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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
Maybe he’ll be more motivated when he’s playing on a winning team and will play with fire like he used to
- arichardson22

It’s all Simmonds fault.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
Last night he only factored in on every goal but his defense sucks, TRADE HIM. People crack me up on here.
- ClaudeFather


There is two sides to that coin. Voracek is capable of carrying a team offensively. So there is a reason to keep him. The other side is that his play away from the puck can absolutely affect the teams ability to reach the upper echelon. Voracek and other players have to commit to the defensive side of the puck if he is going to stay a Flyer and the team is going to excel.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
http://www.tankathon.com/nhl

Cheer up buttercups
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
There is two sides to that coin. Voracek is capable of carrying a team offensively. So there is a reason to keep him. The other side is that his play away from the puck can absolutely affect the teams ability to reach the upper echelon. Voracek and other players have to commit to the defensive side of the puck if he is going to stay a Flyer and the team is going to excel.
- MJL

Should have hired Trotz.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
Not me, not one single time because I actually remember the exact reason why he was traded. He wasn't traded because he was given up on, he was traded because there was no spot for him with the forwards they currently had at the time. The fact they got a bigger center in Ellison was strictly for depth and there were times he struggled in the lineup. There is no guarantee he would of had the same career if he stayed with the Flyers.
- Glak18

Who were the exact forwards at the time? My memory is oh so foggy on how everything went down.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
While he's not a first round talent like those guys, NAK is also a strong skater, and has a very good wrist shot. Two things the current team could really do with. And yet Fletcher is still sitting on his hands, refusing to call up his best available forward prospect.

It's not hard to imagine Aube-Kubel being a more effective NHL forward than Lindblom. Lindblom's a very smart player and great at winning puck battles, but his skating and shot are average at best.

- Feanor


I've had a much larger sample size but from what I've seen, Aube-Kubel is not as good as Lindblom is. It's really not close.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
http://www.tankathon.com/nhl
- Just5

No lie, simulated once, Flyers top pick!!!!!!
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
Everything is fine. The Flyers have premier offensive and defensive players and their record is not a good indication of how good the team actually is.

There is only one way out of this quagmire and it is within themselves. Every single player has that power within them.

Try really hard and it will come for them. They finished third in a tough metro last season. They can achieve that tremendous level of success again.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
I've had a much larger sample size but from what I've seen, Aube-Kubel is not as good as Lindblom is. It's really not close.
- MJL


Well it is well documented that Feanor knows something Ron Hextall, Chuck Fletcher, Dave Hakstol and Scott Gordon don’t know. I would think Gordon has seen the most of Aube-Kubel.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
You’re only going to see the very best of Simmonds or JvR if they are playing with playmakers, most preferably in the middle.
- SuperSchennBros

I know it only too well.

We need Morgan Frost.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jan 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
There is two sides to that coin. Voracek is capable of carrying a team offensively. So there is a reason to keep him. The other side is that his play away from the puck can absolutely affect the teams ability to reach the upper echelon. Voracek and other players have to commit to the defensive side of the puck if he is going to stay a Flyer and the team is going to excel.
- MJL


Individually at times Jake is like some other players on the team in that he can do some great things. At other times, Jake like all of the players have a bad habit of turning the puck over too easily. I hate those blind no look passes that are intercepted. Constant turnovers on the PP trying to get into the offensive zone. The Flyers lead the league in face-offs, but can't maintain the puck - sad. For that reason I will say that I don't care who is on this team - they all should be on the trading block for the right deal. For dumb turnovers players should see some bench time, but then again if the GM wants to trade someone who is being benched, their trade value would be lessened. Dumpster Fire!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:15 PM ET
While he's not a first round talent like those guys, NAK is also a strong skater, and has a very good wrist shot. Two things the current team could really do with. And yet Fletcher is still sitting on his hands, refusing to call up his best available forward prospect.

It's not hard to imagine Aube-Kubel being a more effective NHL forward than Lindblom. Lindblom's a very smart player and great at winning puck battles, but his skating and shot are average at best.

- Feanor


I agree, there is no reason for NAK not to be up. If they need a roster space, waive and demote Lehtera and Weise can be the guy that comes out of the lineup.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
Everything is fine. The Flyers have premier offensive and defensive players and their record is not a good indication of how good the team actually is.

