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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 9:47 AM ET
Well thats the thing a 3rd liner on a great team and a 3rd liner on a sheet team are two different things

Remember Roy and Vanek were once 4th liners for us
If the top 6 is great then sure he can be a 3rd liner.

- hubie

max roy vanek was the third line.. not the 4th. we still had mair, goose, pallie, peters, michael ryan etc on the 4th ..
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 9:51 AM ET
max roy vanek was the third line.. not the 4th. we still had mair, goose, pallie, peters, michael ryan etc on the 4th ..
- SabresFaninIndiana


well my memory sucks so i believe you
but still those as 3rd liners same thing as I was saying.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 10 @ 10:00 AM ET
well my memory sucks so i believe you
but still those as 3rd liners same thing as I was saying.

- hubie



I think he meant that his production is good for someone that has been playing 3rd line minutes not that he is going to be a 3rd liner..
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
well my memory sucks so i believe you
but still those as 3rd liners same thing as I was saying.

- hubie

yeah that was a ridiculous 3rd line..
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:10 AM ET
Once again, this should be permanent.
- SABRES 89


f u...



worst uniform EVER...
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
I suppose they could play around with the sizing of those things though

I like the general design
Much, much better than the goat or slug

- jdfitz77


not not as good as the original The original is one of the best sweaters in the league.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
f u...



worst uniform EVER...

- gordong

Nope
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:16 AM ET
Let’s just say we are set next year in the Top6 with something like:
Sheary-Jack-Tage
Skinner-Mitts-Sam

And the 4th line with a combo of:
Larsson, Girgs, Sobotka, E Rod

Wtf do we do with line3?
Especially if we can’t get rid of Okposo
And even moreso if Sobotka is on the line too
Nylander, Smith & Olofsson are all wingers
And none of them make a line that’s 2/3 of Sobotka & Okposo productive

- jdfitz77


can pretty much guarantee that will not be the top 6 next year... botts will make at least one move for the top six in F/a or Via a trade.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:16 AM ET
Thats very Cardinals of them...
awful decision, he is a very very very good baseball player..... he would be a blah qb...

been in this debate a few days on fb.

- hubie

I don't know anything about him, so I wouldn't know.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:17 AM ET
New Cardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury called Josh Rosen "an extremely talented thrower."

A video from last October recently emerged of Kingsbury saying he would take Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray "with the first pick of the draft if I could," an interesting coincidence given his new team's position at the top of the draft. Arizona just used the 10th-overall pick on Rosen, however, and Kingsbury is at least publicly behind the soon-to-be sophomore. That said, this comment will do nothing to stifle trade rumors over the next couple months.
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jan 10 @ 10:17 AM ET
can pretty much guarantee that will not be the top 6 next year... botts will make at least one move for the top six in F/a or Via a trade.
- gordong


I wouldn't hate to see:

Skinner - Eichel - Sam
Mitts - Duchene - Tage
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
Sergei Bobrovsky won't participate in Thursday's game and the explanation given is sure to fuel speculation.

"There are certain expectations and values that we have established for our players that define our culture," said Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen. "An incident occurred in which Sergei failed to meet those expectations and values, so we made the decision that he would not be with the team for tonight's game. This is an internal matter and we will have no further comment at this time." It certainly sounds like the Blue Jackets issued Bobrovsky a team suspension, even if they avoided that terminology. Bobrovsky has been a key figure for the Blue Jackets for years now and has won the Vezina Trophy twice with the franchise. At the same time, he can leave this summer as an unrestricted free agent. It's hard to say anything further without knowing what incident triggered the Blue Jackets' recent decision.

Jackets trying to make themselves look good if they lose him ?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
Lol, except it doesn’t take thousands of times.

And again, this is such a dumb argument. So should the Sabres build there team around players who will prevent “own goals” or have magic powers to prevent deflections?

Or should they build their team around guys who can create shots and chances?

This isn’t an actual question by the way

- sbroads24


Your right, it is a dumb argument, because it creates a false choice. Nobody is saying pick the magic powers of preventing own goals or preventing deflections. And nobody is saying the only other alternative is shooters and "chancers."

