Trades are always a gamble. Eberle isnt doing much, halls teams as usual r at the botton of the league(lack of defensive ability on his part)nothing new there. Barzal was passed over by 5 teams so good on islanders for taking a chance. Larrsson is great defensively but doesnt put up points. Chiarelli and gretzky have never been given credit for drafting kids in rounds 2-5 that r now either ahl or solid junior players, something past oiler GMs couldnt do. Something to consider when evaluating his performance.
- oil90

I would agree if the trades were gambles but at the time they were made, myself and thousands of others said they were bad, outdated moves.

There was another stat someone had where the players the Oilers sign have extremely high PDOs and the players they trade away have low ones, which again, is suggestive of a very outdated hockey dept.

There is no excuse for Chiarelli, he needs to be fired.

I know. I’ve dealt with this putz for too many years now. We made a term for his bullpoop statements and it’s caught on: Tannecdotes.

He makes fun of you for spelling or some inane fact that has nothing to do with the debate when he’s presented with facts against his argument. He then stops replying when he can’t defend himself anymore.

JAMES TANNER IS THE PETER CHIARELLI OF BLOGS.
- RafiDRW

Notice how when I pointed out Nick Foles to counter his "even though the championship of every major sport is decided by who is and isn't injured every single year." statement? Just ignore it and power through. It's actually funny how much the guy rails against Trump and doesn't see the similarities between their personalities and styles.

Peter looked great after Trading Hall because the Oilers media and fans were all over the defense for years and how they didn't have any defensive defensemen and Larsson provided that stability and the Oilers had a 100pt season and won a playoff round while Hall lead NJ to last place...but another year later and Hall wins MVP and the Oilers look like they should have gotten more in that trade which they should, doesn't matter Hall's attitude, he's a top winger in the best league in the world, Peter should have gotten a 1st Rd. pick with Larsson.

Watching Eberle for his years in Edmonton, he was a lazy player who only showed up in the second halves of season when the Oilers were well out of playoff spots. He was overrated because of his world junior showcase, but again, he was a consistent 20 goal scorer and Peter got a lesser player for him and then traded Strome for an even worse player in Spooner.

The Reinhart trade is by far the worst because the Islanders have 2 solid NHL players on their roster that could help the Oilers current lack of scoring, essentially when you look at the completion of that trade right now, Peter traded Jordan Eberle, Mathew Barzal and Anthony Beauvillier for Ryan Spooner.

He should have been fired right after the coach because I find it completely sabotaging your own team for Nicholson to say that Peter can keep his job if the team makes the playoffs, which in turn might forces Peter to make even more dumb decisions just to squeak in and screw up the future of the Oilers roster.

I would agree if the trades were gambles but at the time they were made, myself and thousands of others said they were bad, outdated moves.

There was another stat someone had where the players the Oilers sign have extremely high PDOs and the players they trade away have low ones, which again, is suggestive of a very outdated hockey dept.

There is no excuse for Chiarelli, he needs to be fired.
- James_Tanner

At the time chirelli came in the oilers were being abused in the pacific and i remember thousands saying the oilers need to get bigger and stronger to compete. Now the game has shifted and the players the oilers have drafted the last few years can skate and score.(not including the obvious mcdavid and other first rounders). There were some 5 teams in on the lucic signing for example but again term is the killer not the money. Remember sometimes trades arent always made by the actuall guy named the GM.

"Fact is, in both of the last two years, the Coyotes have suffered from the worst injury luck in the NHL. Starting goalie, #2 and #3 defenseman, virtually every winger they signed this summer, and now Schmaltz."

A team that has consistently acquired injured (retired) players for salary purposes (Datsyuk, Bolland, Hossa) and oft-injured players (Schmaltz, Raanta), and their blogger whines about injuries.

Comedic gold.

I bet Crawford ends up on Arizona and you lament over a multiple cup winning goalie not being able to find the ice.

Well study after study has shown that experience is in fact overrated. Chayka has done a great job and his age is irrelevant. He's made some very astute moves and overall I'd say he's been a good GM. His team uses half the budget that other teams do, and he was coming in to a bad situation, and his team has been extremely injured over the last two years.

