept talking about offensive zone face offs for the Canucks, and how many face offs they’ve won. As if that means more than the actual score.



But the two Canucks homers aren’t biased.
- Dongull_Trump

They must've forgotten to mention that the mighty Horvat had a 38% fow in the game - and that lying baztard Snakevares was 75%...

So there are 4 teams in the west and 6 teams in the east that I would say are safe bets to be out of it. Looking at their rosters other than the bigger names like Petro, Parayko and Hamilton, is there anyone else those teams have on defence that a trade could be focused around that makes sense for Toronto?

Was looking at NJ in particular. Not big name guys but , Severson and Santini interest me a bit. Don’t know much about them. Would they make the bottom 4 better or not?
- reefguy69

Severson is absoultey horrendous defensively and the Devils fans would love to trade him.

Every fanbase thinks that about national broadcasters in every sport, because of their emotions. The bias is on the fans' part. Same with reffing complaints. Complaints about the league. Everyone's out to get the fanbase' team. It's adorable.
- Zezel

Your initial argument that there is a definite media bias towards Ontario, and Toronto in particular across Canada is well noted. You have nearly a third of the nation's population there, and there is no language issue surrounding the large populace - so it's going to draw the most media attention.

Ignoring the bias that Hughson brings to a game is silly. It's not just the Leafs. When he commentates a Cancuks / Oilers game, or a Canucks / Flames game - it's no different and ridiculously evident.

But in the case of Hughson, he does not like Toronto. Pay attention to how he delivers messages. If Toronto is playing Boston, and there's a Leaf penalty, he'll say, "And Boston gets a chance to take the lead."; if there's a Boston penalty, he'll say, "And Boston has to put their top ranked Penalty Kill to the test." If he mentions Toronto in these contexts, it's in a negative light - "The Leafs Penalty Kill which surrendered 3 to Boston in a playoff game last year is on the ice." Bias is demonstrated by the presentation of the subject.

Your point may not be too far off, though, because I recall always having a general feeling that Harry Neale couldn't stand Toronto either. His colour commentary was always negative regarding the Leafs, with the lone exception of Sundin. But in hindsight, I miss Harry Neale.