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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Blueshirts16
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Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY Joined: 07.28.2009
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#DROPOforKAAPO
The plummet is in full effect |
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disorca
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Location: NY Joined: 07.01.2015
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Not surprised/shocked of what is happening right now. This is why we should not commit to anyone long term and focus on replenishing the system and developing elite talent. Hayes/Kreider are NOT elite talent and will never carry this team to the promise land. You need a legit #1 Center, a legit #1 scorer to be an offensive threat. You have to trade off guys like Zucc, Kreider, Hayes, etc.. in order to tighten the odds we land a great player. Lundqvist will soon realize his only cup chance is out of town and the waiver finally appeals to him. What goalie doesn't want a cup? Don't give me this garbage and talk about his good guy routine. I don't feel bad for him 1 bit. Loyalty has screwed this franchise throughout the years and hasn't learned when to move on with these players. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Not surprised/shocked of what is happening right now. This is why we should not commit to anyone long term and focus on replenishing the system and developing elite talent. Hayes/Kreider are NOT elite talent and will never carry this team to the promise land. You need a legit #1 Center, a legit #1 scorer to be an offensive threat. You have to trade off guys like Zucc, Kreider, Hayes, etc.. in order to tighten the odds we land a great player. Lundqvist will soon realize his only cup chance is out of town and the waiver finally appeals to him. What goalie doesn't want a cup? Don't give me this garbage and talk about his good guy routine. I don't feel bad for him 1 bit. Loyalty has screwed this franchise throughout the years and hasn't learned when to move on with these players. - disorca
well I've been on board with trading Hayes because I think his trade value is through the roof, but he hasn't played the last few games and they have never looked worse, I actually think it kind of proves how important he is when you look at it that way. |
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Blueshirts16
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Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY Joined: 07.28.2009
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I’d trade anyone other than the kids on this team. Anyone!
I’d like to see them have 4 first round picks (Their one pick, Tampa wins the cup and we get theirs, and then 2 more from trades of Hayes and Zucc).
And if anyone really, really wants Kreider...get another first rounder plus
And if they could trade Shatty, I’d do it in a heartbeat
Complete overhaul |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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I’d trade anyone other than the kids on this team. Anyone!
I’d like to see them have 4 first round picks (Their one pick, Tampa wins the cup and we get theirs, and then 2 more from trades of Hayes and Zucc).
And if anyone really, really wants Kreider...get another first rounder plus
And if they could trade Shatty, I’d do it in a heartbeat
Complete overhaul - Blueshirts16
dude, there isn't a chance they can get a first rounder for Zucc
in fact, if someone was offering a 2nd right now they should absolutely take it and run and not look back |
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Dundee13
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Joined: 08.12.2014
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Freefall: heard T B comment this is what F F is like or when it started ....
well the freefall started when Gorts letter hit the media last Feb.
were throwing in the towel ..REBUILDING &SELLING ..
then u start the season with vets mostly who arent part of the rebuild....
or wont be when it actually starts .just because u traded off last deadline
what do we show playing today from those trades ..VETS like namestikov
our D is so bad why kep playing guys who aint gonna be a factor
CANT BELEIVE THE TEAM PAUSED IN REBUILD TO THINK ABIOUT POSSIBLE PO'S
whats happening to Zucc will get worse with team ,call it the law of diminishing returns ... the longer u waited to move guys the more chance of then losing value with team in a no win we dont have the talent to win team...
Gorts knew this & still sits on hands as deals get done in front of him
players losing value & no moves & play is BAD .. overwelmed is what i see
Buchnevich has more asst's giving other team goals set ups than with his own team
WHEN DOESA HE SHOW HIS TARESENKO LIKE SKILL
CHTYL ANDERSON HOWDEN ; when do they show there elite level of talent
that they belong in NHL as anything more than a 3rd 4th line player ?
Pionk ,Shey ,ADA gotta keep sumbody to play BUT the rest ? why are they here ?
get the kids from Conn and let em play
shatty ,staal smith,Clausen,Mcquad gotta go
# asap FIRESALE
this is nothing then a team abusing its fan base
i can say i have called it accurately from the start ,no defelctions just facts
WE ARE GETTING SCREWED ROYALLY BY NYR MGMT WITH HORRIBLE TEAM
WITH NO FIX IN SITE ... TOLD U ALL THIS IS A WASTE LAND TYPE SEASON
MAY TAKE ANOTHER DEAD YEAR ...CAN U IMAGINE THAT
GOTTA GET ACTIVE ,STOP HOLDING ONTO FOR THE BETTER PICK HIGHER UP
JUST DUMP THIS TEAM & REALLY START THE REBUILD ..... |
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Blueshirts16
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Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY Joined: 07.28.2009
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dude, there isn't a chance they can get a first rounder for Zucc
in fact, if someone was offering a 2nd right now they should absolutely take it and run and not look back - jimbro83
Absolutely!
I only said that out of hope. They did get one in the Nash deal so there is hope. I know they took salary back in that deal which is why they probably got the first... |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Absolutely!
I only said that out of hope. They did get one in the Nash deal so there is hope. I know they took salary back in that deal which is why they probably got the first... - Blueshirts16
that's another issue they have
you can only hold salary on two players and they are already holding salary on Spooner
so they have to be really picky which deal they do it again on because they can only have 1 more |
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Dundee13
New York Rangers |
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Joined: 08.12.2014
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Only issue NYR mgmt has is
Do you trade Zbad or Hayes ...... NOT keeping both as #2 center
Once You find a Grade A #1.....asap
Another NEW issue ..TRADE FOR BURAKOVSKY from caps ....OVER PAY a lil |
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Dundee13
New York Rangers |
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Joined: 08.12.2014
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I wish we had Pitts G M ,he is a lightening rod amongst G M's
Gorts like SLats aint gotten it done and aint gettin it done .....
