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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:43 AM ET

- LordHumungous

The kid has a bit of a superiority complex. Smug little halfling.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
Seen it a couple times now looks like it went straight in. regardless at over 40' out that puck has to be stopped. Don't blame the dmen for a goalie gaffe.
- LordHumungous

It's funny, if that was Boeser shooting we'd be saying "what a great shot", if it's the other team shooting we're saying "goalie should've had that one"
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
Fixed
- 1970vintage

lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
The kid has a bit of a superiority complex. Smug little halfling.
- Marwood

Everybody is superior to you when it comes to hockey knowledge, you'd think you would just be used to being the dumbest one in the room by now.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
Was listening to SN650 yesterday afternoon. Randip is off recovering from some eye surgery and Isreal Fehr was standing in for him. I swear he must read our threads because he used the word narrarive twice in one segment about the Canucks.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
It's funny, if that was Boeser shooting we'd be saying "what a great shot", if it's the other team shooting we're saying "goalie should've had that one"
- Pacificgem


If Marky was a better 200' goalie Lordy would give him more props.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:54 AM ET
lol
- LordHumungous


It would be interesting to see:

Beagle without Sutter
Sutter without Beagle
With both Beagle and Sutter
Without both Beagle and Sutter
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
Another stat I'd like to see the hockey nerds develop is a measure of dollars per cubic centimetre. To see if being bigger leads to a bigger payday, of if being small is actually an advantage when it comes to salary negotiations.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
It would be interesting to see:

Beagle without Sutter
Sutter without Beagle
With both Beagle and Sutter
Without both Beagle and Sutter

- 1970vintage

Haven't all these been covered so far this season?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 11:58 AM ET
Haven't all these been covered so far this season?
- manvanfan


Yes, each situation has occurred, but I haven't seen anyone post the performance under all 4.

Edit - in my mind it went:

Both healthy - .500, Beagle hurt team winning streak, Sutter hurt team loosing streak, Beagle healthy team winning streak, Sutter healthy .500
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Yes, each situation has occurred, but I haven't seen anyone post the performance under all 4.

Edit - in my mind it went:

Both healthy - .500, Beagle hurt team winning streak, Sutter hurt team loosing streak, Beagle healthy team winning streak, Sutter healthy .500

- 1970vintage

So with, without, with one or with the other the team is .500?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:06 PM ET
So with, without, with one or with the other the team is .500?
- manvanfan


With one or the other, winning streak
With both or none .500 or worse.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:09 PM ET
F I G H T!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:11 PM ET
With one or the other, winning streak
With both or none .500 or worse.

- 1970vintage

So you have your answer
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:11 PM ET
F I G H T!
- VanHockeyGuy

STFU
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:11 PM ET
F I G H T!
- VanHockeyGuy

Cheer practice is going to be feisty.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:11 PM ET


Gabriel Vilardi's career seems to be over.

Tough Tough break for the kid.
Some teams dodged a bullet with their 2017 draft selection
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
STFU
- Pres.cup


G
F
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
So you have your answer
- manvanfan


Hardly scientific.

First 5 games both in the lineup (Beagle injured vs Florida, game #5)
3 wins, 2 losses all in regulation.

Next 8 games, Sutter in the lineup (injured vs Minnesota game #13)
4 wins, 4 losses, 2 of the wins in OT, one in a SO, all the losses in regulation.

Next 16 games, neither in the lineup (Beagle returned Dec 4th vs Nashville)
4 wins, 12 losses, one win in OT, one los in OT and 2 losses in SO.

Next 14 games, Beagle in Sutter out
9 wins, 5 losses, 2 OT wins, 1 OT loss.

Next 3 games since Sutter returned
0 wins, 3 losses, one in OT.

So, with both in the lineup 3 wins, 5 losses
With one or the other 13 wins, 9 losses
With neither in the lineup 4 wins 12 losses
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
Hardly scientific.

First 5 games both in the lineup (Beagle injured vs Florida, game #5)
3 wins, 2 losses all in regulation.

Next 8 games, Sutter in the lineup (injured vs Minnesota game #13)
4 wins, 4 losses, 2 of the wins in OT, one in a SO, all the losses in regulation.

Next 16 games, neither in the lineup (Beagle returned Dec 4th vs Nashville)
4 wins, 12 losses, one win in OT, one los in OT and 2 losses in SO.

Next 14 games, Beagle in Sutter out
9 wins, 5 losses, 2 OT wins, 1 OT loss.

Next 3 games since Sutter returned
0 wins, 3 losses, one in OT.

So, with both in the lineup 3 wins, 5 losses
With one or the other 13 wins, 9 losses
With neither in the lineup 4 wins 12 losses

- 1970vintage

In that case it truely is wasted money on Beagle since we were already paying Sutter, unless you assume that one of them will always be injured, which is a fair assumption.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
Hardly scientific.

First 5 games both in the lineup (Beagle injured vs Florida, game #5)
3 wins, 2 losses all in regulation.

Next 8 games, Sutter in the lineup (injured vs Minnesota game #13)
4 wins, 4 losses, 2 of the wins in OT, one in a SO, all the losses in regulation.

Next 16 games, neither in the lineup (Beagle returned Dec 4th vs Nashville)
4 wins, 12 losses, one win in OT, one los in OT and 2 losses in SO.

Next 14 games, Beagle in Sutter out
9 wins, 5 losses, 2 OT wins, 1 OT loss.

Next 3 games since Sutter returned
0 wins, 3 losses, one in OT.

So, with both in the lineup 3 wins, 5 losses
With one or the other 13 wins, 9 losses
With neither in the lineup 4 wins 12 losses

- 1970vintage

Only one variable missing is the games that EP was injuried.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
If Marky was a better 200' goalie Lordy would give him more props.
- 1970vintage

lol I would.

Was just funny around here after Dec when Marky had the same numbers as Carey Price many had him 'turning the corner' lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Hardly scientific.

First 5 games both in the lineup (Beagle injured vs Florida, game #5)
3 wins, 2 losses all in regulation.

Next 8 games, Sutter in the lineup (injured vs Minnesota game #13)
4 wins, 4 losses, 2 of the wins in OT, one in a SO, all the losses in regulation.

Next 16 games, neither in the lineup (Beagle returned Dec 4th vs Nashville)
4 wins, 12 losses, one win in OT, one los in OT and 2 losses in SO.

Next 14 games, Beagle in Sutter out
9 wins, 5 losses, 2 OT wins, 1 OT loss.

Next 3 games since Sutter returned
0 wins, 3 losses, one in OT.

So, with both in the lineup 3 wins, 5 losses
With one or the other 13 wins, 9 losses
With neither in the lineup 4 wins 12 losses

- 1970vintage





Go Vintsy go!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
Another stat I'd like to see the hockey nerds develop is a measure of dollars per cubic centimetre. To see if being bigger leads to a bigger payday, of if being small is actually an advantage when it comes to salary negotiations.
- 1970vintage

The average height and weight of the top 10 scorers right now are
6'0''
191

Close to the league averages, though scorers tend to weigh slightly under the avg weight.

It would be interesting to see stats on it but it'd be tough to account for monsters like Chara or tiny guys like Gaudreau who both have lots of value
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
lol I would.

Was just funny around here after Dec when Marky had the same numbers as Carey Price many had him 'turning the corner' lol

- LordHumungous

He has "turned the corner" by this time last season he would have let the first shot in at least 15 times. This year it's probably less than 5 times it's happened.

What is Markstrom supposed to do when the defence in front of him, helps (talking about Gudbranson) the other team score on him?
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