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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 10:54 AM ET
I will be interested to see if they try to break Frost in as a wing or a center. If the organization wants to fast track him then I could totally see him as 1LW to Giroux at center. Coots and NOPA slot down.
- juiced


I would like them to start Frost as a winger.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 10:54 AM ET
you would sign him for 6 years? you think all of the older core should be back? its been how many years of mess to average?
- nastyflyergirl

I think we shouldn’t overreact to reports.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
There is little reason to keep Voracek. The game he plays is not something I want the kids to imitate.
- ggunky



This year's version I agree.last years version I disagree.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think we should really be looking at Duchene. Trading for him if thats the only way you think you can get a jump to resign him, or through FA. That will fix the Center issue.

JVR-Duchene-
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-
Laughton
Just fill in the blanks.

- youarewrong


Now you are back to the same issues you had earlier in the year when JvR was playing with Giroux ,depending on who the other winger is, you now have a line that is defensively liable and no pure scorer.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
When absolutely nobody is scoring, I truly get going with G, Coots and a rotatable right wing of TK, Voracek or Simmonds. Understandable. It is not the team winning formula for this roster but can certainly be a jump start. Until a trade can be made to acquire a 1C or 2C, G should be at center.

A “do your best with what you have” won’t make everyone happy though. The roster holes are still there, and we have surplus in some areas and missing role players in others.

And just forget line numbering altogether. Play who plays best or matches up best.

Lindblom - Coots - Voracek
JVR- G - Raffl
Laughton - Patrick - TK
Weise - Varone - Simmonds

- NC Flyers Fan


Nothing about this seasons version of Coots tells me he should be the first line center.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
I think we shouldn’t overreact to reports.
- SuperSchennBros


What has Simmonds shown you the past 2 seasons that warrants a long-term (5+ year), big-money ($6M+ per) extension?

If this was the 13/14, or even 15/16 version of Wayne Simmonds who forechecks hard, hits, fights, wins every 50/50 battle, stirs the pot, can score more than garbage goals, is a semi-effective PK player, and can actually skate with the puck...yeah, I'd consider it. He lost lost almost every one of those traits.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 10:59 AM ET
Nothing about this seasons version of Coots tells me he should be the first line center.
- opeth_pa


I said forget numbering...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
Flyers Twitter account getting roasted after tweeting about a beer Night Out Package!

lol

I feel for the poor intern running that account today.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
What has Simmonds shown you the past 2 seasons that warrants a long-term (5+ year), big-money ($6M+ per) extension?

If this was the 13/14, or even 15/16 version of Wayne Simmonds who forechecks hard, hits, fights, wins every 50/50 battle, stirs the pot, can score more than garbage goals, is a semi-effective PK player, and can actually skate with the puck...yeah, I'd consider it. He lost lost almost every one of those traits.

- jmatchett383



this is where I am and it pains me to feel that way because I have always been a Simmonds fan
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
I said forget numbering...
- NC Flyers Fan


Why is Giroux on the second line?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
It's important to have goals.
- jmatchett383



They are over achievers
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't think they have a Kane, but I think they have a better overall mix. The one thing that Chicago had that the Flyers don't is a solid blue line with two top-pair defensemen. Other than that, I think Hart is better than Niemi, and as long as 2 of their forward prospects pan out along with Myers, I think the team has the potential (potential, no guarantee), in a year or two, to be a contender.
- jmatchett383

I don’t see how we have a better overall mix if they were developing a better blue line.

Kane has become a consistent and elite winger in this league. Toews is one of the best two way centers in the league for most of his career. Duncan Keith a top five defender for most of his career. Seabrook probably could have been a number one anywhere else but chose to stay. Dustin Byfuglien came through that pipeline.

I’ll admit there is a lot of potential within our group but that Hawks team has accomplished a lot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
Why is Giroux on the second line?
- jmatchett383


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
They are over achievers
- wcorvette


Gotta nuke somethin'.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
I firmly believe Simmonds is struggling in part to his injuries from last season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
What has Simmonds shown you the past 2 seasons that warrants a long-term (5+ year), big-money ($6M+ per) extension?

If this was the 13/14, or even 15/16 version of Wayne Simmonds who forechecks hard, hits, fights, wins every 50/50 battle, stirs the pot, can score more than garbage goals, is a semi-effective PK player, and can actually skate with the puck...yeah, I'd consider it. He lost lost almost every one of those traits.

- jmatchett383

I’ll say it again, I don’t think we should overreact to reports.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
Now you are back to the same issues you had earlier in the year when JvR was playing with Giroux ,depending on who the other winger is, you now have a line that is defensively liable and no pure scorer.
- Glak18


To be fair, with the roster we have and holes we have, a good portion of the offense needs to be aided by defenseman shots.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
Flyers Twitter account getting roasted after tweeting about a beer Night Out Package!

lol

I feel for the poor intern running that account today.

- Scoob


Stubhub Has tix $12.73 for Thursday nights game.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
I firmly believe Simmonds is struggling in part to his injuries from last season.
- wcorvette

I think Simmonds had a decent season last year, with injury and some power play time taken from him. 24 goals.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
I don’t see how we have a better overall mix if they were developing a better blue line.

Kane has become a consistent and elite winger in this league. Toews is one of the best two way centers in the league for most of his career. Duncan Keith a top five defender for most of his career. Seabrook probably could have been a number one anywhere else but chose to stay. Dustin Byfuglien came through that pipeline.

I’ll admit there is a lot of potential within our group but that Hawks team has accomplished a lot.

- SuperSchennBros


Yes, Chicago had a better blue line than we have today. If Provy and Ghost bounce back to their norms, Morin can stay healthy, and Myers can play a top-4 role, I think our will be an equivalent.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
Why is Giroux on the second line?
- jmatchett383


Stop it already
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
this is where I am and it pains me to feel that way because I have always been a Simmonds fan
- nastyflyergirl


I feel the same way, Simmonds is a great guy off the ice and does a lot in the community, but its a business and the on-ice product means the most. It's either having a champion caliber team or fanboy loyalty...can't have both. I choose a chance at a Stanley Cup.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
Stubhub Has tix $12.73 for Thursday nights game.
- Just5


Too high
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
I think Simmonds had a decent season last year, with injury and some power play time taken from him. 24 goals.
- SuperSchennBros


Sold to the highest bidder
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
I firmly believe Simmonds is struggling in part to his injuries from last season.
- wcorvette


For sure.
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