I like Pro active guys who find & make deals ...
If Pitt ever pulled a "Rebuild" move it would implode the fan base & no one would come to see them ..No one in Pitt pays to see losing mastered for an indefinite period of time ...
the deals for Haglin & Kessel got them 2 cups + other great out of box moves
we never get that ,Vanilla close to the vest plans..# AFRAID |
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climbdenali12
New York Rangers |
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Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24 Joined: 11.18.2008
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I wish we had Pitts G M ,he is a lightening rod amongst G M's
Gorts like SLats aint gotten it done and aint gettin it done .....
I like Pro active guys who find & make deals ...
If Pitt ever pulled a "Rebuild" move it would implode the fan base & no one would come to see them ..No one in Pitt pays to see losing mastered for an indefinite period of time ...
the deals for Haglin & Kessel got them 2 cups + other great out of box moves
we never get that ,Vanilla close to the vest plans..# AFRAID - Dundee13
The Rangers management could have given up whatever to get Hagelin and Kessel and it would not have mattered in regards to winning because we didn't have a Crosby and Malkin.
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mrn22
New York Rangers |
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Location: CT Joined: 05.22.2014
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well I've been on board with trading Hayes because I think his trade value is through the roof, but he hasn't played the last few games and they have never looked worse, I actually think it kind of proves how important he is when you look at it that way. - jimbro83
what do you think the return on Kreider would be? |
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climbdenali12
New York Rangers |
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Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24 Joined: 11.18.2008
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what do you think the return on Kreider would be? - mrn22
I would say a 1st, an A prospect, and then some filler B prospect to start...depending on the market and the desperation of a team maybe more. Any acquiring team would be getting him for 2 Postseason in theory so similar to McDonagh in that regard
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Dundee13
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Joined: 08.12.2014
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The Rangers management could have given up whatever to get Hagelin and Kessel and it would not have mattered in regards to winning because we didn't have a Crosby and Malkin. - climbdenali12
Missed the pt.
Pitt GM identified his teams needs & went out of the box against what pundits called good deals to get players who had /have the talent & fit in...
we never try that here ,always gotta get top value or dont want to take a move and
finish it
I E trade for Nash but never get him the top center to play with
Attempt with Old man Richards never panned out , never tried again...
why get Nash when you dont surround him with grade A talent to play with
we never have had a top center since ... Messier , havent won a cup since too .... |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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what do you think the return on Kreider would be? - mrn22
I think its time you change the avatar |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Missed the pt.
Pitt GM identified his teams needs & went out of the box against what pundits called good deals to get players who had /have the talent & fit in...
we never try that here ,always gotta get top value or dont want to take a move and
finish it
I E trade for Nash but never get him the top center to play with
Attempt with Old man Richards never panned out , never tried again...
why get Nash when you dont surround him with grade A talent to play with
we never have had a top center since ... Messier , havent won a cup since too .... - Dundee13
I disagree. The Rangers went out and made a bunch of trades to try and get them over the top. It's part of the reason they didn't have a 1st round pick from like 2013-2016 or whatever the years were. Sometimes trades don't work out, its part of the risk.
Also its extremely hard to find top line centers.
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mrn22
New York Rangers |
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Location: CT Joined: 05.22.2014
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I think its time you change the avatar - TPC
you're probably right man
I love Kreider but if they can sell high on him and resign Hayes then Im doing it |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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you're probably right man
I love Kreider but if they can sell high on him and resign Hayes then Im doing it - mrn22
I have already dug my hole on this...I have to take Kreider to the grave with me. Legit we will share a coffin |
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Bobd62
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Location: Hauppauge, NY Joined: 11.14.2015
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It’s a shame nyr won’t hire Dundee as gm! If he was we would win the Stanley cup next year! He has all the answers! |
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mrn22
New York Rangers |
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Location: CT Joined: 05.22.2014
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I have already dug my hole on this...I have to take Kreider to the grave with me. Legit we will share a coffin - TPC
ya true you are chained to him
I just think about his next deal and what kinda money he is going to be making while starting the deal at 29... |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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ya true you are chained to him
I just think about his next deal and what kinda money he is going to be making while starting the deal at 29... - mrn22
Yea if he gets close to 40 goals this year and next year it won't be cheap |
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Pronman on Hughes and Kakko:
Jack Hughes, C, USA, 2019: Jack Hughes missed half of the tournament due to an injury, but when he was healthy he played well and USA’s coach trusted him with plenty of ice time. His skating is off the charts and anytime he’s around the play he adds an extra gear to the pace. He showed flashes of his playmaking ability but it wasn’t consistent. He didn’t hurt his draft stock but didn’t do a ton to move the needle.
Kaapo Kakko, LW, Finland, 2019: Kakko scored the Golden Goal but also was an important player for Finland throughout the tournament. He showed a lot of skill and offensive creativity and made some unique plays. He combined that by showing he could overpower guys despite being a double underage, just as he’s done versus men. His speed’s never been great for me but he looked pro-average here. His strong tournament and great Liiga season combined with his skills have made me think the top of the draft is a 1A/1B situation. |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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you're probably right man
I love Kreider but if they can sell high on him and resign Hayes then Im doing it - mrn22
I do every thing I can to trade Zib and keep Hayes and Kreids together |
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