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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
You are so clueless it’s fun. He wasn’t good enough to play a regular shift. So he was banished to Finland. At his age, and given his poor performance, he can be writtten off as a future prospect.
- CanuckDon

Donna, you are the last person that should ever tell anyone that they are clueless. The things you spew on here.

If you'd like to defend yourself in this matter, go ahead. I won't be paying attention.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
You are so clueless it’s fun. He wasn’t good enough to play a regular shift. So he was banished to Finland. At his age, and given his poor performance, he can be writtten off as a future prospect.
- CanuckDon


there is so much more to this than "Cull and Johnson treated him poorly and now he retreated" . There were 6 rookies wingers to Utica this season and 8 open spots. Of those 8 spots, those 6 rookies had to "beat out" Boucher/MacEwen/Gaunce/Archibald/Carcone/Bancks. Palmu may or may not had been given a fair shot, we won't really know cause we have no idea what the internal discussions are, but based off of the production of Lind/Palmu/Gadjovich in their rookie seasons, its not far fetched to believe that they all have been struggling to some degree. CoryHergott (great Utica guy) was able to bring the media and unstable fans back to reality with some facts on this. Palmu/Gadjo/Lind all had rude awakenings and didn't deserve to be in the lineup over other guys, not much more to it than that.

inserting 3/4 of your winger positions with prospects new to the pro game isn't development.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
Erik Karlsson has 38 points in 42 games
- Nucker101


Bust
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:06 PM ET
there is so much more to this than "Cull and Johnson treated him poorly and now he retreated" . There were 6 rookies wingers to Utica this season and 8 open spots. Of those 8 spots, those 6 rookies had to "beat out" Boucher/MacEwen/Gaunce/Archibald/Carcone/Bancks. Palmu may or may not had been given a fair shot, we won't really know cause we have no idea what the internal discussions are, but based off of the production of Lind/Palmu/Gadjovich in their rookie seasons, its not far fetched to believe that they all have been struggling to some degree. CoryHergott (great Utica guy) was able to bring the media and unstable fans back to reality with some facts on this. Palmu/Gadjo/Lind all had rude awakenings and didn't deserve to be in the lineup over other guys, not much more to it than that.

inserting 3/4 of your winger positions with prospects new to the pro game isn't development.

- Codes1087


This is BS, any Canuck rookie who doesn't score 30 goals is a bust.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
This is BS, any Canuck rookie who doesn't score 30 goals is a bust.
- 1970vintage


the new bust pre-requisite
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
there is so much more to this than "Cull and Johnson treated him poorly and now he retreated" . There were 6 rookies wingers to Utica this season and 8 open spots. Of those 8 spots, those 6 rookies had to "beat out" Boucher/MacEwen/Gaunce/Archibald/Carcone/Bancks. Palmu may or may not had been given a fair shot, we won't really know cause we have no idea what the internal discussions are, but based off of the production of Lind/Palmu/Gadjovich in their rookie seasons, its not far fetched to believe that they all have been struggling to some degree. CoryHergott (great Utica guy) was able to bring the media and unstable fans back to reality with some facts on this. Palmu/Gadjo/Lind all had rude awakenings and didn't deserve to be in the lineup over other guys, not much more to it than that.

inserting 3/4 of your winger positions with prospects new to the pro game isn't development.

- Codes1087

If they didn't deserve to play why has Van kept them up and not send them back to junior would be the question then?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:10 PM ET
Donna, you are the last person that should ever tell anyone that they are clueless. The things you spew on here.

If you'd like to defend yourself in this matter, go ahead. I won't be paying attention.

- manvanfan

You are an idiot Minivan. Write this in your creepy novel
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:11 PM ET
If they didn't deserve to play why has Van kept them up and not send them back to junior would be the question then?
- manvanfan


Trent Cull has so many new kids and prospects, I imagine he is still trying to figure them out. If Palmu wasn't playing, then going back to Finland getting top line minutes is probably the next best thing for him, so i don't see it as a negative. If Gadjovich isn't finding his game at the pro level, going back to Junior as over-ager wouldn't be a bad thing either imo. Its easy to spin these things as a negative, but really, they aren't a big deal. He had 7 or 8 new kids, even by the 40 game mark, it would be hard to fully grasp their capabilities/strengths/weaknesses in such a short time frame.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
there is so much more to this than "Cull and Johnson treated him poorly and now he retreated" . There were 6 rookies wingers to Utica this season and 8 open spots. Of those 8 spots, those 6 rookies had to "beat out" Boucher/MacEwen/Gaunce/Archibald/Carcone/Bancks. Palmu may or may not had been given a fair shot, we won't really know cause we have no idea what the internal discussions are, but based off of the production of Lind/Palmu/Gadjovich in their rookie seasons, its not far fetched to believe that they all have been struggling to some degree. CoryHergott (great Utica guy) was able to bring the media and unstable fans back to reality with some facts on this. Palmu/Gadjo/Lind all had rude awakenings and didn't deserve to be in the lineup over other guys, not much more to it than that.

inserting 3/4 of your winger positions with prospects new to the pro game isn't development.