IT'S SCORERS.

Build the team around guys who put the puck in the net or guys who keep the other side from putting the puck in the net.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades (and splash pregnancies).
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
If Mitts finishes with 13-15 goals with his most common linemate being the walking corpse of Kyle Okposo, it's a success
- jcragcrumple



100%.... he was never going to get 50-60 points like some on here suggested before the season started... Jack was just able to do that his first year, as much as I think Mitts can be a good player he is not Jack.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
Sergei Bobrovsky won't participate in Thursday's game and the explanation given is sure to fuel speculation.

"There are certain expectations and values that we have established for our players that define our culture," said Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen. "An incident occurred in which Sergei failed to meet those expectations and values, so we made the decision that he would not be with the team for tonight's game. This is an internal matter and we will have no further comment at this time." It certainly sounds like the Blue Jackets issued Bobrovsky a team suspension, even if they avoided that terminology. Bobrovsky has been a key figure for the Blue Jackets for years now and has won the Vezina Trophy twice with the franchise. At the same time, he can leave this summer as an unrestricted free agent. It's hard to say anything further without knowing what incident triggered the Blue Jackets' recent decision.

Jackets trying to make themselves look good if they lose him ?

- SABRES 89

without Bob at the top of his game they are not any good..
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
I wouldn't hate to see:

Skinner - Eichel - Sam
Mitts - Duchene - Tage

- Shadman306


nor would I.... if they want him they are going to have to pay a lot, teams like MTL NEED a center desperately. so It wouldn't surprise me to see them try to get him before the deadline....



jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
without Bob at the top of his game they are not any good..
- SabresFaninIndiana


And they're gonna lose the bread man
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
And they're gonna lose the bread man
- jcragcrumple


Yeah, they would be smart to trade him sooner than later....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 10:42 AM ET
Your right, it is a dumb argument, because it creates a false choice. Nobody is saying pick the magic powers of preventing own goals or preventing deflections. And nobody is saying the only other alternative is shooters and "chancers."

IT'S SCORERS.

Build the team around guys who put the puck in the net or guys who keep the other side from putting the puck in the net.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades (and splash pregnancies).

- Der Kaiser

Right. So how do you put the puck in the net? Who does that consistently?

Can you find me an example of someone who consistently puts the puck in the net who also doesn’t get a good volume of shots and chances?

The point is Tage is doing the process quite well, and has had absolutely 0 fortunate bounces, which as you point out happen frequently.

Problem is if you aren’t creating and shooting you will not get those bounces regularly.

I don’t get the argument. In fact it isn’t even an argument
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
And they're gonna lose the bread man
- jcragcrumple


They're a much worse team than their record indicates.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
#Sabres⁠ ⁠ lines at practice:

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Sheary-Sobotka-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Rodrigues-Larsson-Okposo

Pilut-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Bogosian
Scandella-McCabe
Beaulieu-Hunwick

I’m assuming CJ got sent down, Elie is better suited to watch from upstairs. Game 44 and we are finally getting what I wanted to see game 1 in terms of the Skinner-Eichel-Thompson combo.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
The Jackets should have traded both when it became known that both didn't want to be there. Rid yourself of the distraction and get value for them.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
#Sabres⁠ ⁠ lines at practice:

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Sheary-Sobotka-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Rodrigues-Larsson-Okposo

Pilut-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Bogosian
Scandella-McCabe
Beaulieu-Hunwick

Elie an extra, do not see CJ Smith here

- Pegullaville



If only Mitts and Sobotka were flipped i would be pretty happy.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
#Sabres⁠ ⁠ lines at practice:

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Sheary-Sobotka-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Rodrigues-Larsson-Okposo

Pilut-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Bogosian
Scandella-McCabe
Beaulieu-Hunwick

Elie an extra, do not see CJ Smith here

- Pegullaville

Thank god we still see Okposo there.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
If only Mitts and Sobotka were flipped i would be pretty happy.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Yea I agree. Should have been the lines from day 1.
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