There is only one way out of this quagmire and it is within themselves. Every single player has that power within them.

Try really hard and it will come for them. They finished third in a tough metro last season. They can achieve that tremendous level of success again.

- StepfordSam


Humm...what is this talking about?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
I've had a much larger sample size but from what I've seen, Aube-Kubel is not as good as Lindblom is. It's really not close.
- MJL



I don't think you can really make that assumption.

One has gotten top 9 ice time with some skilled players. The other was 4th line barely seeing 7 minutes.

I think Aube-kubel could produce just as much or more if he got more top 9 minutes like Lindblom.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
I agree, there is no reason for NAK not to be up. If they need a roster space, waive and demote Lehtera and Weise can be the guy that comes out of the lineup.
- BiggE



Yeah he's come back to earth again.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jan 9 @ 12:18 PM ET
I agree, there is no reason for NAK not to be up. If they need a roster space, waive and demote Lehtera and Weise can be the guy that comes out of the lineup.
- BiggE

I agree too. I must admit now that this season is over for making the playoffs. Let's see what we have in the youth. There is no reason to look anymore at certain vets that we know don't have a future in a Flyers uniform.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
It’s all Simmonds fault.
- SuperSchennBros


Said no one ever.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
I don't think you can really make that assumption.

One has gotten top 9 ice time with some skilled players. The other was 4th line barely seeing 7 minutes.

I think Aube-kubel could produce just as much or more if he got more top 9 minutes like Lindblom.

- J35Bacher


It's not an assumption. Lindblom has played numerous games in the same situation Aube-Kubel was placed in. I know that Lindblom is an NHL player. I still question whether Aube-Kubel is. Lindblom is the better player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
I don't think you can really make that assumption.

One has gotten top 9 ice time with some skilled players. The other was 4th line barely seeing 7 minutes.

I think Aube-kubel could produce just as much or more if he got more top 9 minutes like Lindblom.

- J35Bacher


Exactly. NAK has put up very good ES numbers in LHV and he’s usually solid defensively as well. Put him on a line with Jake, like Lindblom is right now, and I’m pretty sure he’d produce just fine. He’s also built like a fire hydrant and has some snarl in his game which this team could use.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
The Flyers are #1 in the league in goal differential at: -37

Suck it, haters!!!

- ggunky

the announcers keep telling me they are #1 in face-offs too!

the away team announcers love to harp on this fact
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
It's not an assumption. Lindblom has played numerous games in the same situation Aube-Kubel was placed in. I know that Lindblom is an NHL player. I still question whether Aube-Kubel is. Lindblom is the better player.
- MJL


While I do think you are right about this, there are other options to bring up NAK.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
It's not an assumption. Lindblom has played numerous games in the same situation Aube-Kubel was placed in. I know that Lindblom is an NHL player. I still question whether Aube-Kubel is. Lindblom is the better player.
- MJL


Because NAK hasn’t had close of a sample size as Lindblom has in the NHL lol. Not sayin he’s better than Lindblom but we have no idea what NAK is because he legit got 5-7 minutes if that on a 4th line under Hakstol.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jan 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
It's not an assumption. Lindblom has played numerous games in the same situation Aube-Kubel was placed in. I know that Lindblom is an NHL player. I still question whether Aube-Kubel is. Lindblom is the better player.
- MJL

Sometimes I wonder if you are secretly a Pens fan.
I really don't know if your assumption is true. Let's bring NAK up and put him on the 2nd line to see comparables.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
I don't think you can really make that assumption.

One has gotten top 9 ice time with some skilled players. The other was 4th line barely seeing 7 minutes.

I think Aube-kubel could produce just as much or more if he got more top 9 minutes like Lindblom.

- J35Bacher


I’m not sure if there’s anything viable there in NAK. But whatever I’ll give him another shot
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
It's not an assumption. Lindblom has played numerous games in the same situation Aube-Kubel was placed in. I know that Lindblom is an NHL player. I still question whether Aube-Kubel is. Lindblom is the better player.
- MJL


Only way for NAK to prove himself is to be given a chance. He’s played roughly 200 games at the AHL level. No reason not to bring him up at this point, hell, he’d be replacing Weise in the lineup so the bar would be set pretty low, lol.
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