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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
Barkann saying Provorov is Markelle Fultz. Ouch!

They both do have shoulder issues...

- StepfordSam



Which is ridiculous as I think Fultz is going to go down as one of the biggest busts in sports history ever.

Provy has already had 2 solid seasons.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
I thought Sanheim and Hart played well tonight.
- ggunky


I agree. Sanheim stood out.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
Holy poop Clemson crushing Bama
- dragonoffrost



and I am LOVING! every second of it!

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:05 PM ET
Hart is the real deal. (frank)ing kid is killing this scrum.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:06 PM ET
I’ve heard for the past few weeks how bad Schenn is and what a mess the Blues are. We’re worse. We were shutout by a goalie in his first ever game with a bad team.

We’re worse. Let that sink in.

- SuperSchennBros


That’s what’s scary....the blues are a train wreck....and we just got out played out hustled and smoked at home by them....guys are just waiting for shoes to fall....as much as we are.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:06 PM ET
Giroux has been guilty of lazy plays and poor efforts on the back check all season. In the Calgary game it was his bad change that led to the Gaudreau goal. The entire team is dysfunctional. Yes, it is a witch hunt to run a player out of town. After every loss he is called out repeatedly. The team has lost what 6 games in a row and is at the bottom of the NHL and you are actually trying to make this case? Seriously? There are lots if issues with this team. It is asinine and absurd for anyone to focus blame on one player with the game they played tonight and the way the team has played pretty much all season.
- MJL


You also seem to ignore the other player who did the same thing. Again no one is saying Giroux isnt guilty of bad plays. NHL players are still human. The fact which you seem to ignore when its convienient for you is Simmonds isnt doing anything. What is Simmonds doing to get the team on the right track? Nothing. Giroux at least has a PPG which helps the team more than it hurts the team. Simmonds is guilty of the SAME lazy plays and he is not chipping in offensively. He is by far the worst player when it comes to puck management as well.

This has NOTHING to do with Giroux. Simmonds has people frustrated because he is easily the worst player on the ice and that says a lot with guys like Weal, Folin, AMac and Weise out there.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 7 @ 10:06 PM ET
Don't remind me scouts watched this game.
- hereticpride


As per Darren Dreger, the Preds just traded a first and a third to the Flyers for Taryn Hatcher.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:07 PM ET
Giroux has been guilty of lazy plays and poor efforts on the back check all season. In the Calgary game it was his bad change that led to the Gaudreau goal. The entire team is dysfunctional. Yes, it is a witch hunt to run a player out of town. After every loss he is called out repeatedly. The team has lost what 6 games in a row and is at the bottom of the NHL and you are actually trying to make this case? Seriously? There are lots if issues with this team. It is asinine and absurd for anyone to focus blame on one player with the game they played tonight and the way the team has played pretty much all season.
- MJL

i didn't see one person blame Simmonds for the loss tonight. so it's asinine and absurd to call out terrible play when you see it unless it's Giroux? what are you saying to me right now? if you don't want to talk about individual play then you don't have to put your opinion in. it's easy to say "the whole team is a mess right now" then blame people for scapegoating players. it's easy to nitpick Giroux who at least is doing something out there most nights but ignore guys like Simmonds and JVR who looks completely lost most nights aside from the occasional net front goal in a losing effort.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:08 PM ET
In the game tonight Voracek was one of the few players who played with any intensity. He was trying to make something happen all game but they're so disconnected as a team that everything is to the outside. Nobody in the middle of the ice.
- MJL
I think the team is at the point where it’s going to move on from Giroux and Voracek and with good cause.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 7 @ 10:08 PM ET
As per Darren Dreger, the Preds just traded a first and a third to the Flyers for Taryn Hatcher.
- 77rams


If true Fletcher got fleeced big time
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:08 PM ET
Which is ridiculous as I think Fultz is going to go down as one of the biggest busts in sports history ever.

