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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yes, Chicago had a better blue line than we have today. If Provy and Ghost bounce back to their norms, Morin can stay healthy, and Myers can play a top-4 role, I think our will be an equivalent.
- jmatchett383

I don’t think you understand. The Hawks blue line was so good, they could win without Spectacular goaltending.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
I’ll say it again, I don’t think we should overreact to reports.
- SuperSchennBros


What reports? I'm talking about what I see on a game-by-game basis when I watch him.

Look, I love Simmonds, he's one of my favorites. But his game has just left him and he doesn't do all of the things that I loved about him anymore.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
Simmonds is no longer needed. When you're near the bottom of the league it's time to sell off UFAs with value, and promote your top AHL prospects to see what you have. This is true for every team in the league.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
I don’t think you understand. The Hawks blue line was so good, they could win without Spectacular goaltending.
- SuperSchennBros


And I think the Flyers can (again, CAN, not will) get there too, if Ghost and Provorov can re-find their games and Myers and Morin can both become top-6 regulars.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
I think we shouldn’t overreact to reports.
- SuperSchennBros

Simmonds could be seeking 3 years and I'd still pass. It's time to rebuild this mess.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:10 AM ET
To be fair, with the roster we have and holes we have, a good portion of the offense needs to be aided by defenseman shots.
- NC Flyers Fan


Exactly that has been a major issue where there are not enough quality, keyword quality, shots getting through from the points, but on the flip side other teams know this as well. So other teams clog those opportunities because the Flyers don't have enough players who can score outside of the junk area.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
Exactly that has been a major issue where there are not enough quality, keyword quality, shots getting through from the points, but on the flip side other teams know this as well. So other teams clog those opportunities because the Flyers don't have enough players who can score outside of the junk area.
- Glak18


Anyone more stat savvy than me...I would love to compare number of defensemen shot attempts in games won vs lost.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
There is little reason to keep Voracek. The game he plays is not something I want the kids to imitate.
- ggunky


The reason to keep Voracek is that he can score and is one of the better playmaker in the league
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:14 AM ET
For sure.
- NC Flyers Fan


Why can’t the same be said about JVR who suffered a knee injury this year? Yes he didn’t require surgery but you never know.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:14 AM ET
Simmonds could be seeking 3 years and I'd still pass. It's time to rebuild this mess.
- hereticpride


Yup, time to make room up front for

1996
NAK

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Vorobyev
Kase
Laczynski*
Allison*
Twarynski

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Bunnaman
Rubtsov

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Strome
Cates*
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Lycksell*
JOB*

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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
Simmonds could be seeking 3 years and I'd still pass. It's time to rebuild this mess.
- hereticpride


Yeah I have zero interest in any deal resigning Simmer. His time has come. Collect the assets via trade and move on
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
Flyers Twitter account getting roasted after tweeting about a beer Night Out Package!

lol

I feel for the poor intern running that account today.

- Scoob


Not an intern. Flyers hired a social media manager (Brian Brand, former NJ Devils social media guy) before the season. The ad is a marketing department function, and part of the Flyers brand as a whole. Hockey ops is just one side of the brand. Everyone has a job to do, and obligations to meet. Not marketing department or PR's fault or Community development or Flyers Charities fault if team isn't winning on the ice, and kind of unfair and dense of those who take out frustrations from what's going on in the hockey side to not realize that these functions still go on with their purpose.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
Not an intern. Flyers hired a social media manager (Brian Brand, former NJ Devils social media guy) before the season. The ad is a marketing department function, and part of the Flyers brand as a whole. Hockey ops is just one side of the brand. Everyone has a job to do, and obligations to meet. Not marketing department or PR's fault or Community development or Flyers Charities fault if team isn't winning on the ice, and kind of unfair and dense of those who take out frustrations from what's going on in the hockey side to not realize that these functions still go on with their purpose.
- bmeltzer


I think people are still a bit ticked off about the whole AED donation if they score in OT thing.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
Why can’t the same be said about JVR who suffered a knee injury this year? Yes he didn’t require surgery but you never know.
- arichardson22


He has enough excuses already.

What about Raffl or Weise? If they had an all-star playmaking center that did all the work and fed them pucks for empty net goals they would score more.

#ThinkOfTheOtherGuys
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think people are still a bit ticked off about the whole AED donation if they score in OT thing.
- jmatchett383


Nah it's just Twits being Twits. It's just easier to pull out phone and post a meme.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
Stubhub Has tix $12.73 for Thursday nights game.
- Just5


lol!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
Why can’t the same be said about JVR who suffered a knee injury this year? Yes he didn’t require surgery but you never know.
- arichardson22


It might be.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
Not an intern. Flyers hired a social media manager (Brian Brand, former NJ Devils social media guy) before the season. The ad is a marketing department function, and part of the Flyers brand as a whole. Hockey ops is just one side of the brand. Everyone has a job to do, and obligations to meet. Not marketing department or PR's fault or Community development or Flyers Charities fault if team isn't winning on the ice, and kind of unfair and dense of those who take out frustrations from what's going on in the hockey side to not realize that these functions still go on with their purpose.
- bmeltzer


Oh, I am fully aware of that - that's why I said I feel bad for the [person]* running the account.

*Sorry, just assumed that stuff like that was tweeted out (but not designed/developed) by a low-level employee. Thanks for the info.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
I think people are still a bit ticked off about the whole AED donation if they score in OT thing.
- jmatchett383


Huh? What's that?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
Simmonds is no longer needed. When you're near the bottom of the league it's time to sell off UFAs with value, and promote your top AHL prospects to see what you have. This is true for every team in the league.
- Feanor


This were I'm at with Simmonds. If he was lighting it up and this team was contending, then maybe you do a 5-6 year deal knowing he will probably not be very good in year 4 and beyond ala Scott Hartnell....But the Flyers are not that team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Huh? What's that?
- Scoob


There was some promotion where, if the Flyers scored in OT against Clagary, they would an AED to a local children's hospital.

So, because they failed to score, that hospital did not get its AED.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Simmonds could be seeking 3 years and I'd still pass. It's time to rebuild this mess.
- hereticpride

Well than you’re left with JvR at 6.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
What reports? I'm talking about what I see on a game-by-game basis when I watch him.

Look, I love Simmonds, he's one of my favorites. But his game has just left him and he doesn't do all of the things that I loved about him anymore.

- jmatchett383

Your original posts kept speaking from a term perspective, which is how I responded to you.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
This were I'm at with Simmonds. If he was lighting it up and this team was contending, then maybe you do a 5-6 year deal knowing he will probably not be very good in year 4 and beyond ala Scott Hartnell....But the Flyers are not that team.
- landros 2


I updated my list of forward prospects to order them by birth year, and I came up with 16 guys, ten of which are already signed.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
He has enough excuses already.

What about Raffl or Weise? If they had an all-star playmaking center that did all the work and fed them pucks for empty net goals they would score more.

#ThinkOfTheOtherGuys

- Glak18


Even though he’s had a rough season, I don’t think it’s time to give up on him like most guys have already. Idk if you’re being serious or sarcastic (hard to tell online) but his lack of center is a fair explanation imo. His centers have been Patrick and Weal. Patrick has just been struggling whereas Weal isn’t good. A lot of us expected a 2nd line of JVR-Patrick-Jake and it lacked chemistry in preseason. I know both JVR and Jake have sucked defensively, but maybe this line should be revisited. It doesn’t help JVR that our PP has been hot garbage, even though he excelled in Toronto at scoring ES. But I do wonder if his leg/knee is still somewhat bothering him or hurting his skating.
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