- Codes1087

Well Palmu was drafted in his D+1 season and had already spent a year playing against men. The fact he couldn’t make any sort of impact with Utica likely means he is done as a prospect. 6th rounder, who cares. Lind and Gadjovich have been lousy as well but they are younger and new to pro hockey so they deserve a longer leash
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
Well Palmu was drafted in his D+1 season and had already spent a year playing against men. The fact he couldn’t make any sort of impact with Utica likely means he is done as a prospect. 6th rounder, who cares. Lind and Gadjovich have been lousy as well but they are younger and new to pro hockey so they deserve a longer leash
- CanuckDon


i definitely won't be losing sleep over Palmu going to Finland to play lol.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
i definitely won't be losing sleep over Palmu going to Finland to play lol.
- Codes1087

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...owiecki-drops-pettersson/

I love how sports net has this hit on EP as one of the best hits of the week. The puck was 30 feet away lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
i definitely won't be losing sleep over Palmu going to Finland to play lol.
- Codes1087

Everyone seems to pull for the smurfs around here...I cheer against them because they freak me out. Palmu will be out of a hockey within two years and he will become a notorious pick pocketer in Amsterdam
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
Everyone seems to pull for the smurfs around here...I cheer against them because they freak me out. Palmu will be out of a hockey within two years and he will become a notorious pick pocketer in Amsterdam
- CanuckDon

Your profile pic is becoming more relevant by the day
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Trent Cull has so many new kids and prospects, I imagine he is still trying to figure them out. If Palmu wasn't playing, then going back to Finland getting top line minutes is probably the next best thing for him, so i don't see it as a negative. If Gadjovich isn't finding his game at the pro level, going back to Junior as over-ager wouldn't be a bad thing either imo. Its easy to spin these things as a negative, but really, they aren't a big deal. He had 7 or 8 new kids, even by the 40 game mark, it would be hard to fully grasp their capabilities/strengths/weaknesses in such a short time frame.
- Codes1087

I'd agree with this for sure. The only part that concerns me is that it sounds like it wasn't properly communicated to him what he needed to do better. It may be a red herring but if that is the case with other, higher potential prospects it could become a problem.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Trent Cull has so many new kids and prospects, I imagine he is still trying to figure them out. If Palmu wasn't playing, then going back to Finland getting top line minutes is probably the next best thing for him, so i don't see it as a negative. If Gadjovich isn't finding his game at the pro level, going back to Junior as over-ager wouldn't be a bad thing either imo. Its easy to spin these things as a negative, but really, they aren't a big deal. He had 7 or 8 new kids, even by the 40 game mark, it would be hard to fully grasp their capabilities/strengths/weaknesses in such a short time frame.
- Codes1087

I'm fine with him going back to Finland. They probably should have sent him back there when he didn't take a regular spot out of training camp.

Pro's and Con's to having Gadjovich and Lind stay in the Ahl this season instead of going back to junior. Won't know which is right until the next season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:39 PM ET
Codes, just stumbled upon this.

https://twitter.com/manny...tatus/1082682823247425536

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
I'd agree with this for sure. The only part that concerns me is that it sounds like it wasn't properly communicated to him what he needed to do better. It may be a red herring but if that is the case with other, higher potential prospects it could become a problem.
- NorthNuck


Trent Cull doesn't speak Dwarf
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
Codes, just stumbled upon this.

https://twitter.com/manny...tatus/1082682823247425536

- manvanfan


im not familiar with WAR or Wins Above Replacement. Just by the sounds of it, seems like a backup goalie stat lol.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
im not familiar with WAR or Wins Above Replacement. Just by the sounds of it, seems like a backup goalie stat lol.
- Codes1087

It's a baseball stat. Supposed to show how valuable 1 player is vs another to their particular team. Basically Pettersson being at the top of the list means he is more valuable individually to the Canucks than any other player in the league is to their team.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:57 PM ET


Let the HATE flow Don and Minivan!!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:59 PM ET


Let the HATE flow Don and Minivan!!

- LordHumungous

This is precisely how I envision Minivan when he is posting. Constantly having a seizure
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 1:59 PM ET
It's a baseball stat. Supposed to show how valuable 1 player is vs another to their particular team. Basically Pettersson being at the top of the list means he is more valuable individually to the Canucks than any other player in the league is to their team.
- NorthNuck


so basically. Pettersson is good, the rest of the team sucks, and he is going to have back problems from all the carrying
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
so basically. Pettersson is good, the rest of the team sucks, and he is going to have back problems from all the carrying
- Codes1087

I doNt think WAR works for hockey. Too many variables unlike baseball which is a more static sport. Also, it must be wrong because the stat would help support Lefty’s beliefs
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 8 @ 2:01 PM ET
so basically. Pettersson is good, the rest of the team sucks, and he is going to have back problems from all the carrying
- Codes1087

Yeah pretty much.

Supposedly WAR isn't fully worked out for hockey though, lots of people don't trust it
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 2:03 PM ET
I doNt think WAR works for hockey. Too many variables unlike baseball which is a more static sport. Also, it must be wrong because the stat would help support Lefty’s beliefs
- CanuckDon


i don't see how this helps his "hotdogs are super healthy" narrative
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