Provy has already had 2 solid seasons.

- opeth_pa


I agree no comparison. I just think they should real Provy in a bit with the ice time. We all know how talented he is...take some pressure off of him and let him work his game back.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 10:09 PM ET
Guys, it's fine.

They just need to get some pucks deep.

It's all fine.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 7 @ 10:09 PM ET
You also seem to ignore the other player who did the same thing. Again no one is saying Giroux isnt guilty of bad plays. NHL players are still human. The fact which you seem to ignore when its convienient for you is Simmonds isnt doing anything. What is Simmonds doing to get the team on the right track? Nothing. Giroux at least has a PPG which helps the team more than it hurts the team. Simmonds is guilty of the SAME lazy plays and he is not chipping in offensively. He is by far the worst player when it comes to puck management as well.

This has NOTHING to do with Giroux. Simmonds has people frustrated because he is easily the worst player on the ice and that says a lot with guys like Weal, Folin, AMac and Weise out there.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



What did Simmonds do that made him worse then Coots or JVR tonight?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:09 PM ET
How are you going to focus on Simmonds when the Golden Child is just as useless and took a dumb penalty to kill a power play?

How are you going to focus on SImmonds when Jake, JVR, NOPA are useless this season?

- opeth_pa

you're right about every single one of those guys and we can talk about all of them as well
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:10 PM ET
As per Darren Dreger, the Preds just traded a first and a third to the Flyers for Taryn Hatcher.
- 77rams



I got excited for a second....never mind.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 7 @ 10:10 PM ET
Guys, it's fine.

They just need to get some pucks deep.

It's all fine.

- johndewar


lol

And on that note, I'm out for the night.

peace
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:10 PM ET
Guys, it's fine.

They just need to get some pucks deep.

It's all fine.

- johndewar


Deep behind the goalie. Somewhere between the boards and the goalies back is preferable
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:11 PM ET
As per Darren Dreger, the Preds just traded a first and a third to the Flyers for Taryn Hatcher.
- 77rams


Another trade happened after:

Flyers send Simmonds, JvR, 2019 1st (Flyers), 2019 1st (Nashville) to Arizona for Future considerations.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 7 @ 10:11 PM ET
What did Simmonds do that made him worse then Coots or JVR tonight?
- opeth_pa


I remember the good ole days when we just debated how bad Amac was.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 7 @ 10:12 PM ET
I got excited for a second....never mind.
- landros 2


I didnt as the last thing I want to see is a Provy, Sanheim, Ghost, TK moved for some 31 year old player to try and move them up 3 slots in the standings this season.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:12 PM ET
I remember the good ole days when we just debated how bad Amac was.
- landros 2

Provy needs A Mac...
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
Guys, it's fine.

They just need to get some pucks deep.

It's all fine.

- johndewar


FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jan 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
Hart is the real deal. (frank)ing kid is killing this scrum.
- dragonoffrost

He really is impressive the way he handles himself. Don't change kid.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jan 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
For anyone here or anywhere else insisting it’s best to wait until the deadline to move Simmonds is just plain ridiculous. He shows no sign of a pulse, isn’t finishing checks, he’s losing puck battles (when he’s not stumbling and falling on the ice after being untouched), and adding nothing whatsoever to the roster. Get what you can for him NOW! I’d much rather have a 3rd or 4th line player who gives a rat’s a** and is hungry to compete. Odds were slim anyway the Flyers could get a 1st rd pick at the deadline (as some here have suggested — really?)...zero chance of that in light of the way Simmonds is playing now.

If Simmer doesn’t step up and play physical against the Caps tomorrow, he deserves whatever Tom Wilson (legal or otherwise) dishes out.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
That’s what’s scary....the blues are a train wreck....and we just got out played out hustled and smoked at home by them....guys are just waiting for shoes to fall....as much as we are.
- landros 2

We’re a train wreck. We’re not just worse, we’re a lot worse.
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