What does being self entitled, or a millennial have to do with anything? I'm not the one insulting someone on the internet under a fake name.
- James_Tanner

Seeing as we are who we are as a result of our experiences, and intellectual growth cannot occur in the absence of experiences, how is it over rated? Can you point me to these multiple studies?

It definitely has. Statistical analysis has changed everything from contracts, size of players, which defenseman people target etc etc etc.

Your classic hockey scout is saying sign me a big power forward while analysis reveals that guys who maybe don't look so great under certain perametres help you win hockey games more effectively.
- James_Tanner

I think you have an out dated view of what scouts do. And I welcome evidence or articles backing up that teams have actually fired scouts who watch games in favour of advanced stats guys who analyze. I agree teams are now employing advanced stats guys but they have not fired scouts to do so

injuries do make for excellent excuses when you are pushing an advanced stat model with no success but when you acquire players for their metrics and don’t pay attention to how often they get hurt, what others say about their willingness to play hurt, are if they are just a suck or not. This is on you.

I'll summarize your blog:

"results don't matter"

Tanner when the team with the "best advanced stats" doesn't win the cup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqZ2PPOLik

1. Well study after study has shown that experience is in fact overrated. 2. Chayka has done a great job and his age is irrelevant. 3. He's made some very astute moves and overall I'd say he's been a good GM
- James_Tanner

1. Please provide two studies. If you have indeed study after study showcasing this, please provide two samples
2. His team has yet to get out of the basement after three years. He is the youngest GM in the league and he lacks experience. There is a correlation here that this may be very relevant
3. Subjective opinion. Certainly you may see he’s been very good. If I point out to you that the Los Angeles kings are in fact a very good team, would you not Have some questions about how I got there? For you to point out that a similarly poor performing team is not as good as you say they are, might you not think that perhaps your opinion is somewhat flawed

Tanner, I agree. Chiarelli and the rest of the management team that have advised/allowed him to make those horrendous moves are COMPLETE GARBAGE!


Each of those moves were mind boggling and utterly embarrassing from the second they were announced, and nothing has changed since they were made.

Chayka would be a 100% improvement over Chiarelli (and company...)
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holy cow JT.. i know you cover the Coyotes but gosh darn nobody on here complains more than you do...granted you have good reason to complain since the Coyotes have been trash and will be for the foreseeable future.....that being said, most of the stuff you write just doesn't make (hockey) sense.....please don't quit your day job if you have one and please stop being sooo whiny in your blogs...

Notice how when I pointed out Nick Foles to counter his "even though the championship of every major sport is decided by who is and isn't injured every single year." statement? Just ignore it and power through. It's actually funny how much the guy rails against Trump and doesn't see the similarities between their personalities and styles.
- Takemedrunkimhome

Even if this were the case, no one is making an argument that I should be the President. I'm a hockey blogger which means being a loudmouthed opinionated idiot is actually a qualification.

Even if this were the case, no one is making an argument that I should be the President. I'm a hockey blogger which means being a loudmouthed opinionated idiot is actually a qualification.
- James_Tanner

Isn't that how Trump would answer? Ignore the Nick Foles point that clearly shows your comment to be incorrect and then say something like "I never did that but even if I did do it, it's ok and here is my asinine justification for it"

However when you say "I'm a hockey blogger which means being a loudmouthed opinionated idiot is actually a qualification" I think a lot of people might agree with this but it isn't something most people would say while trying to argue the validity of their opinions

Notice how when I pointed out Nick Foles to counter his "even though the championship of every major sport is decided by who is and isn't injured every single year." statement? Just ignore it and power through. It's actually funny how much the guy rails against Trump and doesn't see the similarities between their personalities and styles.
- Takemedrunkimhome

Earl Morral replacing an injured Bob Greise on the undefeated Miami Dolphin team?

Predetermined bias doesn’t care about your feelings.

Earl Morral replacing an injured Bob Greise on the undefeated Miami Dolphin team?
- scottak

Yeah that defense was fierce. Only points scored on them in the Superbowl were on a pick 6 he tossed if my memory serves me

Word on Hawks blog is Schmaltz out remainder of season.

Nylander is playing poorly. If you've seen him play you will notice that he is often in terrible position and making terrible decisions.

He is generating offense - and the pucks will start going in without a doubt but he is playing poorly for a star player. He should be much better than he currently is.

Even at the top of his game decision making and positioning were never a strength of his.

Isn't that how Trump would answer? Ignore the Nick Foles point that clearly shows your comment to be incorrect and then say something like "I never did that but even if I did do it, it's ok and here is my asinine justification for it"

However when you say "I'm a hockey blogger which means being a loudmouthed opinionated idiot is actually a qualification" I think a lot of people might agree with this but it isn't something most people would say while trying to argue the validity of their opinions
- Takemedrunkimhome

Dude, I was trying to make a pithy remark based on what I thought about what you said. I don't know who Nick Foles is, nor do I remember what you said about him. I can't answer everyone here.

If you're trying to tell me that injuries aren't the deciding factor in who wins in a salary cap league, I don't know what to tell you, you're wrong.

Dude, I was trying to make a pithy remark based on what I thought about what you said. I don't know who Nick Foles is, nor do I remember what you said about him. I can't answer everyone here.

If you're trying to tell me that injuries aren't the deciding factor in who wins in a salary cap league, I don't know what to tell you, you're wrong.
- James_Tanner

Nick Foles is the backup QB for the Super Bowl Champion Eagles in which he won the MVP. I didn't say injuries weren't a factor but I countered your comment that in no pro leagues (the NFL is only about 4 times the size of the NHL) can you win with injuries.

There is nothing more arrogant than direcrly saying somebody is wrong without reason let alone when you are clearly the one who made an ignorant statement (you just admitted to your ignorance on who Nick Foles is) that was easily proven to be wrong. So no...I'm right. You're wrong. I don't feel bad about saying it either after your arrogance. Those are the facts. FYI this is a proper use of facts unlike you did earlier.

If you don't like people calling you out on your ignorance then don't state things that are clearly ignorant. Your act of trying to be the smartest person in the room grows old quickly when time after time you prove otherwise.

Nick Foles is the backup QB for the Super Bowl Champion Eagles in which he won the MVP. I didn't say injuries weren't a factor but I countered your comment that in no pro leagues (the NFL is only about 4 times the size of the NHL) can you win with injuries.

There is nothing more arrogant than direcrly saying somebody is wrong without reason let alone when you are clearly the one who made an ignorant statement (you just admitted to your ignorance on who Nick Foles is) that was easily proven to be wrong. So no...I'm right. You're wrong. I don't feel bad about saying it either after your arrogance. Those are the facts. FYI this is a proper use of facts unlike you did earlier.

If you don't like people calling you out on your ignorance then don't state things that are clearly ignorant. Your act of trying to be the smartest person in the room grows old quickly when time after time you prove otherwise.
- Takemedrunkimhome

You have just provided anecdotal evidence of one single time a team replaced a player and it worked out. That is fine, it could happen again and has happened countless times before.

But the fact is it a very unlikely scenario. Teams with the least man-games lost routinely outperform teams with the most man games lost. This is not only true, but should be obvious to anyone who thinks about it for any length of time.

Sure, no one wants to make excuses, but injuries are a legitimate one.

thanks for proving my point in real time, it's been fun.
- James_Tanner

Please elaborate on how he proved your point.

Your favorite gm is also keeping a terrible coach in tocchet employed. Even traded Strome away because of it. He might be making moves that make sense on paper but whether it's the coach or roster construction that's the problem, the fact remains is that every year you expect them to be better and every year they continue to suck.

Of course they're not the only team, Oilers as you mentioned are an absolute joke. Montreal and Ottawa might only be marginally better. Of course, we can't forget about St Louis either. Everyone thought they got better, myself included, but they actually seemed to have gotten worst.

Underlying stats might point to a good team but at some point after 3-4 years, you do need to start producing tangible results.